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Originally Posted by Nick Goracke
If nothing else, Microsoft is likely to set the video-game-console record for online drama.
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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160603Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Goracke
If nothing else, Microsoft is likely to set the video-game-console record for online drama.
That's just fucking quality mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Goracke
supposedly the uk is receiving upwards to 2500 a day.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=242Quote:
Originally Posted by wizkid007
If my shit breaks, I dont' want another breakage prone console....
I want a Refurbed one with real fucking solder holding down the SMD's.
When does the 360 break? I've had mine for 2 months now and haven't had any issues. Only complain from me is the minor dirty disk issue but I'm sure that's because I buy my games used.
Do you guys use the cooler attachments found in stores?
Also, keeping the bag which it came with and covering the console with it when not in use keeps it dust free. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon35.gif
there seems to be no set as to time when they start failing. Id say 2 months is a little too early.Quote:
Originally Posted by HANZO
The dirty disc error is usually a problem with the cache on the hard drive (in oblivion) or heat. Of course this is considering your disc is in great shape ;).
The cooling attachments aren't going to help. The problem is with a design flaw in the hardware itself, down to the component level.
Well here's hoping it lasts for a good while. :oh_no:
And damn you're good! How did you know I was playing Oblivion? http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon27.gif
WTF is wrong with the people over at microsoft. Do a fucking redesign. It would cost you less money in the longrun and boost sales in the process.
Morons.
I've had mine for a LONG time now and mine has been alright. I'm just waiting for it to break any day now though...Quote:
Originally Posted by HANZO
When it goes can you just buy a new Xbox and have your gamertag transferred over? I'm way past any sort of warranty.
I've kept my xbox360 suspended on a cold wire mesh grate so its been well ventalated. I think that's the only reason why it's lasted for so long. I dread the day when it stops though....
This thread has got me thinking that every time I turn my 360 on, it could go either way. :eye: :eye:
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Originally Posted by Aaron D
:lol:
I guess im pretty lucky. I had mine since day 1 of release and played the hell out of it. It still runs good. I am now trading it in for store credit since I just picked up a Elite. I did get a two year warenty on the new one though just in case.
It varies. My first one broke right out of the box, my second one lasted six months, and I've been on my third system since (fifteen months) March 06'.Quote:
Originally Posted by HANZO
My launch 360 is still running great, and my second 360 is still going strong as well (purchased last fall). It's the luck of the draw, really.
Still, I think the 360 has a ways to go before it begins to approach the level of unreliability the PS1 and PS2 exhibited. Not a single person I knew who owned a PS1 (and there were a LOT of them) still had an operating machine after the amount of use my 360s have seen; not a single one! I know many people claim the PS2 is the least reliable console in history (and maybe it is), but in my experience, the PS1 is still the king.
Thats funny, I never ever had a problem with my PS1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishamon
I always felt it was a pretty tough system.
My ps2 on the other hand...
The PS1 was prone to an issue whereby it would stop being able to read discs properly; it would usually start to manifest as an inability to read FMV and/or redbook audio, but that was the beginning of the end. Eventually it would just stop reading discs altogether. I have read that this was due to the system heating up and distorting the laser lens, but I'm not certain of the cause. Earlier systems were more prone to this phenomenon, but later systems were also affected. I had many friends who went through two or three units over a three or four year period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
My theory on how there are millions of 360 owners with systems that are running fine, and a small minority who have gone through multiple units, is this: Microsoft (well, the company who takes care of it for Microsoft) replaces 'defective' units with little or no questions asked. They replace them with refurbished models that are likely from the same pool of machines that are returned as defective. Many of these systems may appear to run fine when received and 'tested' by the service company, and are then put back in the pool as replacements. However, a good number of these units are actually defective, and manifest a problem once in the hands of a new owner. Of all of the people I know with 360s, one has now had an issue with one of his machines (the three red lights); the unit it was replaced with also died soon after he received it, but the third one now seems to be working.
:smirk:
This reminds me of my experience with my 1st copy of Dead Rising. It was the software, no wait it was the physical disc, no wait it is the system. I remember reading Capcom and X-box official forums of people saying, "WTF??? Is it the game, hard drive, or the system, or what??". In my case it turned out it was the actual disc when I got a second copy that doesn't do the error screen when loading. I hope Microsoft learns a big ass lesson from all this crap. It is really an unstable system. I even had Rainbow Six just do an error out of the blue twice. The just don't test things out like they should.
