Yep,
Good shit. I dont know why so many people hated it.
II was just a rehash of I with a dopey side plot.
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Yep,
Good shit. I dont know why so many people hated it.
II was just a rehash of I with a dopey side plot.
Any and all posts you make after this will automatically be invalid due to lack of credibility and any semblance of intellect.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
:spock:
wow, just wow.
i can't believe you posted this.
X3 was a pretty big turd, and Xmen II was downright awesome.
Ive not seen X2, so all I can say is that Xmen3 was abysmal.
Why Ya All Hate it?
The X-Men movie series in general sucked.
Are we really going to have to hear again about how the actor for Wolverine was too tall? Way to boil a story down to its most important aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
I haven't seen it, but I thought the second one was horrid.
I can't imagine how bad the third could possibly be.
Wouldn't want to be authentic to the source material now would we?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
Give me a break Southtown. The movie was laughable from the acting to the selection of actors to even the costumes (which were non-exsistent). Look, I'm not going to get into all the nitty gritty details of why I didn't like the movies. If you enjoyed the watered down BS that was the X-Men movie franchise, have at it. This isn't some "l33t comic book guy" rant, I just have higher standards then the BS that is the X-Men movies.
/wrists
I can't believe you could say that.
X-Men 2 > X-Men 3 > X-Men
period.
3 was gay...Juggernaut was RETARDED
1st felt unfinished
Plus, where the fuck is Gambit?!
No, Substance TV series sucked in general for example. :kekeke: kidding boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
Anyway, I have a hard time to decide whether 3 is better than 2. They're quite diferent IMO. 3 marks the end of the movie series so it's kind of my best but honnestly I don't know if it beats 2.
Weren't the costumes the ones that the Xmen wore in the comic book?
I'm not sure what comic book you were reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
For example:
Comic book
http://www.ericzinkann.com/wolvyzeck.jpg
Movie
http://www.ianadesign.com/php/movies...verine-2_s.jpg
It's just a dumbed down version. Now mask or design from the original comic. Just plain black leather.
P.S. For those of you who say "OMG SPANDEX WOULD LOOK GAY IN T3H MOVIE", please promptly STFU.
I haven't seen X3 yet, I'm waiting on the DVD. All I got to say is that the screenwriting in this series has been outstanding, and I'm looking forward to watching X3. I wish all the comic book movies would be written by the Xmen screenwriters.
Man, I'm astounded.
XIII was such a greasy, streak-in-the-bowl leaving turd compared to the first two.
I had fun with X1, thought X2 was really really good...but XIII? Massive meh.
Too many characters, too many things that stretch believability or what we know about the characters' personalities.
X3 is not written by the same people who wrote the first two.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunstarHero
@Jeddah: You dang nerd. You are the epitome of every negative trait associated with fandom. You miss the point of the stories while you concentrate on worthless minutia. You don't deserve to be let inside a movie theater in the first place. You seem like the kind of guy who doesn't read the talking head pages of comics -- just skips to the fight scenes. People like you make me so, so depressed.
He was probably talking about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
Movie
http://www.ianadesign.com/php/movies...verine-2_s.jpg
Comic
http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/...%20(WinCE).jpg
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graph..._novel1728.jpg
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graph..._novel2258.jpg You ding dang whiny-ass nerd.
Wasn't it David 'Solid Snake' Hayter who wrote the first two?Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
I'll be honest I didn't much care for teh story in this storyline but I love Cyclops and I'm a big fan of Chris Bachalo which were the main two selling points for me
So because I have standards and expect more from the movie I'm a nerddy fanboy? Wow, you'll have to put together that mind fuck of an assumption for me later on buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
Yeah, he was one of a team of people who worked on the first two. I guess him not working on the third had something to do with Singer not doing it. And I heard Hayter's putting together a Black Widow movie he'll also be directing. Maybe he was too busy with pre-production on that, or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loopz
No. The problem is you have NO standards, and you try and camouflage that from everyone by complaining about mindless shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
Example: If they made a new movie adaptation of Moby Dick with the whale being 5 feet longer than he should have been, and you complain about it -- Fucking stupid. You ignore the whole point of what that story is meant to be about, and concentrate on nonsense.
