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They'll never be in the Rock Band series of games.
Zep is one of my all-time favorites. I'm far too young to have seen them live or anything, but I know they put on amazing shows, having heard many of them recorded in both audio and video formats. I have a ton of downloaded bootlegs. The Knebworth shows near the end of their run are some of my favorites. Does anyone else have a favorite live show?
Favorite album is The Houses of the Holy for me, which places me in the minority, because most people favor II or IV (Zoso), which I also love. It's hard to pick a favorite song, and I have rotating favorites, but my current favorite is Thank You from Led Zeppelin II.
Get the Led out!
My favorite album is probably the first one. I have the complete studio works + How the West Was Won on a DVD that's generally in my laptop. It makes for a good listen when I'm stuck alone at work.
I turn off Stairway to Heaven when It comes on the radio. :crying: It's like Nirvana - Smells like Teen Spirit. I've heard them so many times that they do nothing for me. It pisses me off that it's the only Zeppelin song that gets radio play.
The best Zeppelin song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbQ0Cb6h3Ew
I just got in a bunch of bootleg Led Zeppelin concert recordings yesterday...really great stuff.
The guy even threw in the DVD of the May 24th, 1975 Earl's Court show which was incredible to watch. No Quarter is godly on that show. They did Black Dog as the encore on there...really cool stuff.
I love how their overall sound was different from show to show, but it still always sounded amazing.
I have no problem with Stairway to Heaven especially if you listen to all the different ways they performed it, it's not even the same song entirely with the improvisation done. I prefer the live versions of it more because the Gibson EDS-1275 sounds phenomenal to me.
Kashmir is probably their best song period.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
I begin to do that with a lot of the more popular Zep songs. It's bound to happen when you listen to a type of Greatest Hits album over and over :envy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
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Originally Posted by genjiglove
When the Levee Breaks is my personal favourite. (Kashmir is Robert Plant's favourite, though.)Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
I remember reading or hearing that Zep themselves wanted to tout Kashmir (which I agree is an incredible song) to try to get everyone off the Stairway bandwagon.
I still think to this day that they haven't gotten away from Stairway being the most popular, if not widely regarded as their best, song.
Honestly I rotate favorites because they have such diversity in their own work. My current favorite is
Trampled Underfoot
I think Kashmir does so much in terms of different sounds that it is a masterpiece of a song.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Nugent
Plus you get a great demonstration of Robert Plant's range as a singer.
Too bad he had to turn into a faggot and started with the country music shit that he does now.
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Originally Posted by The_Chosen_One
This is how I feel as well.
Currently Black Dog is my favorite.
Do you collect/trade these? I used to for years before I came here...I have a lot of audio, but mostly video on disks that fill an entire box. I used to have a list that I kept up to date, I wonder if I can find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
For anyone who is a fan of Zep and never heard their live stuff definitely check out the movie The Song Remains the Same, Dazed and Confused, No Quarter, The Song Remain The Same and the rain song are amazing
my brother's Zep community.
http://www.royal-orleans.com/
the guy has every bootleg ever made.
Good stuff! That place is the cream of the crop...wish I remembered my login...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSneth
Top 5 Zep List:
Trampled Under Foot
The Wanton Song
The Ocean
Good Times Bad Times
Ramble On
Wow, good list man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opethian
Just shoot me a PM if you can't get a new login. the site creator and admin is seriously my brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdd1510
1)KnebworthQuote:
Originally Posted by jdd1510
2)The Witch Queen
3)Chasing The dragon
4)Destroyer
5)Definitive Flying Circus
6)Bringing The House Down
are among my top favorites throughout my collections.At the end of Achilles Last Stand on bringing down the house theres something prophetical.This is the band of ages!
These days Physical Graffiti is my personal favorite Zeppelin album.
woah did we all turn back into 16 year olds or what
(when the levee breaks is indeed their best)
Heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneSage
I haven't listened to Zeppelin in a very long time.
