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I kind of liked the beginning with the sign "Emily, we made for Stone Mountain". Good reminder of what people might do in a Zombie Apocalypse when all communication breaks down.
Though, it would have been cool if they went to Stone Mountain and found Jake the Snake.
He would cut the most amazing promos on Rick and company.
And then when Merle starts hitting on his wife, they'll have a grand feud.
they really need to spice things up in this show. like an entire episode of rick(dressed like a girl) sitting in hershel's lap(while hershel is wearing a bear costume-or similar) and the entire time rick just cries while hershel sits there motionless & occasionally smiles
Show's been painful to watch lately. They need to do something with dumb as hell Andrea.
I really enjoyed the last episode.
I get scavenge / raid was exactly what needed to happen. And I'm glad to see Michonne finally being accepted. She is a freakin' ninja!
He will befriend Rick, then lead him into a tomb where he gets bit by a snake. Then repourpose the Scorpion/Frog fable into a Snake/Rabbit. Never trust a snake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
loved the build up in last nights episode. Even after the meeting between Rick and the Governor, Rick thinks that the group can get off easy if they just give the Michonne and walk away. The exchanges between Herschel and Milton, and Darryl and Martinez showed the mirror between the groups. Martinez could have been a fan favorite if he got this attention early on in the season. I get the idea he will be killed off in the next to episodes though, when the groups wage war. Milton and Martinez are good people, who have been strayed so far from the path by the Governor's charisma and leadership. I thought the best part of the episode was when the Governor spoke about working for a manager half his age and intelligence, and his wife dying without him knowing what she wanted to talk to him about. It seemed so manipulative.
I don't want to see Merle die. Michael Rooker is the best actor on the show next to David Morrissey.
i just look forward to this gov'na b.s. being over with and on to negan next season
I've heard others say they thought this week's episode was far too boring without much action but I found it really tense and showed great dynamics between the two groups. I really do hope they do not drag it out another episode though, what's said has been said, there should be no more procrastinating - time to have it out.
Agreed, he owns every scene he's in. I had to laugh when he turned to Michonne and said, "you go all Shogun on the Governer".Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
And while it's not going to happen, I could care less if Andrea's character gets killed off. At first I felt they needed her because she is such an asset, fight-wise, but who cares now they've got the Black Ninja!
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Originally Posted by F4U57
They should have just gone and cast Pam Grier as Michonne.
Better, double up and cast Fred Williamson as Tyrese.
someone needs to to put andrea out of my misery. i had enough of that bitch.
I wish they would make a sequel to "I'm gonna git you, sucka"Quote:
Originally Posted by F4U57
Fixed it for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
If Rick were like this in every episode, I'd have no issue with how they're handling the character.
LOVED the scene with him and Herschel at the end.
I am also glad he saw through the Governor's bullshit, and I completely understand why the character had to leave out the part about trading Michonne. If Rick tells them about the Governor's proposal, then half the group (if not more) would be happy to send her off, and after what she's done for the group that would not be fair. Also, where does it stop? What if somebody else pisses off the Governor? Do they give that person up next? Then one at a time, the Governor whittles them away. It's no different from a straight surrender. There is no 'agreement' between them because you can't hold the Governor to his end of the bargain. Rick saw through it all and I am so glad he found his brain.
Andrea's in a tough spot right now. After all the times the Governor's frozen her out of knowledge and meetings, she should clearly be able to see the writing on the wall. But for Andrea, it's not so simple. It's not like she really spent all that much time with Rick's crew. She spent more time with Michonne than she did with any of them, given the passage of time between seasons two and three. Also, in her head, Woodbury represents the best return to civilization. Electricity, hot water, community, jobs, order and structure. It would be hard to walk away from it a second time just to live with nice people out in the sticks. Some people just don't want to go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle after getting away from it.
I got no problems with Andrea as a character right now. She's well written for the most part.
I am afraid that Merle is going to be this show's version of Sawyer from LOST. He'll become really popular and they'll start overexposing him. Shows need to realize that less is more with characters like this. Let him be the guy making all the noise and bringing all the fire. That's his role. Let him stick with it. In fact, I'd almost rather they killed him before they ruin him.
And please, please, please. No Negan just yet. Going from one ruthless warlord to another would just be redundant. I'm more looking forward to the prison battle and the aftermath. The entire next season should focus on the aftermath of the prison battle, IMO.
Next season could lead into Neagan, but only tease the coming conflict.
There is plenty of shit that happens (or could happen) on the road.
I think for the show's health, they should put more than one season between the Governor and Negan. Otherwise, people will be drawing too many parallels.
It was nearly fifty issues in the comic before Negan started threatening the group's stability and security, and even after four+ years, people were saying 'It's Governor Part II!'