Fact: Artists draw Wolverine too tall in the comic ALL THE TIME. His height fluctuates between about 5 feet and 6 foot 1 inch from month to month, depending on the artist. Fan-favorite Mark Texiera would constantly draw him way taller than he is "supposed" to be. Silvestri would (and still does) from time to time, also. So the fuck what? Big deal.
I wasn't talking about some new comic book. I hate comic books.
Well the movie is the way I'd adapt the old xmen suits to a movie which I expected to be taken seriously (By the movie watching public, not Commic book nerds.)...
Otherwise, they might as well wear capes.
I see you've employed the "throw random shit that doesn't make sense and see if it sticks" strategy. The costumes are only ONE of many bigger problems that add up making the movies laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
Your example would be great if it were accurate. It would be more like them having Moby Dick be a purple whale with a golden tail. It's a big difference from the book and would not due the book justice. Same goes for the costumes in X-Men. Just one of the many problems in the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
Look, you've always been known to make unwarranted attacks towards me me, so I really don't take any of your comments as serious or worth any merit. If you 'd like to make sense in your next post instead of posting your worthless shit you try to pass off as real thought, I'd be more then happy to have this debate. Otherwise get lost.
Yea, and no one would buy the whole cape idea in this day and age:Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/arch...ns_199529g.jpg
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Oh, come on. Don't be so irritable.
That is funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
That is funny.
Tihs is funny.
It would be more like captain ahab having/not having a beard or being fat/skinny.
It's 'Sand Vagina Sunday' today.
Lots of people being snippy because they didn't get any last night.
I didn't, but it was sorta by choice...had to help a friend with his modded XBox early today, and last night I didn't get to sleep until 2a...girlfriend had to go home and couldn't stay over. A sad panda is me.
You're not expecting more. You're expecting less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
Anyway, here are my problems with X-Men 3:
- It tried to accomplish too much but ended up not accomplishing anything other than creating a big mess of everything. It couldn't decide whether it wanted to cover the Phoenix story or the mutant cure story, so it tried to do both. The end result was neither story going anywhere.
- There were too many throwaway characters. Take Angel out of the movie and it would have been exactly the same. Even big characters such as Cyclops and Mystique were tossed aside after 5 minutes of screen time.
- The "new" X-Men team created with the addition of Kitty Pryde, Colossus, Beast, and Iceman were completely one-dimensional compared to the team in the first two movies. Beast was a very good character; as a new character, he was developed well. And I understand not developing Iceman further since the first two movies did a good job with him. However, Kitty and Colossus might as well have been replaced by two generic mutants and no one would have cared. Neither character was developed at all, and there was no excuse not to because they weren't a big part of the previous movies. With the last two movies, you could enjoy and understand who the characters were without being familiar with the comics since they were fleshed out very well. With Kitty and Colossus, the movie assumed you knew who they were and how they are, and just threw them into the mix for the sake of it.
- Magneto was completely out-of-character, not just from the comics, but from the last two movies. He wouldn't have sacrificed so many Brotherhood members so easily, and he wouldn't have left Mystique the way he did.
- For powerful plot points, Cyclops and Professor X's deaths were as non-emotive plot points could get. Two of the X-Men leaders die, and you couldn't care less. I don't know if it was the writing or the directing, but those scenes conveyed nothing except for good special effects.
- The ending undid the big scenes in the movie. If you're going to do something big like take away Magneto's powers (something that was out-of-character for the X-Men to do anyway) and killing off Professor Xavier, and then pull the "Oh, we're just kidding. Magneto still has his powers and Professor X is still alive. Gotcha. Tee hee," don't even bother with it in the first place.
I could go on, but those are the major points.
I don't get why people absolutely hate X3. It's not as good as the second film, and it really relies on the second film a lot (whereas Xmen 2 could have been a movie all it's own without the first film).
But Norton is crazy if he thinks X3>X2. The whole thing at the end of X3 was absurd. They should have just ended the xmen movie series with a trilogy and left no openings for a sequel. Hell, I would have been pleased if Magneto had realized the error of his ways...
