Please tell me no one here had the misfortune of paying to see Transformers RotFlmao.

So I finally caved in this morning and watched about 75% of a torrent that was partially subtitled in Spanish. Chalk it up to morbid trainwreck-style curiosity on top of impatiently wanting to scrutinize two specific exterior scenes shot in West Philly. I was an extra for those takes that were shot on the campus of Drexel University on June 17th & 18th of last year.

If said scenes were coherently edited(wishful thinking, I know) or framed in such a way that I could freezeframe 'em than maybe I wouldn't mind wasting another 60+ minutes to locate my bystander self...

Based on what I saw earlier today and my tenuous impressions, could I could sum up the film in one line of its dialogue? Sure.

"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."

How long will people continue to express surprised dismay at the Transformers movies turning out to be exactly what it was obvious to everyone they were always going to be? How long?

ZOMG, I just realized no one had every mentioned this movie in the MOVIE OPINION thread!

[Read as "don't blame us" :smirk:]

I finally saw the first one a couple of months back on cable and I cannot understand why anyone would like the film.

I can only imagine that the sequel would be just as bad.

Also, how can anyone stand that Shia LaDouche and that crusty Megan Fox?

Apparently all the straight boys think Miss Fox is a hottie, even though she looks as rancid as that Amy Winehouse lass (maybe that's the appeal).

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I finally saw the first one a couple of months back on cable and I cannot understand why anyone would like the film.

I can only imagine that the sequel would be just as bad.

Also, how can anyone stand that Shia LaDouche and that crusty Megan Fox?

Apparently all the straight boys think Miss Fox is a hottie, even though she looks as rancid as that Amy Winehouse lass (maybe that's the appeal).

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don't compare her to amy winehouse.
I'd take her anyday over megan fox.

I saw the first one in the theater and the only saving grace was Prime's original voice acting. As for this one, I'll wait until it comes out on cable.

This movie's got the appeal of X3. That's how much I don't want to see it.

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ZOMG, I just realized no one had every mentioned this movie in the MOVIE OPINION thread!

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Shouldn't be necessary, any more than with the Steve Martin Pink Panther movies, or with the Broderick Inspector Gadget movie.

The first Transformers movie was fucking awful. I won't make that mistake again.

I like the idea of live-action cartoon characters that are way creepier than their animated counterparts, though, so I kind of hope the Trannys' overwhelming financial success will result in more films in this vein

Yeah, I saw it. Much much worse than the first (which was, if bad, at least harmless). It was very busy. Plot elements and emerged and vanished constantly without being established or resolved.

So what you guys are saying, is that it is true to the original cartoon?

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So what you guys are saying, is that it is true to the original cartoon?

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I brought up something like this when the first movie came out. When the brand is already diluted between well over ten cartoon series (I forget just how many, but it's an insane number) and comics, etc., including series that are clearly derivative of pokemon, what exactly is being tarnished? If you don't like the movie, fine, but Transformers has no integrity to begin with.

That said, Optimus Prime is the Christ of 80s cartoons.

P.S. Oh, yeah, and those cg cartoons where they were all furries.

When I was at SFA I took a few writing classes from Joe Lansdale (Bubba Ho-Tep), and he talked about going to see a Minstrel show when he was a boy. He said that the black janitor on duty laughed the hardest out of anyone attending the show. He described the experience as "heartbreaking."

Watching a group of black patrons laugh at the antics of Mudflap and Skids, I think I understand how he felt.

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Watching a group of black patrons laugh at the antics of Mudflap and Skids, I think I understand how he felt.

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LOL, it actually took me a second to realize you weren't talking about an old time Amos & Andy style pairing. Where's Spike Lee? I think we can get a greenlight for Bamboozled II: Return of Delacroix (only this time he's a cyborg).

I don't understand all the hate about the Transformers movie.

Sure, it's far from being oscar material... but it has some fun parts and seeing the robots in action is awesome.

Transformers movies > Transformers cartoons

The cartoon episodes are basically 25-minute toy ads.

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Transformers movies > Transformers cartoons

The cartoon episodes are basically 25-minute toy ads.

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As opposed to a 2 hour commercial for USAF, General Motors, AND toys? Oh yeah, much better. Way more integrity. :rolleyes:

The only cool thing about Transformers are the toys.

Wicked awesome toys.

Everything else can be ignored.

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I don't understand all the hate about the Transformers movie.

Sure, it's far from being oscar material... but it has some fun parts and seeing the robots in action is awesome.

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I never got to see them in action. I just saw the screen shake a lot.

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As opposed to a 2 hour commercial for USAF, General Motors, AND toys? Oh yeah, much better. Way more integrity. :rolleyes:

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:lolz:

I guess you got me there. But you have to admit there's a better story behind the first movie at least vs. the cartoons (I haven't seen Transformers 2 yet).

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I guess you got me there. But you have to admit there's a better story behind the first movie at least vs. the cartoons (I haven't seen Transformers 2 yet).

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Uh, no I don't. What are you smoking? Better than the worst episodes? Sure. Okay. The quality varied wildly depending on a particular episode's writer. But better than the best episodes? No chance.