If the show is smart, they'll wait a long time before we ever see Negan, and I think they need to spend a few seasons of the characters truly evolving and surviving and finding ways to find their own security and stability. You need to build them up and make them feel a little safe before tearing it all down all over again.
I think the comic took TOO long to threaten the characters again after the prison battle, but at the same time I appreciate seeing the characters figure the world out and find a way to grow and get stronger in this new existence. So for me, there was good and bad in the build up to Negan.
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Yeah, thew will probably hit the road, have beth go missing and blow 6 episodes trying to find her. All until they have to fire the head creative.
But seriously, they have already poached a bunch of stuff (esp dialog) from the later comics.
Worst was when they took a speech of Rick's at Alexandria, and gave it to Andrea at Woodbury.
Poaching from the comic's not really a big deal. They don't HAVE to do everything in the same order or through the same characters.
But I still think bringing in Negan in the next two years is just going to feel like a retread of Woodbury so close to it. The Governer arc's been all right, but they need to change it up and give us another side of this world and how the characters react to it once this prison business is done.
I'm hoping they spend some time on Carl having to take care of Rick on the road. I really liked those issues. That was, for me, when Carl truly became a character in the comic. In the show, I like Carl a lot but there needs to be more picture hunting type scenarios that showcase the character's layers. The stone faced badassery is okay with me, but he really only becomes a character when he's driven to do things, rather than just existing. I'd love to see Carl and Rick isolated from everyone else for a while so that they can focus on the relationship more. It's sorely needed, and is likely Rick's path back to complete redemption after the end of season two.
im just glad the new 2013 hyundais are out. they are going to need the extra options and horsepower for the upcoming battle.
And all that roomy cabin space along with an unbeatable 100,000 mile warranty, I'm sure there are some great leasing/financing options available at your local Hyundai dealership.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdamm
Not saying that it is a big deal. Just that they are burning through the source material a bit quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
I also didn't like that they took some of Comic Book Rick's better lines and wasted on stupid ass TV Andrea.
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Originally Posted by Taiso
\I hope a pair of twins (or young siblings) show up and they run the angle where Carl Blows one away.
That I want to see Tyrese's "Sister" and the geeky white guy run the suicide pact angle from the comic. That would be choice television.
think we wouldn't notice a rim swap !?
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OK I hope im not spoiling anything but something in the latest episode just struck me as wrong. There was an interaction between Merle and Carol where Merle said she had changed and wasnt as weak as she was at the camp. Now correct me if im wrong but I dont ever remember Merle meeting her UNTIL he came to the prison. So what gives?
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Originally Posted by O. Yashiro
Merle was part of the camp. He just happened to be one of the group that went into the city for supplies(and ended up getting "stuck" on the roof).
the show is turning into Lost.
Episode felt like filler to me. The important part between Daryl and Merle near the end didn't need an entire hour to quantify it.
I thought a lot of the dialogue was good in the episode. Stuff like "Do you know why you do the things you do?", and Merle's exchange with Michonne. This was the most Michonne has spoken since she showed up. She's already got more lines than TDogg. The other thing I enjoyed was a lot of Beth, and no Carl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
You know, I thought I noticed that... But then thought nothing of it. Guess they goofed in the editing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
I liked last nights episode.
And, no it's NOT turning into Lost.
I really wish that Talking Dead show didn't exist though. If a show like twin peaks didn't need a talk show, then The Walking Dead definitely doesn't either.
Yeah, I brought up the point that David Lynch made in his book on mediation and creativity, where he says a film should stand on its own and not need someone to explain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tung Fu ru
Yeah, I brought up the point that David Lynch made in his book on mediation and creativity, where he says a film should stand on its own and not need someone to explain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tung Fu ru
you're right its not. I was just pissed that Michael Rooker is off the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tung Fu ru
They where the shows main draw, it was laready "what's Daryl going to do next" to "I love the Dixon Bros show"Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Wouldn't surprise me if now you don't hear a lot of how the show has gone downhill since they killed Meryl
Yeah the Merle and Michonne interactions were some of the best in the series so far. Norman Reedus sold his reaction at the end damn well too. A big step up from last weeks episode. I just hope my suspicions aren't true that they're gonna kill Daryl and replace him with Tyreese as Ricks #1. This show has a bad habit of telegraphing who is going to die next in some pretty obvious ways. I mean the way they seem to be setting everything up, it just seems like it has to happen that way. Especially now that Daryl will most likely have a beef with Rick and inevitably a vendetta against the Governor. I think Beth, Carol and Hershel are probably gonna get it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
Pretty glum about Michael Rooker getting snuffed, but he definitely went out in style!
Plus he was getting drunk while listening to Motorhead.
Merle fuckin' ruled!
He really did. Stole every scene he was in.Quote:
Originally Posted by F4U57
I was hoping he wouldnt get killed off until next season at the earliest.