What is funny is that they don't bother to tweak the software through X-box live on games with minor issues. Dead Rising and the text is completely horrible. I am lucky I have a 27" SDTV Sony Wega with component video or else it would be unreadable. The only major title that seems rock solid is Gears of War, maybe because they took their time with 2 years working on it.
Does anyone experience the problem with DOOM for Live Arcade when exiting the game it just freezes until you hit power?
My Saturn overheated today.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=1ed408cb.flv
Still not as bad as the 360 though :tickled:
damn thats a high failure rate! And holy shit that saturn is on fire! Did you set it on fire or was that all on its own? I smell foul play!
Hehe I got bored and a Saturn with no pad/leads/games isn't worth the price of postage here in the UK, so I just..... had a lil fun. One thing that did surprise me was how quickly it went up. I've never seen anything burn so fast!
Chimpmeister must be an MS site mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68k
'Waaahwaah I don't like that thread so I'll delete it...........then piss my pants!'
Warranty extended to 3 years.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6173633...ewstop;title;1
haha youre a huge retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfamifreak
Haha wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Shady
I don't think I've seen anything like this with a consumer entertainment product before. It's effectively the same as a recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Shady
Cynic: Microsoft is covering their ass (to the tune of 1.15 billion dollars) to avoid an even bigger lawsuit.
Microsoft apologist: They're saints for doing what's right and looking out for their customers.
I'm sure it's somewhere in between. ;)
Still... wow.
Yeah first thing I thought about was trying to beat the class action suit to the punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Goracke
I would think the somewhere in between is that they didn't want a class action suit, and they're also trying to "do the right thing" but their motive is because the growing reports of high failure rates are going to start affecting sales if they haven't already.
Either way I'm sure its good news for any 360 owner that loves the games but can't bear to turn the thing on. Having a console break is never fun but as long as its under warranty for over half of a consoles expected 'generation' then you can buy one with confidence that you won't have to ever pay for more than 2 360s
As a consumer, i'd prefer this to any class action lawsuit or Recall:
Recall: You have to send your shit away even if it works... Down time for every system and your system may not ever breakdown.
Class Action Lawsuit: All the money goes to the Lawyers...
Personally, I like the fact that I won't have to buy an extended warranty on an Elite.
I think it's great news personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
I feel a little safer about buying a 360 (eventually).
2 of my 3 friends with 360s have experienced problems with theirs (one was a three red ring error, the other was a hard drive failure).
I'm on my third one right now. Thus your numbers are now 3 of your 4 friends with 360s have had problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
:emb: -big hugs- :emb:
Was thinking of making a site built to see the way different consoles react to being burned. Done a Saturn & PS1, Mega Drive & AES are next.Quote:
Originally Posted by not sonic
Glad to see the machines sold in france are less error-prone ...
It s astonishing that the failure rate reported in the US retail chains is around 30% ... what a mess. By experience here, it is around 3 % i think (out of 30 people i know with a 360, one had the 3 rings of death)
Well, that is 1 out of 3 problems fixed. Now, if they can just do revised hardware and replace the old hardware on all systems when your system does die during the warranty. Seriously, made in China. Shit dude!!!!!
I like how a lot of the people at Gamespot are saying MS must love its customers by doing this. Teenagers are fucking clueless. I know, I was one during the launch PS1 systems. No, it is more like MS loves to not loose several billion Dollars in lawsuits and not make money with no future purchases.
The other problem is little stupid tidbits with software errors and too small of text for the 80% of the owners that have no HD-TVs in their house. Luckily, I have a 27" Sony with component where it is just readable. 21" or less, then you are fucked my friend.
The Forza 2 DVD drive kill cracks me hell the up. That is some funny shit, really, really funny. I think this will cause MS and maybe Sony to learn a very harsh and expensive lesson.
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Originally Posted by jro
There is sadness in my heart.
3 of 4 friends have xboxes that have failed.
Go microsoft!
PS: MS still hasn't shipped my friend his hard drive...they're really giving him the run around.
Here's some good news for 360 owner's
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160818
I was trying to key in on the extreme closeness of our relationship... :emb: :emb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
But yeah, fuck MS and all that jazz, too.
Another take on the $1.15b repairs cost to MS, courtesy of the NY Times.
