You think Herschel is a liar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wachenroder
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You think Herschel is a liar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wachenroder
YES! this is what i've been complaining about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wachenroder
the guys finger is right on the trigger guard!
while i get they are trying to make carl all cold and dark, that is a lazy way to write that scene. the kid should have raised his arms and dropped the gun. then carl should have shot him in cold blood. thats how you convey that message in that scene.
I think the writing is a mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
They did leave it a bit ambiguous. I think that it was written this way intentionally so that we would hear "two sides to the same story".Quote:
Originally Posted by cdamm
On one hand, it looks like the kid could have pulled the trigger on Carl at any second, and on the other he looked scared shitless, not calculating like a killer.
If they made it clearer in either direction the story would have to follow that direction. But they want it to walk that fine line. Probably for the entire next season.
I won't even give Season 4 a chance to reclaim some decent writing, the finale was THAT bad. :oh_no:Quote:
Originally Posted by F4U57
But the rest of the season was great. Did we really need the Governor to die in the finale? I am glad he is still alive. One of the more interesting characters on the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschool
I'd take Merle over him anyday tho
I watched all the episodes but haven't read any of the comics. I'm still not understanding why everyone seems to hate the season finale?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschool
Andrea died..I liked that..I didn't really see her reintegrating back into the group anyways. Her death wasn't anything spectacular but that's okay.
Merle died. I'm surprisingly disappointed by this. I didn't really like him in the prison as a fan of the show, but now that he's gone I guess I felt more of an attachment to him as a character than I thought.
Governor comes out a complete psycho and he's basically on his own now and the prison is safe. Rick goes from ruthless tyrant at the start of the season to free love hippie commune Rick at the end..Carl is annoying and killed someone..Didn't bother me.
Michone feels out of place..I'd rather they kill her off.
Granted, there's no big cliffhanger to the next season but I don't mind it really. I thought the finale was fine. Not great but not bad either.
That ain't happening, that's one of Kirkman's top pet charactersQuote:
Originally Posted by MegaGraffin
After waiting for the right time to watch the last two episodes, that was just a disappointing piece of crap.
CDamm nails it, they should have shot that scene in a different manner, with the guy dropping the gun nearly immediately, pausing on Carl's face, and then having him shoot. The way it was presented, yes we get the implication that Carl did it on purpose but it was not shot well enough to indicate that he is turning into a younger version of Shane.
The scenes with Andrea attempting her escape made us shout at the TV about a half dozen times. She kept pausing and talking, while still cognisant that Milton would be turning into a walker. He even had to REMIND her to hurry up. A pitiful way to part with this pitiful version of the character. Nothing like the strong and sane female lead that was the rock of the prison battle in the original story.
When you're having to shout WTF at the screen more than once or twice an episode, the show is not written well. Neither my gf nor I have ever had a WTF moment in Mad Men, Breaking Bad, or Game of Thrones. Well, with GoT there was the beheading episode, but that was more of a shock rather than an angry "WTF are you doing, you idiot?"
I reread The Calm Before and Made to Suffer for yet another time a few weeks back. I keep wanting to reread this story just as much as Watchmen. I rewatch episodes of Breaking Bad and GoT based on their entertainment value alone. Yet when I tried to pull out my Walking Dead Season 2 BR set, I looked at it and sighed, imagining how many hours I would have to suffer through to make it to the finale. While Season 3 was a great improvement, it has no payoff in the end. It just leaves me with a sense of frustration and a realization that this show will never be as rewatchable or entertaining as some of its top drama competitors.
It was definitely shot very, very poorly. In fact, it's almost kind of confusing the way Herschel and Rick throw Carl under the bus for what he did. I don't really draw the parallels between him and Shane, either, because Shane had many reasons to hate Rick, and challenge his decision-making, regardless.
Again, if the show was wanting us to make all these connections...it failed miserably.
Andrea definitely has a promising future as a victim in B- horror flicks.
Past too, if you count The Mist. And even that is far more rewatchable than TWD.Quote:
Originally Posted by brentsg
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Originally Posted by SonGohan
All you faggots are the reason why Carl needs to be shot dead early into the next season.
The mistake all you Carl lovers are making is thinking that Carl is your son. No. Your son is not Carl. Carl needs to die.
are you saying my son doesn't deserve to die?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
burn them all !
Your son didn't shoot no one in the face with a silenced handgun. He's cool in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Carl grows a set of balls and starts blasting mother fuckers at point blank range, and you want him killed? He's the O.G. that T-Dog and Tyrese wish they could be. Kid shot his own mom in the fucking face when characters like Andrea struggle to kill a one-eyed sleeping man. That cast wishes they were half the man Carl is. I wouldn't be surprised if he started calling the shots in the group, now that Herschel and Rick's periods have synced up and they're too busy lactating over poor decision-making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
Did you cry when Shane died?Quote:
Originally Posted by SonGohan
I never cry when people are killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
That kid didn't have much of a role in this show but I feel like we'll see more of him down the road on account of his looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wachenroder
Has a bit of a young elvis thing going on.
Badass right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonGohan
Uh, I don't see the resemblance, other than they both have dark hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoon
he probably won a role on the show by competing in the online games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tung Fu ru
http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/upl...isPresley.jpegQuote:
Originally Posted by Tung Fu ru
Bah...