And here's another thing I want to say to all the people who keep repeating the mantra, "It was just a 30 minute toy commercial, it was just a 30 minute toy commercial": Having cool toys as a kid is not a bad thing. Having a fucking entertaining as hell show that revolves around your cool toys as a kid is not a bad thing.

I was a little kid in the era just before the law got changed -- back when you COULDN'T have merchandise and toys that tied into kids' cartoons. And let me tell you something, you snobby motherfuckers: IT SUCKED. Being able to tie cartoons into toy lines like with GI Joe, Transformers, and what have you, SAVED the moribund -- and frankly, freaking slit-your-own-wrists-boring -- American animation industry.

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Uh, no I don't. What are you smoking? Better than the worst episodes? Sure. Okay. The quality varied wildly depending on a particular episode's writer. But better than the best episodes? No chance.

And here's another thing I want to say to all the people who keep repeating the mantra, "It was just a 30 minute toy commercial, it was just a 30 minute toy commercial": Having cool toys as a kid is not a bad thing. Having a fucking entertaining as hell show that revolves around your cool toys as a kid is not a bad thing.

I was a little kid in the era just before the law got changed -- back when you COULDN'T have merchandise and toys that tied into kids' cartoons. And let me tell you something, you snobby motherfuckers: IT SUCKED. Being able to tie cartoons into toy lines like with GI Joe, Transformers, and what have you, SAVED the moribund -- and frankly, freaking slit-your-own-wrists-boring -- American animation industry.

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Fuck I agree man these young cats don't know the coolness of toys we had transformers gi joe he man ,thundercats ,mask ,visionaries, cops,bionic 6 ,he man and silverhawks etc. This era of toys for the youth can't compare man

I liked the first one, had a couple of cheezy lines, but overall it flowed well, was great visually and had a few comedy aspects to it. Hell at the end of the movie, everybody in the theater clapped, I can certainly say that the people who liked the first one out weight the people who did not like it by a rather large margin.

The second one blew ass though, had high hopes for it too. Was pretty pissed that I spent 10 bucks to see it.

Went and saw the second one when it came out. The wife loved it but she never grew up watching the cartoons. All I can say is that the best part of the entire movie was when Optimus got stabbed and died. :-)

Other than that, it was a polished turd.

GAMEFAN

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I was an extra for those takes that were shot on the campus of Drexel University on June 17th & 18th of last year.
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I still haven't seen it but am curious to check it out on DVD at some point as I watched them film a few scenes in center city late at night coming back from work. They spent a few nights over 2 weeks I think it was shooting around 13th and Walnut. Does somewhat take the magic out of the movie seeing how incredibly boring a shoot is though.

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When I was at SFA I took a few writing classes from Joe Lansdale (Bubba Ho-Tep), and he talked about going to see a Minstrel show when he was a boy. He said that the black janitor on duty laughed the hardest out of anyone attending the show. He described the experience as "heartbreaking."

Watching a group of black patrons laugh at the antics of Mudflap and Skids, I think I understand how he felt.

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Hey, That's how I feel when I saw people doing the Chicken Noodle Soup Dance.

I can't believe you guys forgot the whole purpose of this movie...

IT WAS MEANT TO SELL TOYS!!!

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I can't believe you guys forgot the whole purpose of this movie...

IT WAS MEANT TO SELL TOYS!!!

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Stop making excuses for this garbage.

The next mother fucker that says this or "It was a summer action poppycorn flick, what DO YOU EXPECT!!!" needs to get hit in the fucking jaw with a sack of wrenches.

Why the fuck do you idiots eat this shit up and pretend it tastes good?

People are expecting Saving Private Ryan...instead they get GI Joe.

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Stop making excuses for this garbage.

The next mother fucker that says this or "It was a summer action poppycorn flick, what DO YOU EXPECT!!!" needs to get hit in the fucking jaw with a sack of wrenches.

Why the fuck do you idiots eat this shit up and pretend it tastes good?

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QFT

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Stop making excuses for this garbage.

The next mother fucker that says this or "It was a summer action poppycorn flick, what DO YOU EXPECT!!!" needs to get hit in the fucking jaw with a sack of wrenches.

Why the fuck do you idiots eat this shit up and pretend it tastes good?

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absolutely QFT

Movies like T2 and the Dark Knight prove it doesn't have to be that way.

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absolutely QFT

Movies like T2 and the Dark Knight prove it doesn't have to be that way.

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Exactly.

I can give you a list of many MANY now classic movies that were "summer action movies"

Nobody will be watching these two films in 10 years. How many people do you know that still hold things like Armageddon and Godzilla in high regard and watch regularly?

Nobody.

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The next mother fucker that says this or "It was a summer action poppycorn flick, what DO YOU EXPECT!!!" needs to get hit in the fucking jaw with a sack of wrenches.

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Can't wait to see who that will be.


@dullboy: Don't badmouth GI Joe.

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Can't wait to see who that will be.


@dullboy: Don't badmouth GI Joe.