I used to smoke out to this
16 year olds?Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneSage
I never got this that people seem to think you must be 16 to like Led Zeppelin nowadays.
I know people who have been listening to their music for almost 40 years and are as big of a fan of them as they were in 1968/1969. The fact that a band can be still be adored by millions 3 decades after they broke up speaks to the power of their music to span across generations.
Yeah not everyone likes them...whatever.
Their music is still better than a massive volume of what comes out nowadays.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tee...arting-to,199/Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
My favorite Onion article, because it hits the mark so sweet.
And for the record I love Zepp. Pretty sure I made a LZ thread here when I 'discovered' them.
I'd rather see people talk about discovering Led Zeppelin than talking about how they discovered shit like Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga. Yeah I know there are Lady Gaga fans here, but I can't fucking stand her personally...listened to her stuff didn't see what the big deal was. I'd like to see Kerry King smash her in the head with a fucking guitar.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneSage
I don't know man, like Zeppelin I find fascinating because they had so many dimensions to their music. Their studio albums are one thing, their live performances I find to be even better than the studio stuff because of a lot of the improvisation they did live as well as when they would stretch stuff out in songs. Check out the live performances of Dazed and Confused that run to 25 or 30 minutes to see what I'm talking about.
I love Zepplin.
There is a great tribute band here that the singer pulls off Plant very convincingly.
I love I-IV with a passion. Give me some Misty Mountain Hop and When the Levy Breaks!
+1000000000000000000000 :buttrock:Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
I didn't really get into Led Zeppelin until I was 20 around 2001-2002. I was amazed at how ahead of their time the music was. Songs like, A Whole Lotta Love, Immigrant Song, Time of Dying, Stairway to Heaven, etc... just blew my ass away.
I went crazy buying up all the shit I could find, even the BBC sessions with like 10 versions of Dazed and Confused. I did get kinda burned out of that song though.
I highly recommend the 2003 DVD with what I think is West and East Mitten Buttes on the front cover. Here: http://www.amazon.com/Led-Zeppelin-R...7242514&sr=1-1 The live version of Immigrant Song on this sounds fucking amazing. The recording quality and just the way they play sounds as if it could have just came out in the past 10 years. If you don't have it, definitely get it.
Honda of the holy....i fuckin love it
As "good" as they were, they borrowed a lot and stole a lot. They stole the riff of "Stairway to Heaven" from a band that opened for them, "Spirit".
Don't believe me?
http://www.dogmaticblog.com/mp3/led_zep3.mp3
Many other sources besides the one above and they blatantly stole songs word for word!!!
A list of some of the songs Zep stole from other artists:
* "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
* "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
* "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
* "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
* "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
* "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
* "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
* "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
* "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
* "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
* "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
* "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
* "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
* "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
* "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
* "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."
That being said John Bonham is brilliant and as a drummer he has massive influence and his right foot is the Envy of all drummers. The rest of the band as far as I am concerned stole.
Plant could never hit the notes live either. He changed the song to skip the notes he was supposed to sing or threw it to the crowd.
I can't listen to the band, I just can't it aggravates me too much
If you want classic originality listen to Black Sabbath, please, so much original and heavy.
Not the first nor will it be the last.if you listen to today's music you will find the same. Musicians usually do these type of things.Sabbath only had 4 good albums 1-4 then comes Born Again enter Ian Gillan.Tha bidness1!!
Only 4? Guns and Roses ONLY had 3 Good albums, 2 if you count the double album as 1. Sabbath rules but I am not big on the later stuff in the 80's, only the late 60's and 70's stuff. Heaven and Hell is great but I don't think of it as Sabbath, it is more Dio then Sabbath. I haven't even listened to the Ian Gillian stuff so I can't even comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordG_9
As far as originality no one has more original rifs than Iommi. Led Zeppelin simply took songs and called them their own.
ah yes, the mobb rulz!!1.i'm not slamming anything that sabbath did their my top 5 eva!...yo check out born again i'm pretty sure u'll like it,maybe...cheers1
God shut the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Bogard 1
You talk like this is all NEW information.
