is to get rid of red lights in your console.
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In before this thread cops a one way greyhound ticket to Detroit.
GROD sounds better anyway.
Kneel before Grod!
The red dot of death looks like HAL.
That's fucking creepy.
Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.
It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.
The green is more fitting. It matches the money you're pissing away from buying one to begin with.
Obviously the first couple generations of 360s broke a lot, but you're saying (glibly, but still) that everyone has to go through a lot of hassle all the time on behalf of their Xboxes. That just ain't the case man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
It's not like 360s are the only things that break with heavy use. I'm not defending it, but since repairs are free, it's not that much hassle to put up with.
Besides, this new model probably won't be plagued with the same problems. At least, it better not be... If it is, I'll change my tune in a hurry and agree with you. ;)
Don't worry, it can't red ring, but rest assured you'll still be able to know when your console dies!
How reassuring. It'll be interesting to see what the failure rates of the Slim are in comparison to the current Falcon and Jasper models, or whether it's more of the same in a new shell. I can't buy one without knowing beforehand.
The whole glossy/ipod thing puts me off a bit, though. I constantly have my PS3 (fat 60gb model) covered with a towel to prevent scratches/dust/fingerprints. I'll never understand why companies think this looks attractive.
this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
I kind of want one as I've always hated the amount of noise the original makes, but I resent forking out again for the console they should've sold me 3 years ago.
5 of my friends have bought a 360, none of them still has the same model because they all broke down sooner or later (the 360s, not my friends...). While I agree with you that stuff eventually breaks with heavy use, the frequency is way too high to be normal in this case, and there are tons of examples for 360s that stopped working out of the blue after only a few weeks of normal use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Nugent
IMO, the reason why MS seem unable to fix that shit once and for all are several inherent design flaws that make the system as a whole quite unpredictable. For every hole that gets plugged, another one seems to open.
Ah well, let's see how the new revision turns out, getting rid of red leds alone won't cut it, that's for sure...
More so fact than just your opinion. It's a poorly designed system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
But I really think MS has licked the overheating for the most part with recent revisions. It would really boggle the mind if MS didn't learn something from flipping the bill for fixing so many consoles over the past years.
I've been fairly lucky. I had one of the first 360s and that's the only one that has ever RROD'd on me and that wasn't until recently.
Probably cause the games are pretty damn good, the console gets replaced under warranty, and getting your content onto a new device/hd takes all of a few minutes. I don't think they should be applauded for shitty hardware either, but the system has proven to many that it is definitely worth the annoyance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
you complain about how it looks so you cover it with a towel which both makes it look different and protects how it looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elixir
what? do you suffer from some kind of ocd? its a videogame console. its not rare, its not special, its not the only one. no one is going to stop being your friend because your ps3 is dusty.
It's called taking care of your purchases.Quote:
Originally Posted by not sonic
I agree wholeheartedly. Just the other day I shipped out my fourth dead system to have it repaired. Honestly, if I weren't still under warranty, I wouldn't even bother getting it repaired at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
It's gotten to the point where outside of exclusive titles, I'll be picking up all of my multi-platform releases on the PS3, regardless of if they're slightly inferior or not, just so that I know that five years down the road if I feel like playing a game from this generation I'll actually be able to.
Everyone I know IRL who had an Xbox 360 for longer than two months had to replace their unit at least once.
A working Xbox 360 will be a damn rare piece of kit in 10 or 20 years. But you will most likely still be playing your Neo by then!
Yep, that's what really blows my mind about this generation of consoles. In my basement game room I have dozens of 20+ year old consoles that work as well as they did the day I got them, yet I'm waiting to get my fifth 360 in five years time. I have no doubt that ten years from now those same, decades-old consoles I play daily in my game room will work like a charm, but my 360 library will only be worth a damn through emulation at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by alphagamer
lol
edit: 360
I had shirt(-in-a-can)'s 360 for about a year and a half on loan until I finally got my own about a year ago now. His was a launch unit, and sounded like a jet engine droning away in the room, but never gave a hint of a problem. It saw heavy use during the year and a half I had it, and had to live with his younger siblings before that and endure their torture. The unit still works fine, to the best of my knowledge, but he doesn't use it much. My year old 360 is still chugging along, granted it is the latest hardware revision. I know that some revs were definitely more prone to problems than others. None of my friends, save for one, has had any issues with his 360. I know at least a dozen people with 360s... like know them, not chatter with them online... and all of the units have lived healthy and productive lives. The problem is real, I don't doubt that, but I think it's horribly exaggerated in scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by alphagamer
I'd say it's accurate based on personal experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by nruva
I've personally sent mine in twice.