I can't really argue with this because it's probably what is going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trey Burnout
Daryl attached himself to the audience because of his growth and his ability to survive. Audiences like capable characters, and they like seeing characters grow and become stronger.
Merle found favor with audiences because Michael Rooker chews scenery like nobody's business and knows how to own the camera. You didn't LIKE Merle (racist, drug addict, thug, brute), but you always wanted to see what he was going to do next.
Audiences don't like characters that piss and moan about their broken marriages and then spend three episodes being crazy and unreliable.
The anemic/poor way in which they handle some characters while they focus on others is one of the things I find so frustrating about this show. It's good at times and not so good at others.
Here is the one thing the episode did right in my opinion:
Zombie Merle.
Not because I wanted him to be a zombie. But because that footage of him at the end is the perfect metaphor for post apocalyptic zombie fiction, and more importantly exactly what Rick and co. are supposed to keep themselves from becoming ('the walking dead'), which creates the emotional momentum for the show: people trying to retain their humanity in a world of anarchy.
Merle barely looks any different as a zombie. Even his facial expression is essentially the same-a dumb beast surviving on instinct. And the way he preys on others to survive is exacly what makes Romero's best stories and the comic so much more compelling.
And there is so much Daryl wanted to tell him at the end there. You know it. Not just about acting without Rick's approval, but about the bigger issue of their relationship and all the complexities there. And when Daryl finishes him off, he's not just taking his frustrations out on Merle, but he's also saving him from that gruesome fate at the same time. If it was just a mercy killing, one blow would have been enough. The complete pulverization of his face has a lot of meanings there for Daryl, both good and bad. And Daryl isn't just mad at Merle for all of it ending like this, he's also mad at hmself for 'not being a better brother', mad about the futility of his efforts to protect and save him, mad at Merle for wasting those efforts, mad at the world for forcing this to be the only way out for both of them, mad at Rick for proposing the plan, mad at hmiself for going along with it...there are so many things expressed in that final scene.
when it was clear they were going to kill off merle that episode (as soon as he took off with michonne), my first thought was 'it would be awesome if the governor kept zombie merle to unleash during the assault on the prison' . it would have been an awesome psychological weapon. it could have completely disabled daryl and probably some others if/when they have a final showdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
the other thing i took from that episode was that most of the towns survivors are not good for an assault. i remember the governor saying they had like 70 survivors. with the few they added (the ones that left the prison) and the few that have since died that number is probably still pretty accurate. merle killed 3 of their combat veterans. thats close to 5% of the towns population. mix in the lack of combat experience that the rest of the town has compared to the ricks group and that does spell the end for the governor when he makes his assault. they have made a point out of saying how most of the governors people cannot shoot.
Dude, that is fucking twisted and would have been totally awesome. I'd love to see Daryl have to deal with that in the middle of a firefight.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdamm
On the other hand, how they handled it was pretty cool too, because it allowed the character moment for Daryl to emerge.
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what happens with Woodbury if nobody ever comes back from the prison attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdamm
If the TV show follows the comic:
Spoiler:
i could totally be a staff writer for the show, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
agree on the timing of 'crazy rick' stuff whole heartedly.Quote:
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what happens with Woodbury if nobody ever comes back from the prison attack.
If the TV show follows the comic:
Spoiler:
Openings are frequent for that series.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdamm
We should both put in resumes as a package deal.
"We have this idea. Rick + Carl, Daryl, Michonne and Tyrese end up on an island..."
You should turn that into a video game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
The Walking Dead Island.
It could have a really douchey picture of Rick pointing his gun.
Because that isn't overused at all.
EDIT: Gamestop Exclusive-T-Dawg.
You wouldn't even have to record any extra dialogue for him.
thats how its done, man. :lolz: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Really loving this season. So many people are bitching about filler, but I'm loving all of it, especially the dialog. The meeting between Rick and the governor was great to watch. I think the great thing about the show is that it almost gives you the feeling that zombies aren't a problem anymore --until they are. Sometimes you find yourself saying, "oh yeah, those things are dangerous."
And a big WTF to people thinking Rick needs to die.
My grandpa kinda looked like Merle when he was younger =(
So for that reason I found the character endearing....and this last episode leaves me sadder than the time Carols kid came out of the barn...but it wasn't nearly as jarring or uncomfortable since Merle kind of went out on his own terms.
Agreed, thought it was a very well done episode overall. Looking forward to this Sunday, lots of possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
Big weekend coming up with the walking dead and game of thrones. Taiso might not survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry.330
Tell my ma I done my best.
sadly no Spartacus until the following week. :crying:
strong belwas hungry!
Did you see Manu Bennet is on Arrow?
I haven't watched the show, but a woman I work with says that the character he plays taught Green Arrow how to fight.
Almost makes me want to tune in, because Bennet is awesome.