Who cares already. Everyone knows this and no one fucking cares, the band is still massively popular.
Christ if you think Zep was the only band ripping and borrowing shit in that time period you're clueless.
Plant couldn't hit notes in concert?
lol
He could.
The problem was his voice started getting worse as time went by due to the cigarettes and lack of proper vocal warmups before shows.
not only that it took 3 or 4 songs to get his voice going.his raw vocals alone could get my dick hard.no one today in the music business can do that.thank you Plant!
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Originally Posted by DangerousK
This isn't new but they are thieves and stole originality like it was their own. Who did Sabbath steal from? Rhythm and Blues? Maybe. Zep stole, word for word, note for note, and LIED. Fuck that
Play me a song where it sounds like on the Album.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
I'm afraid no one sounds like they do on album.If so their not doing it right?
So dramatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Bogard 1
Please, look at yourself.
Drama queen.
OMG THEM STEALING NOTES MY LIFE IS MASSIVELY IMPACTED!!
lol
They did everything better than those who did it before.
Do you cry about Apple taking what existed and doing it better than whoever tried the same thing before them? Somehow I highly doubt it.
BTW, you left off When the Levees Break.
Did Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, or JPJ refuse to sign an autograph for you once?Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Bogard 1
lol
Even raging alcoholic Ozzy Osbourne could pull it off note for note.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordG_9
Example? Over the Mountain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Auyr2aBtY Studio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS78Q1T8xa4 Live 1982, peak of Drug Use and Alcohol.
Show me a back to back Robert Plant performance. And yes I realize Ozzy had effects on his voice, re-verb, just an echo so it sounds like 2 Ozzys singing, still hits all the notes. Plant just sang lower, couldn't hit them.
Dramatic? Is it OK to steal, note for note, word for word, make millions, and not give credit where credit is due? As music fan this is all I am saying, you are arguing that stealing is OK and the end justifies the mean. This is wrong and cannot be argued. Since you lack any verbal footing to defend your case you resort to name calling and caps lock yelling. Apple didn't take a a computer from "IBM", scratch off "IBM", and place an Apple logo there; Zeppelin did. They took songs word for word, note for note, can't be argued. Apple designed it's own proprietary operating system. Zeppelin did a copy and paste job, you can't be serious. You lose, you get nothing, good day sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
The BEST argument you can come up with is Led Zeppelin was the best cover band of all time, that would be acceptable.
FWIW I would rather visit Bonham's grave, such a great drummer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
that was kind of a neat post. until you recommended black sabbath
Ozzy's voice is meh
vocal range: Plant>Ozzy
Drama queen alertQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry Bogard 1
Look I get you don't like Led Zeppelin.
But to come into this topic because you want to regurgitate things that are old and pointless now is just epic stupidity on your part. It sounds like one of the surviving members offended you personally somehow because the only one dead seems to garner such praise from you which is rather fascinating.
I bet you went to an Outrider show, stood backstage holding your guitar thinking Jimmy Page would give you some tips about how to become a rock superstar. Instead he walked past you making you a bitter, feeble shell of a human being who dedicated himself to screaming how much he hates Led Zeppelin.
Zep did what they did better than anyone else and in spite of some of the songs being copied, they redefined rock music. To downplay how good they were is just sad.
Every time someone copies and pastes the exact same "borrowed Zep songs" list and complains that they are not original, I just shake my head. For every "copied" riff or hook, they are 8 amazing completely original songs that kick major ass. The fact that they borrow musical elements isn't even a bad thing, musicians do that shit all the time. They are the best rock band ever for their style, flair, live performances, and of course their songwriting ability. Whether they borrowed an element or not, it's what they did with it that made them amazing.
Also, Terry Bogard, get the fuck out of this thread
Right on the nose.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneSage
Never been much of a fan of Led Zeppelin myself, but one can never deny the impact they've had on rock music and that they do have some tunes in their catalog that are pretty damn good.