Jedah your argument about being true to the source material is so weak. I always viewed the Xmen films as an alternate universe, or simply a retelling of the same story. It's a fucking adaptation for christ's sake, get over it. If a few things are changed then boo hoo cry me a river. The movie universe is just that, it's the movie universe, much like how the Ultimate universe for the Xmen and other Marvel titles are different.
Oh, and Superman kicks ass Jedah. I figured a faggot like you wouldn't like the character.
DC>Marvel
Yeah, I said it.
Why else did everyone jump ship to work on the Superman movie anyway. Boy I was surprised to see the cyclops actor in that film :kekeke:
When did I say I didn't like Superman fucktard? Are you and Southtown reading the same "l33t flameboook"? I posted that picture of Superman as proof that capes can work in new Hollywood comic book movies. Read people's posts before your posts stupid crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Edit: Nevermind, don't worry about reading the posts. It's not going to help you sound any less ignorant and laughable. Wouldn't want you to waste any of your valuable time.
It's the heat. I'm waiting for Mookie to throw a garbage can through Sal's window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loopz
I concur.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
I think Radio Raheem's on the sidewalk now, down for the count.
Yeah your right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
I didn't read your posts, doing so is generally a waste of time.
Really my point was that I don't care for Marvel that much.
I just assumed a homo of your caliber wouldn't like Supes.
My bad.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
I hated all three X-men movies because Wolverine was to tall.
Also, to be fair I don't think they changed the X-Men's costumes to the black leather until after the movie came out, but I could be mistaken. I know they went back to regular costumes in Astonishing X-Men, but Ultimate X-Men is still using the leather suits. But I can't say I blame them for not using the X-Men costumes in the movies. Sometimes those things turn out great (Spiderman, Batman) and sometimes they turn out goofy (Daredevil, Fantastic Four).
I want a movie with wolverine and captain america fighting in ww2.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
Wolverine could be played by Tom Hanks and Cap'n would be played by Vin Diesel.
It would be great.
I never thought of that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Mostly cuz I know that they would end up back and alive somehow...
It would be nice if we got to see some of this in the Wolverine movie. I doubt it though. Man if the beginning was like a mini Origin's it would rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
I was actually thinking the other day about how much I'd like to see their exploits in WW2 explored more, especially in the Ultimate universe. It would make a kick ass mini-series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Actually i'd really like to see more Cap'n in WW2 stuff. The inclusion of Wolverine would only make it that much sweeter. There was an episode of Xmen Evolution (i think thats the newest cartoon) that sort of delved into this. Hell that episode even had magneto. Good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
Some awesome things could be done with that.
Especially since the original Cap'n in WW2 comics were little more than pro-US/Anti-Axis propaganda.
Wasn't there supposed to be a Wolvie Movie?
I remeber that back in the day (when there was talk of Glenn Danzig playing wolverine), it was planned as part of the package.
Anyhow, Archangel is going to rock all of you in X4.
I thought they were just going to make a Wolverine movie instead of X4? I'm not sure. Im too lazy to check though.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
Was that angel or archangel (not that i know the difference).
IIRC:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Angel becomes archangel...
or some shit like that....
I was talking about this comic regarding the costume choices:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Uncanny1.jpg
Apocalypse is the one who turns Angel into Archangel. I don't think they'll use him in a movie.
3 was a let down, and I had really high hopes after II. And I think that's where it failed - if you loved X1 and X2, then X3 would likely be a downer for you.
And I'm going to be very cold here, and possibly racist...
But it was the asian spikey dude that killed the movie.
plain and simple.
worst idea ever.
flaming carrot was cool. I miss the independent 80s comics.
Fuck the haters. I loved this movie. But I'm not a hardcore comics reader
I gotta say i agree, i thought the 2nd one was terrible, just really boring, with a retarded bad guy.
III i thought had great action, loads more mutants, fucking beast was spot on and it had a good pace!
But yeah it had terrible bits like Vinny Jones as fucking juggernaut, shit ass story killing off characters that should'nt have been, but meh its an action film and it gave me action!