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telling someone not to do something is like telling someone to do something.
i kind of want to see it because of all the bad remarks now.

I liked the cop car out of the first movie. Other than that I really don't care for it too much.

The problem is I know these are going to be lame, but I don't really know until I see them. So I want to see them and hope that I'm wrong then I see them and waste my cash. I've pretty much quit going to the movies. I maybe see like one movie a year now. I've not seen one this year as of yet.

I can't stand that ladoofus guy either. I just don't like watching him so that does nto help me out any. When it comes out on video I'll grab it on netflix and have a look.

Odd I can't think of any movie in a long time I wanted to go see after seeing the trailer. The teasers make me interested and then I see the trailer with the whole plot spilled out and every action scene and then why bother seeing it after that. I would rather watch those bunny 30 second movies. Same effect with better acting usually

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so you're expecting GI Joe the movie to be a very serious non-popcorn movie?

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so you're expecting GI Joe the movie to be a very serious non-popcorn movie?

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No, I'm expecting the movie to be a calamity of Biblical proportions. I'm saying don't badmouth the property in general, not the movie specifically. The movie will be garbage. Obviously.

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No, I'm expecting the movie to be a calamity of Biblical proportions. I'm saying don't badmouth the property in general, not the movie specifically. The movie will be garbage. Obviously.

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i'm not bashing the property in general. all i'm saying is that people seem to be wanting a deeply profound and moving FILM, when they are watching a live action version of a CARTOON. so don't go in to watch Gi Joe in August and expect Private Ryan.

What exactly are people looking for in a live-action Transformers movie that could possibly make them happy? i have yet to hear anybody actually state what it is they are expecting ("a good movie with a decent plot/acting" is a seriously vague answer).

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absolutely QFT

Movies like T2 and the Dark Knight prove it doesn't have to be that way.

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Dark Night and Terminator franchises weren't built around selling toys to pre-teens.

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Dark Night and Terminator franchises weren't built around selling toys to pre-teens.

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The utter lack of toys for both movies really proves your point.

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The utter lack of toys for both movies really proves your point.

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hey.
what are you trying to do,
one up norton?

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Dark Night and Terminator franchises weren't built around selling toys to pre-teens.

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Not Terminator, maybe, but Dark Knight definitely is built around continuing to move Batman merchandise, which is where WB makes its money off the IP. Properties like Superman and Batman make WB millions in sales of T-shirts, toys, pajamas, and whatever else annually, whether there is a movie out at the moment or not. Things like Batman cartoon shows and comic books are produced to keep that brand name alive and keep selling that merchandise.

Also, if you're watching a Batman movie, and he changes his outfit midway through the movie...or starts using a new vehicle for no real reason...or the Batmobile gets damaged/destroyed and he builds a new version midway through the movie... Guess why that happens?

(Answer: toys)

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Not Terminator, maybe, but Dark Knight definitely is built around continuing to move Batman merchandise, which is where WB makes its money off the IP. Properties like Superman and Batman make WB millions in sales of T-shirts, toys, pajamas, and whatever else annually, whether there is a movie out at the moment or not. Things like Batman cartoon shows and comic books are produced to keep that brand name alive and keep selling that merchandise.

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Yeas, I understand all that... And that they did all sorts of Terminator Happy meals and shit.

But at least the source material of the batman graphic novel is built around something other than blind commercialism.

But the Transformers shit... Trying to make a silk purse out of a Sow's ear.

Come on norton.

The T2 action figures were awesome.

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Come on norton.

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To tell you the truth... I think it's all crap... T2 especially had some real cheezyness....

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But at least the source material of the batman graphic novel is built around something other than blind commercialism.

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And that would be...?

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And that would be...?

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Selling graphic novels to a limited market.

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Selling graphic novels to a limited market.

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Wrong. The Batman comics were created at a time when many popular comic books sold MILLIONS of copies each issue. And there was huge merchandising and advertising tied into any comic book property a publisher thought could sustain it. For example, Kellogg's was a huge sponsor of Superman for years in the early days. And Superman "himself" would promote their cereal on his radio show back in the 1940s.

It is only in the past few decades that comic book sales have shrunk to cater to a limited market.

And at no time have super-hero comics ever been published purely (or even primarily) for the sake of creating art. They have always been about blind commercialism. Proudly.

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Wrong. The Batman comics were created at a time when many popular comic books sold MILLIONS of copies each issue. And there was huge merchandising and advertising tied into any comic book property a publisher thought could sustain it. For example, Kellogg's was a huge sponsor of Superman for years in the early days. And Superman "himself" would promote their cereal on his radio show back in the 1940s.

It is only in the past few decades that comic book sales have shrunk to cater to a limited market.

And at no time have super-hero comics ever been published purely (or even primarily) for the sake of creating art. They have always been about blind commercialism. Proudly.

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I don't need a history lesson... I know the basic history of comic books.

My approach was rather narrow.

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I don't need a history lesson...

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Well, I give that one to you for free. I was just trying to point out that your earlier statement of, "But at least the source material of the batman graphic novel is built around something other than blind commercialism," was patently false.