Known plenty of others who have sent there's in just as much, if not more than me.
Everyone I've know has had their issues fixed for free.
So it's a minor inconvenience at worst.
It's a terrible system yet awesome at the same time.
If it wasn't for the 360 I'd consider this generation a total bust.
I used to think this too, until I realized that the majority of the games I've played on the 360 are either 1) ported to PS3 or 2) too niche to have developers slugging through Sony's devkit.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9999
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Originally Posted by K9999
As much as I dislike Microsoft, you have to give them that.
When the UPS Store guys say they see no fewer than two consoles a week get shipped through their location, that's pretty telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by nruva
Lies.I own 2 and had no problems(yet)One is actually brandnew but the other had a whole lot of gametime and still works just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by alphagamer
Look, this is my point (and this is for all the whiners and crybabies — Tak, I consider you to be neither of these :)): yes, the 360 breaks a lot. But whining incessantly about it is just as annoying as it breaking in the first place.
Baseless. The UPS store guys huh? Where? Who? What location? Are these friends of yours or some close acquaintance? I guess I can pop into the one down the street and ask, but I'd sound like a loon... I'm not sure how you strike up that conversation (or whether or not I'd believe it even if I heard the workers there say it). They're influenced by the same exaggerations that I claim existed in my first post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
Again, I don't doubt there is a higher level of failure rate than normal, but I also can't tell you how many times I've been in a Best Buy and seen a dead PS3 sitting on display along with a handful of 360s. These systems all break down. Wii's fry themselves, burn out their GPU and etc. Sony's die in a similar red-light death. Why doesn't anyone say shit about that? The more complex the system the more likely it is to break down. That doesn't get Microsoft off the hook, but these claims of "every xbox 360 older than two months is going to die," is just ludicrous.
~lolanecdotalevidenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
I have a hard time believing that soo many people have had systems fail like this...I own a first gen xbox 360, it has never failed and never had a problem with it. The people I play with,and work with all are in the same boat...out of 15 people 1 ring of death had happened...to be honest on a CD based PC reconstruction...thats pretty good odds.....we arent talking about a NEO GEO or anything here :mr_t:
Broad River Road location, Columbia, SC. I can look up the street # if you want. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by nruva
The employee who was assisting me saw the box and asked if it had RRODed on me. The other employees commented that they saw at least one or two per week.Quote:
I'm not sure how you strike up that conversation
Because the issue isn't so widespread that the companies have had to offer a broad-spectrum warranty extension to account for it. I've never claimed it's happened to every machine. But I'd also be lying if I said I haven't personally observed it in over ten separate machines, not including my own. My first was broken out of the box and had to be replaced. The replacement RRODed and had to be repaired. I personally know at least fifteen individuals who've dealt with it. Sure, it's all anecdotal, but it's simply far too common to discount as pure exaggeration.Quote:
Wii's fry themselves, burn out their GPU and etc. Sony's die in a similar red-light death. Why doesn't anyone say shit about that?
Haha. "You weren't trying to play any games, were you Dave?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nEHm0Zctui...s400/grodd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted Nugent
All this talk of RRoD hasn't really been relevant for almost 2 years now. If you walk into a store today and buy a new 360, it's very unlikely that it'll fail on you. If you own one of the pre-Jasper 360's and are so worried about the RRoD that the long-ass warrranty isn't enough for you, just sell it and buy one of the newer ones. Get over it already, sheesh.
Deuce is right about the PS3,my buddy has a 60gb launch model with the bc for ps2.When we started playing Midnight club L.A.,the screen would start stottering(or whatever you call it)within 15 minutes due to heat problems.
We put an extra fan on it and the problem was gone.There were more games that had this problem.
Fan of: crappy running games.
Fan on: Games work great.
I know of one guy who seriously got 3 PS3's replaced in 2 years but have to admit he is the only one I know with such big problems.
It's a fact that they both had issues but because there were 10x the amount of 360's sold compared to PS3,it's pretty obvious that the 360 is heard more of when it comes to failure.
I want to get a new one, I'm just wary about spending several hundred dollars on a system after my original model (purchased approximately 5 months after launch) suffered catastrophic failure after less than 150 hours (a third which was spent on XBLA games) of play time over a four year time span.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hentai Sama
You didn't play that very much at all, did you? Maybe it was sad that you never played it and committed suicide :( It is a big US system, after all... It has abandonment and body image issues built in. 150 hours over four years... what is that... like 6 mins a day average?Quote:
Originally Posted by T.A.P.
Jaspers are good, should be a lot quieter and hopefully last you a lot longer... but hey... everyone's mileage seems to vary. I am not too sold on the newest "slim" models yet. For a system notorious for air-flow problems, the last thing I'd do is make the case smaller. Time shall tell all, I guess.
But the internal components are smaller as well, and generate less heat. There's also the new side vent leading directly to the CPU/GPU. I don't know if you've seen the pics of the new 360 dissected, but one other noticeable improvement is that the DVD drive no longer sits directly on top of the CPU/GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by nruva
The new 360 seems like a major improvement in just about every way, from a technical standpoint. But as you say, time shall tell.
I think my 360 is a Falcon. I got it for Christmas in 2008 but I know its not a Jasper. It's been pretty good so far, but I always install games before playing them too. And if it does mess up on me, I have a warranty on it so I can just take it back to the store and get another one. Which is helpful in this case because I guess I'd get a new model.
Just checked the elite I have and it is definately a Jasper,wich is good,right?
I'm just wary of buying a Jasper/Falcon based on what other people have mentioned (specifically that the design was inherently flawed and that the newer revisions simply put band-aids on it), and seeing how badly I was burned last time I bought a new system from them, I feel inclined to wait to see how this one turns out.Quote:
Originally Posted by nruva
Which really sucks, because now I would actually have time to play the damn thing.
Really? I have to retract my statement then. Or make it German peer exclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratson
To all my German friends: buy your Xbox 360 in the Netherlands, Dutch Xboxes are less likely to break down :-)
This is going to sound strange but im maybe one of the only people glad that the red ring of dead exists.
I brought a really cheap second hand nicotine stained jet engine sounding xbox 360 because at the time thats all i could afford. The store gave me a 12 month guarantee on it and it red ringed. Took it back for replacment they had no old or second hand units so they gave me a brand new shiny hdmi ported xbox 360 in exchange for the broken one with no cost or moaning.
The new Xbox 360 did red ring itself about a year latter but it got repaired for free and i got xbox live time as compensation the only down side was a 360 less week. It came back and has worked fine ever since...
My 360 gets used all the time though when im not on it my daughters playing kung fu panda on it or my wifes playing mass effect 1 or 2 and its used as the houses main dvd player on the front room tv and hdd player
Heh, someone got it. I forgot a 'D' though. :emb:Quote:
Originally Posted by SPINMASTER X
:lolz: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/0...breaking-down/ :lolz:
Don't think the video is "real" but I just found this amusing. It's pretty unlikely that the slim consoles will have too many problems but it's possible someone purposely did something to their new system for publicity? Anyway, I guess watch out for the green dot of death...
http://papawheelie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/loon.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by nruva
;)
I never bought a 360. I can only see why you would still bother with the system if you are still getting it fixed for free.
Then again I only have a Wii that hasn't been on in 3 months, maybe it's broken...
Well, two out of the thousands sold so far seems like a pretty good start (assuming those two incidents weren't due to user error or done on purpose for attention).Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkSweets
i have an original revision (xenon) from nov 06 and its fine.
When will Sankaku stop stealing news material and stop with the fucking stupid headlines? 360 slims aren't breaking down, it's just a few reports. It's happened with every console far, but I'm not surprised given how much the original 360 did.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkSweets
Just to keep things fair & balanced!
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-ne...-side-with-ps3