"Estimated that as many as one-third to one-half of them require a fix."
Paraphrased, but that's far from idle speculation or anecdotal.
They need to kiss every 360 owners ass right about now, or stare down the barrel of some serious lawsuits. Even if only a third of all units, that's still a ridiculously high failure rate for any kind of consumer electronic product put out a by company that ranks among the world's largest. End point-they're shoveling some seriously shitty hardware down our throats.
Yes, yes they are. Which makes for a pretty dumb thing to have to factor in to making which-platform decisions on games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loopz
At least twice off of the top of my head that I can think of, I went to Best Buy to pick up a game that I knew had come out on both PS3 and 360, Virtua Tennis 3 and Transformers in these two cases. Both times, I was fully aware that the 360 version was supposed to have better graphics. But both times, I ended up going with the PS3 version strictly due to the fact that the PS3 isn't a POS that breaks all the time like the goddamn 360 does.
...and that is something you shouldn't have to think about as a gamer/consumer. Man, don't you just love how far capitalism has made it? Its so good, its fucking great.
It almost seems like everything made these days is buy today and throw away tomorrow. I much have rathered paid an extra $100 for a liquid cooling system or just a reliable system period than this BS. What is funny is that I feel this way and my 360 hasn't even died YET. I won't be surprised at all when next gen systems come out every 3 years instead of 6-7.
woooo!
never bought one , ghost console
not interested in the games either
But just about everybody I knew HAD to go through at least 3 PS1s. The normal average I've seen for PS2s was two, among my friends. Of my known friends, who were early adopters, that didn't have problems with their PS2s, that number was 0. PS1 still definitely topped that marker, 'cept the company never fessed up to that one, you had to buy another unit (or pay the same amount as a new one to get it fixed).Quote:
Originally Posted by 68k
One might say, in store warranty, but we're talking PS1 here. If the company never fessed up to the problem, it was *your* problem, then. If people can't understand that difference here, which I've been saying for years, then obviously I have no more to say to them. They simply choose to listen what they choose to listen to, here. That's all. They have absolutely closed minds and are basically going with the most ignorant mentality I've seen on the net. That's why I basically hardly post here, anymore. I know nothing sinks in.
lol
crybaby
Naw, you take that award from me, big time.
Yep, I also feel the PS1, in my experience, was far worse than the PS2. The PS2 was pretty bad as well; I have seen online 'reseller estimates' of 50% to 80% failure rates (seriously) for the PS2. Those same sites were giving 30% numbers for the 360 some months ago, but I figured they were all exaggerated. Some were reporting that the slimline was actually less reliable than the earlier revisions! At any rate, all three consoles were (are) unreliable, but at least MS is actually admitting there is a problem and trying to do something about it; with Sony you were screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirk Foiden
Hell, it's not just the PlayStation brand that has been unreliable with Sony; it's surprising that the PS3 seems pretty stable, after some early reports of issues. Of course, it could be that there just aren't enough of them out there.
MS isn't doing this to avoid a class action lawsuit. A class action lawsuit would probably be much cheaper than this.
The reason MS is doing this is because since games are fairly homogenous right now (with all the cross platform titles), they can't afford to lose their user base right as the system is starting to beat Sony in the American market. I'm sure many of you had the same thought when your 360 broke, and that was "maybe I should just get a ps3 instead", because that's something that crossed my mind. They don't make money on the hardware itself, and aren't even close to being in the black on their total investment in the 360, so if people start abandoning the system now due to hardware failure, it will hurt MS badly, and maybe get them out of the video game business entirely because of a lack of confidence in the next console.
Case in point: I already had one 360 die on me, when my second one goes I'ma swap it (+$100) for a PS3. Yay Costco!
The XBOX 360 is a faulty system and I cannot believe these Microsoft fanboys keep sending the in again and again to be repaired and are still so loyal to M$:help: :smirk: . If I had to send my PS3 back 3 times to Sony I might think twice about ever owning another one of their systems. I also have a Wii and guess what M$ fanboys they both work flawlessley. The 360 had a major design flaw and shame on Microsoft for trying to rush out the 360 a year before everyone else and not making sure the system didnt have any major faults. They made a faulty system and now it is costing them 1.5 billion dollars, nice job Gates. This is the beginning of the end for the 360, buyer beware.
I like to play video games.Quote:
Originally Posted by lidiaandmichael