If you believe in hell- what do you think the odds are of you ending up there?

It's kind of a mind fuck, since if you truly believe in a place of eternal punishment, you'd have to be insane not to do whatever it took to avoid going there. Human being? 80 or so years of life. Hell? ETERNITY!

Regardless of how unfair salvation seems to rational people when looking at the world at large- you'd pretty much have to do anything the God that commands you asks.

Personally, I don't believe in anything religious or supernatural, but if there was a hell, I will definitely be going. I don't think you can make pope-sodomization(sp?) jokes and then somehow make it through the pearly gates.

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Originally Posted by neobuyer

It's kind of a mind fuck, since if you truly believe in a place of eternal punishment, you'd have to be insane not to do whatever it took to avoid going there. Human being? 80 or so years of life. Hell? ETERNITY!

Regardless of how unfair salvation seems to rational people when looking at the world at large- you'd pretty much have to do anything the God that commands you asks.

Personally, I don't believe in anything religious or supernatural, but if there was a hell, I will definitely be going. I don't think you can make pope-sodomization(sp?) jokes and then somehow make it through the pearly gates.

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Making jokes and killing people are kinda different...

At least thats what I heard from Moses...

Well, I remember something in the bible about the only 'unforgiveable' sin being turning away from god.

I need to go watch more Benny Hin

The concept of "hell" is very complex to say the least, but that doesn't make it any more acceptable... it's a more drastic Yin and Yang thing, heaven and hell, up and down, black and white and all that jazz.

The very first thing that comes to my mind why I don't want to go to hell is heat, I hate very warm places unless there's sea or a lake I could jump into... at least the bible doesn't mention any lakes in hell or anything so I think I'll pass.

About the odds of me ending in there, well, I'm not really sure what to do to avoid it in the first place. According to the bible, there are seven cardinal sins and I guess most people are sinners by that definition... lust, gluttony, greed...etc.

So... see ya there, folks.

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Originally Posted by Takumaji

So... see ya there, folks.

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Meet me for a cup of boiling bile at Mammon's- right there in the heart of Dis.

The first thing I'll do when I'm in hell is to check out the guestbook to find out if Mother Theresa is there as well, some ppl said she was quite the evil bitch when nobody was looking.

After the drink we should go to Aleister's party.

Supposedly god will forgive you forwhatever BS you may have commited before you die if you accept him and repent, which seems like the biggest copout of all time if you ask me. Certainly something I'm not willing to do, so chances are 98%.

Dante's Inferno Here I come.

What's with all the long answers?

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I need to go watch more Benny Hin

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I find this to be his best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4Hv0LQiIA

I'll be there for sure.

I mean,who in their right mind would want to be in heaven with the 'goodie - goodies'?

Biggie said it best when he said:

"God will probably have me on some real strict shit

No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked".

B-

I think I'm too stolic , stolid, and bored for heaven, but too generous, dedicated (to helping others), and morally straight for hell. Might end up haunting some ancient castle in Scotland, but chances are I'll be in hell just due to my association w/others.

I'd say somewhere around 99.997% or more.

i figure we die and we die.
i'd wish there was something supernatural but i've been turning a little
pessamistic about the whole thing.
it makes me feel bad sometimes though because i don't think i honestly
live my life like every day is my last in that case.
but life's been sucking like that.

I realized the other day that if someone believes in a heaven and hell, that means they believe there's another dimension of reality.

I'm pretty sure I'd end up in heaven.
I'm not a nice guy at all, but I'm good enough for it, maybe.

About 5%. I live a pretty good life. I dont attend church so if that is really a requirement I hurt my chances :eek:

I believe if there is a heaven and a hell as long as you live a good life you would be fine.

This is a most interesteing thread to read, Alot deaper than whats normally written here.

I hope, and believe if such a heaven and hell exsist, that I have lived my life in a way to help the world as a whole, not just people, but animals and the whole world as a being itself. I am a firm believer in some form of "Karma" and I live everyday with the idea that if something bad happens, it will balance out, and eventually the good I have done will come full circle. So heaven here I come!

Hope thats not too corny.

I'll be hanging out with BIG and Abasuto.

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I'll be hanging out with BIG and Abasuto.

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Can i hang out with you guys?:cool:

Every weekend night, things reach a point in which I always sing "I'ma go to hell, the day I die".

So, obviously, yes.

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I'm pretty sure I'd end up in heaven.
I'm not a nice guy at all, but I'm good enough for it, maybe.

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you are an asshole. ill see u in hell motherfucker. :very_ang:

Honestly it has always been my belief that only the evilest of motherfuckers would go to hell.

i don't know if i'm good or bad in the eyes of god. i've prolly done some bad shit, and according to him all sins are equal except for turning your back on him. i don't remember every hardening myself against the teachings and faith my parents shoved into me as a kid. i can be a dick sometimes, but i try to be good and do what's right. i'm not sure, i might go to hell, i might not. god gives forgiveness to those who ask it, i ask it, but at the same time i know i'm not spotless and sinless and i know that liklihood is there's some stipulation that cubans can't go to heaven.

It's always been my belief that only neobuyer will go to hell.

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The first one to go please grab a good seat for me. :D

I reckon it's more the way Hades was described, desolate and cold.

At least lava fountains, dancing flames and having unlubricated bicycles shoved up your ass is more interesting than coldness and nothing else.

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Originally Posted by neobuyer

Well, I remember something in the bible about the only 'unforgiveable' sin being turning away from god.