Spoiler:
If Rick replied with that to Carl on the show during that bus scene, everyone would be praising the Finale right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by F4U57
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^ lol ^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...=jR4lLJu_-wE#!
Much better written than the S03 finale.
season 4 trailer is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSi2fJALDyQ
thoughts???
Love this show, can't wait for season 4.
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Originally Posted by lantus360
Looks like an amazing show I have haven't watched before.
Great trailer..
It's looking crisp. Hopefully the new show runner knows what he's doing.
After the anti-climactic Season 3 ending, the unnecessary killing of Andrea, and the canning of the original show runners, I'm going to be cautiously optimistic about Season 4.
I'll watch the first 3-4 episodes, then decide to either stick with it or just quit.
Well, that was really a pathetic season debut.
I fell asleep I was so bored.
I was thinking the same thing. Glad I could throw this shit out and start watching another series. :oh_no:Quote:
Originally Posted by F4U57
yeah the premiere was terrible. it's like they just don't care & know people will watch it anyway because it's the walking dead.
even the comic book has been disappointing lately dragging on the whole 'negan' thing.
what a shame
Last Sunday's episode - I had no clue that it was going to go that direction. I'm back in. I am ready for the ride. The show did what I didn't think it was interested in doing.
Spoiler:
The show has already proved to be an alternate universe from the comics. In a butterfly effect kind of way, this shouldn't really surprise anyone. But it still surprised me.
Yeah that was a good episode. I kept waiting for them to fuck it up and cut to the prison but nope.
I enjoy prisons as much as the next person, but they really need to move on(which looks like it may not happen until the end of this season). Last sundays' episode was by far the best this season. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the show shifting away from Rick & Co and focusing around ol' Gov'na instead.
all thru last ep I was thinking snake every time the governor was on until he shaved!
this past episode was very refreshing and I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season now. If any of you don't watch talking dead after the show, I highly recommend it.
I can't stand Hardwick's hosting style for this material (although I liked him on Web Soup and when he guested on AOTS). I much prefer Kurt Sutter's approach with his Sons of Anarchy after-show on the web. Then again, he's the show runner and not just a paid talking parrot, so you're always going to get more fascinating discussion that way. I am happy Hardwick ahs fuond a good gig following the demise of G4, which had been bad for a long time anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by cannonball
As for this season, I've found myself really enjoying it. It's still not the best show I've ever seen, and I still prefer the comic, but I have really enjoyed the story, the narrative elements and the pacing. Some thing it's slow, but I'm digging it.
I don't know that I needed an entire episode on the Governor, and I'd disagree that they redeemed him (being reborn is not the same as paying for your crimes), but I am very curious to see where they go with it and will watch it to see how it plays out.
I personally would welcome a drastically different difection from the comic here. Rather than there being a massive gunfight at the prison gate, it'd be neat to see the Governor's rebirth as a metaphor for humanity emerging in a hopeless world. It's a common theme of the best zombie stories, and rarely do we see it told from this point fo view.
Normally, the antagonists of these types of stories just spiral further and further into madness, and it's up to the protagonists to choose humanity over survival. So it's interesting that the spiritual reformation of a villain is another form of expressnig this narrative device.
My guess: The Governor dies doing something good to help the three girls survive, and probably join Rick's group before it's all said and done.
Wonder if we'll ever see Carol again, or if getting rid of the actress was a symbolic 'wiping the slate clean' of all of Darabont's choices for secondary cast. They're all gone now except for Rick and Carl.
I like this version of Michonne a lot more than the one in the comic, too.
How the fuck does the governor box the shit out of two zombies with his bare hands and rip one of their heads in half and not get infected with a cut or something?
Everyone is already infected.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonGohan
My guess is that the Governor is still a sadistic bastard that's going to get that little girl killed. Also, isn't he the one feeding those infected rats to the walkers?
Regardless, I do like this version of the Governor They've made him creepier as he gains the trust of others while the comic version made him out to be a complete, one dimensional bastard.
I was wondering how they would play Rick's hand injury into the show and liked how it occurred. The show really feels like an alternate universe to the comic.
Season 4 is shaping up to be the best one yet.
Now, was Rick as one dimensional in the comics as he is in the show, because that's the way I have felt about him for the past 2 seasons. He needs all too much prodding to actaully take action and usually by doing so, it leads to some other set of poor choices, in decent part to his inaction. Though I guess I sound like Carl now saying that...Quote:
Originally Posted by OMFG
Rick is awesome this season. He's a very complex character. Just because he isn't picking up his gun at any given moment and making decisions doesn't mean he's one dimensional.
In fact, I'd argue that if he WERE to just be 'the decision making guy', that would be more one dimensional.
Why does he have to be one of those two extremes? The current Rick is an emotional mess, an ineffectual leader until pushed way to the end. He's shown flashes of brilliance as a character and was interesting without always running and gunning all the time. Now though, he's just avoiding everything until he can't.
Hey, there's zombies on the wall and they're getting pretty thick. Sould we maybe do more than put up some door stops? Oh hey look, peapods!
Hey uh, you gotta tell Daryl you kicked his Activia spokewoman out of the camp. But first... *Fred Schneider voice* You better fix butterbeans!
I get what they are doing with the character, it's just more frustrating than interesting, when we've seen prior flashes of brilliance.