I need to go watch more Benny Hill

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Fixed...

http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=2717

Given the choice between heaven or hell, I think I'd choose hell.

Deepak Chopra once said (regarding heaven) that removing the creative impulse stimulated by discontent, you would be doomed to a life of gray senility.

Hell is, frankly, the more interesting of the two options.

My uber-Catholic g/f LOVES when I bring this up. :mr_t:

Don't fool the pope. :lolz:

A few times in high school while I was tripping my balls off I would have these crazy visions of what I thought hell might be like. But when I stopped tripping I concluded that I really wasn't able to grasp what it might actually be like if it truly was forever. My mind couldn't accept the idea of an all loving/forgiving God casting you to a place you can never escape. I also thought, wouldn't it get pretty old and repetitive? Maybe this is what my mind can't grasp? Maybe just due to the fact I'm human, I can't conceptualize eternity and that's why I don't want to accept it?

I've also heard that instead of just being a place filled with fire and lava, that it could be more as some of you described - cold desolate. Just some sort of solitary confinement, that would be fucking torture. We'd go insane without any contact with other people/beings. In Buddhism there are different forms of hell. Take the Infernal Affairs movies for example, they give a few quotes of what it's like to be in the ultimate (lowest) hell in Buddhism - pretty haunting words.

If there is a hell, being brought up Catholic makes me think I'd be going there (I love me some sodomy. However, I do try to do what's right and moral most of the time. Actually, I think reincarnation fits my beliefs better than believing in a "Heaven and Hell", and reaching enlightenment (nothingness) sounds pretty good to me. Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that Heaven would be a grey senility since it would all be the same, so perhaps nothingness would be better since it's an escape from everything.

To be honest, I believe in peace and humanity. Don't be selfish and make a positive impact on those around you. In other words, I'm going to hell. :annoyed:

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I also thought, wouldn't it get pretty old and repetitive?

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I had this problem when trying to conceptualize a "perfect" Hell. I thought maybe you're rendered incapable of getting used to things in Hell (along with being incapable of feeling justified, etc.), but if you're changed like that, is it even really you?
I have a similar problem with Heaven.

Dante's, Jahannam, Di Yu or what?

I need clarification.

I took an online test once and it said I'd be at one of the lower rings of hell, a place full of sadness. Are people who do t fairly innocent deeds like telling lies punished the same way as Hitler? I hope not.

the concept of hell seems so human, that i cant imagine an omnipotent being creating it.

it's bitter, hateful, spiteful, and evil. These things do not sound like something an all knowing god would deal in.

In addition, why would someone as powerful as an omnipitent being care if you followed ridiculous doctrine and rituals? Go to church every sunday.....why would a God care? Sing songs and prayer 5 times a day....really?!? that seems bloody petty and worthless....

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Originally Posted by Shiggityputz

dont believe in hell.

i think when you die you die and thats it. no going to heaven, no going to hell, no reincarnation, etc.

I believe there is a God but not one that would create a place JUST to torment people. That's not what God is about eh?

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Have you read the Bible? Or is this your personal belief?

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Ive read it. And yes I can tell your a jehovah witness by your info. No i woldn't like a subscription to the watchtower and awake, thanks.

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I wasn't going to ask. I was just asking you a question. This is a video game forum. Trying to place magazines here will get me constantly flamed or banned.

But at the same time, I'm not going to hide my faith.

Out of curiosity, I've noticed all Kingdom Halls look alike. Is there one floorplan or set of specs for all Kingdom Halls or is an architect contracted for each one?

I changed my sig just so I wouldn’t have to comment on this rather silly topic...

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Out of curiosity, I've noticed all Kingdom Halls look alike. Is there one floorplan or set of specs for all Kingdom Halls or is an architect contracted for each one?

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Not really, but they are kept simple to keep down costs. Only a handfull of people are hired to build Kingdom Halls, everyone else is a Jehovah's Witness. If there is an architect in that Kingdom Hall, or in the area, then they won't hire one.

The Kingdom Hall I attend needed a new roof, and all the work was done by Witnesses. Our Contractor was a Witness, and he specialized in non-residential roofing.

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Originally Posted by Shiggityputz

Its cool man. I was joking about the subs. My mom is a JW, in fact. I believe a lot of what JWs have to say about stuff. I'm just not totally into it like she is, at least not right now.



I admire that.

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Then you know what it's all about. No need for me to lecure you and tell you to follow your moms example. I'm sure you hear it all the time. ;)

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Originally Posted by neobuyer

Meet me for a cup of boiling bile at Mammon's- right there in the heart of Dis.

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Out of curiosity, I've noticed all Kingdom Halls look alike. Is there one floorplan or set of specs for all Kingdom Halls or is an architect contracted for each one?

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The answer given is the same that most JW will say.
They look the same because they dont have windows. The JW"s will say this is because it has to be built in 7 days, and windows take too much time. It's really so you can't see their sacrifices to the chicken gods.

I've been to a few Kingdom Halls, and they look like compounds on the inside.

To each his own, but JW's just dont help their own rep sometimes....

To be fair, I've only gotten not very close to a Kingdom Hall. I warmed up a few JW's so I could smuggle away some Diaglotts.

PS. Someone teach me the secret handshake of the Catholic church.

let's just say there's no way in 'hell' i'd be let into heaven. not anymore anyway.

:spock:

sure there's a hell. i mean - all the evidence we've got points to an after life of fairness and equality.

edit: i'm riding a greased lightning bolt there :smirk: