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Aye.
Not that I have been actively playing in the last two years. Started out in 95 or something with whfb, 40k came along a year later. Sold all of my figures in 99 cause I was more interested in boozing and toking (stupid teenager) . Rebought me an Eldar army late `02, which I am still painting :D And there`s also a Khorne Chaos marine army in the works, but being heavily into conversions, I`ve yet managed to make the army commander and an assault squad
Nowadays if we play, It`s always40k, usually small 1500-2000pts battles using the 2nd edition rules. And for smaller 500-Whatnot pts. scrims we use the more detailed original "Rogue Trader" rules.
Strangely enough, despite the fact that the 40k is much more popular here in Brazil than WFB (like all over the world, I think) here in my city, with rare exceptions, everybody only plays WFB.
I know the GW games since 94, I think, but never invested in that hobby. I'm starting now, and I'm planning to build a Witchhunters army. Me and a friend that is a experienced WFB player - but plays some 40k too - are studying the 40k 4th edition rules, and we will start some games to attract new players - I have lots of friends that never played wargames before, but love the 40k miniatures.
Actually, I'm using the Skavens, borrowed from that friend in WFB. And experimenting the WH army with some fake minis, just to test the rules.
Wow, never would have guessed you'd be into it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
I started playing 40k Orks bout 6 months ago. I'm on a nice 9 day vacation starting tommorrow afternoon and after I finish programming my database project the rest of the time will be spent relaxing and painting up the rest of my army. I have a few conversions to do after that, but I'll pretty much be done with what I want to own for Orks.
I do know that after XMas I'll be starting a Marines chapter too, just so that I'll have an army that can give me different ways to play the game since Orks are so one sided (I still love em though).
DoW influence, just like me? :kekeke:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
Haha, despite you talk a lot about Dow here, you were the last person that I would imagine that would be interested in tabletop games. I thought that you were one of that guys that are only into eletronic games :)
I was an avid RPG and anything-related in the early 90s. I only took that long to start WH because I depended on my parents income to maintain it. And after I start to earn a income good enough to sustain my hobbies, I simply had forgot about WH.
DoW was a great way to make me remember ;)
Nah, I play a lot of traditional stuff too when I have time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
40k has taken a lot of my time away from video games lately though, mainly because I have so little free time to play stuff anymore between work, school, and family. So when I get my time to play 40k w/ my friends it's become the new competitive thing I do instead of 2D fighters lately.
But the hobby part of doing conversions and painting is really relaxing for me, which I've needed lately. Work and school especially are burning me out.
Only 14 more hours to go before my vacation starts!!! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:
EDIT: And yeah, DoW is what influenced me to start playing the game. My friends played it, but I didn't get really interested untill after playing DoW. I like the new expansion too, the Ork part of the campaign is really cool.
Yes, for me too. That's the most important part to me, I think. I need something relaxing to make my mind busy outside the routine. I'm that kind of person that becomes over anxious when I have nothing to think or do.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
And videogames are something that I like a lot, but it just don't make me relax at all.
I never actually used to play 40K itself,I was more into Space Hulk but I still have loads of figs that are half painted or still in pieces ready for their first dab of colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
On the marines side I have the Blood Angels and for the Chaos I have a few painted up in the colours of the Black Legion.
The original GW factory was just up the road from me and it was nothing just to go up tot he reception and ask for someone from sales who would come down and take the order and we could get our stuff there and then.
I need to find all my stuff and take a few pics of the ones I have painted up,all I have to hand is this pic of a converted Chaos Dreadnaught I did.He's a bit chipped and scuffed in places and needs a good clean and a touch up and some better pics taking(the pic was taken about 3 years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...8Image0004.jpg
Want to talk relaxing? I beat the original DoW campaing at about midnight after I came home from working 9 hours and then doing a 3 hour class, both of which were excruciating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
I was definitely enjoying playing Marines at that point. The whole "Cleanse, Purge, Kill" theme was very relaxing at the end of that day. :D
Yeah, I'm liking the new campaign a lot, and the new multiplayer maps rocks. But the IG army is way too bad converted compared to the original armies. The IG's "strength by numbers" factor are badly represented in the quantity/variety of troops, and they take long time to be able to build the vehicles and the elite/heavy infantry.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
Hey at least their late and mid game is much better than the Orks. The Boyz got the shaft in the mid to late game units.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
I'm not much of an IG fan, but their super-heavy tanks are awesome in the game. The Baneblade especially. Supposedly to survive the early game with IG you're supposed to rush to sentinals untill you can get up to pumping out Leman Russ's.
I wouldn't know though, I didn't start the "Order" part of the campaign yet, and every time I play a skirmish it's with Orks. :D
Hahaha, I'm into doing that kind of thing from time to time, with Civ3 or CTP, Rise of Nations and DoW. Nothing better that crush entire nations to vent anger. The biggest problem is to work next day after only 3-4 hours of sleep... I always regret it afterwards :annoyed:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
And sincerely, one the best things in 40k is that Crusade/Inquisition spirit, latin language and the Gothic archtecture.
/me <3 the Imperium. That's why I want a WH army. The concept of Sisters Repentia, Arco-flagelants and Penitent Engines are just like made specially for me.
HAH! My best friend plays a WH army. He was playing it with all Sisters of Battle too untill I showed him that he could take Grey Knights too. Oh and Penitent Engines are disgusting. It's almost a gauranteed turn 2 assault with a walker, very nasty stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
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Originally Posted by soopafamicom
Haha, cool. I wish that I could get GW minis that easy :D
Holy torture machines rulez :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
2D6 CC attacks per turn rulez too.
My main problem that is my friend plays with Eldar, so he can easily shoot down my infantry before I can get close enough to use bolters. I'm trying more vehicle-embarked troops in the next game to overcome this.
I played a bit with the DaemonHunters at the Army Builder. It looks really deadly. I just not that confident because the small number of troops that you put on the table.
HUGE WARHAMMER FAN HERE!
I used to love reading the Fantasy Battles, until they changed the format to the new style, where in 40K Battles instead of individual Circles, they made one ugly Block for a whole squad.
I understand it. The unit blocks are somewhat limiting, but that pre-napoleonic style fits well with the fantasy setting, IMO, creating very different strategic considerations. And it's a very welcome change from the 40k gaming style.Quote:
Originally Posted by DARK ANDY
Vehicles! They're death traps in 4th edition. Well for SoB against Eldar it might work out alright if you move 12", disembark 2", and then rapid fire at another 12". It's risky, but would be interesting for sure. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
Playing eldar eh? Well kit out on Heavy Bolters to start nailing the guardians. S5 AP4 should do a pretty quick job on em. You could also play a bit more defensively , not moving your firing line and taking your bolter shots at 24" instead of 2 at 12".
The real problem is taking out the Wraithlords. If he's fielding a lot of them then metltaguns would probably do the trick. Ok, a LOT of Melta Guns. ;)
The main problem are 2 elite units which I don't remember the names, that can shoot me at 36" and 48" (almost across the entire table, depending the LoS).Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
His Wraithlord is the terror of my Penitent Engine. I need to put it distant from it, and get some simple infantary to keep him busy long enough to make my arco-flagenlants and PE close - Witchhunters assault are really a nasty thing.
I'm relying on a Exorcist to make some damage to that long-range asses :mad:
Exorcists are awesome anti armor, just watch out for the bright lances. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
If he's really outranging you, you could try and use DH allies like I showed my friend. If you want to talk about some NASTY supporting assault units for the WH army, the Grey Knights are it.
Plus if you take a Grey Knight squad as a Fast Attack option you can deep strike them to those lines of his. Of course if he's hitting you with AP3 weapons, that might not be such a good idea. But you could spend a ton of points and use a squad of Grey Knight Terminators. Deep Strike those puppies and blow the crap out of him. :D
Just to make this thread a bit more interesting ;)
http://paulocamossa.sites.uol.com.br...SP-121105.html
A small 6-players tournament held in São Paulo, at the apartment of a WH forum member.
Grey Knights deep-striking sounds awesome. Well, my opponent have lots of low AP attacks, like a unit that hits with AP1 at a roll to hit of 6 :help:Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
But I'll consider the DH as allies with much love and care :D
<3 Eldar
Hands down the best looking army.
You guys are using the later ed. rules that which I`m not familliar with, but from what I`ve gathered, the main problem with Eldar is their fragility. The Shuriken catapult is the best basic weapon in the game, and with its sustained fire, even a marine squad has to think twice before stepping out of cover.
If you want cheese for the Eldar, go for 5 or so Wraithguard and a Warp Spider squad to boot. Not so cheesy but devastating nonetheless are Dark Reapers (2 squads of 3 or so, the other one kitted with antiplant missiles and the other with plasma, you can pull off some mayhem with this combo)
The Eldar`s good points are their firepower and mobility, the problem being on how to manuever them safely intoa position to shoot or charge, but once you do, paydirt :D
Oh and Hendrix, you got a point there, the hobby aspect being the bigger one in wh. Me and my friends realized this when everyone was tinkering away with terrain and figures instead of playing.
Soopafamicom, nice oldschool chaos dreadnought, the skaven bannerpole is a good idea. Since gw opened a store in Helsinki, I`ve had a mind to get some of those oop figures, like the original eldar farseer, much nicer than the current ones.
Yep!
Though i havent played in over 2 years (all my stuff is in storage in the US right now).
Started with 40k when rogue trader came out, in what, the early 90s?
I played space orks from the start, but also started collecting blood angels chaos, and tyranids.
I definately stick with the 2nd ed. rules, or rogue trader (or some mix of the two)... i think the 3rd edition rules are really shitty. Its kind of infuriating to play, and it feels like they just keep dumbing it down to make it so younger kids can play. fsck that noise. GW also really sapped all the character out of the orks, which rather ticks me off.
Theyre just about grubbing for money nowadays.
For fantasy i play chaos and orcs/goblins.
PS: eldar are cheezy bastards. or, as the orks call them, panzies.
Used to play Rogue Trader about 15 years ago, but wasn't really able to get back into it later. I liked the older GW atmosphere a lot better - plus, back in the day, there were all the GW-orientated grindcore/death metal bands. D-Rok, Bolt Thrower, etc. Loved that era.
True. We use mainly 2nd ed with the Rogue Trader close combat rules, which imo still make more sense and are fairer, for example when 10+ Ork Boyz mob up on a character, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rassilon
p.S Eldar = Cheese ?
Dude, I`d say that especially under the 2nd ed rules, Tyranids are uber cheese, and so are Space Marines so a certain extent, not really so overpowered but you can play a turtling game with the marines and secure a win, perhaps boring or "vanilla" would be a better term.
I have sore memories of matches with this one friend of mine, who has a chapter of his own. Who takes a Dreadnought, a Support squad, a couple of tacticals and regardless of the mission or if we are playing in a campaign, sits in hard cover, rapid fires given the chance and lets the dread stomp around, If the dread is destroyed then He`s at a loss. This is a problem since our tabletops are a bit smaller than what they should be, outmanouvering and securing an objective, etc. becomes tricky.
Yeah, I remember when they sold records in White Dwarf, etc :) You`re right that they have toned down the whole dark fantasy \ sci-fi feel of the game. I just browsed through the old Realm of Chaos books, and remembered gems like the fact that the Imperium is totally facist: due to controlling knowledge about daemons, the Inquisition wipes out the population of any planet that has a Chaos uprising, also killing the Imperial Guard that has participated in securing the situation :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gmw
Guess they had to take such stuff out in order to market the games to a wider (read : younger) audience
I bought the WFB starter set last month. I'm still not done painting the orcs :(
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2701/banner2bz.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6828/chariot0aj.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8914/empire7kl.jpg
The rulebook looks very intimidating, I hope I didn't paint all this for nothing.
Always wanted to (that and Battletech), but never had the time (or anyone around to play it with).
I think it was just the figures that impressed my the most.
I once bought some Battletech foot soldiers and painted them... the just ended up as extras in my G.I.Joe battles with friends.
Cool paint with the boars :)
The orks just need an ink wash at the blades to make they look more "real", or you just still hasn't done it? Very good skills!
Well the WFB book is much more intimidating than the 40k one, due that champions and movement rules that are more complicated than 40k.
Bobak: I used to play battletech a LOT. But we only got here the portuguese edition, with the cardboard minis. A brazilian published released the last edition of BT with plastic miniatures here, just before Microsoft bought Fasa and aborted the tabletop line. But that was too late, to little people were interested in the game, and they didn't release any expansion to it.
I had friends who played WH Fantasy back when I was hooked on M:tG in my high school days. I really liked the look of the figures, but never got into the game itself. I did however paint a ton of the minis for fun. Before the advent of EQ I used to numb my mind by spending hours sitting under a bright light agonizing over brushstrokes on my latest dragon or greater demon mini. I still have a collection of my painted, and some still unfinished, minis in my closet.
Since it was mentioned, I love DoW and Winter Assault. Also looking forward to the WH Fantasy RTS upcoming from Namco.
Yup, Just what I was thinking, If those are his first figures o_O sweet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
You should`ve seen my 1st Skaven foot soldiers :emb:
As to the wash, yup try a 1/3 brown to 2/3 yellow wash and then dilute it with water, when used sparingly (not on the whole blade + light application) it gives off a nice rust effect
p.S Nice basing on the chariot
I didn't played any other set of rules other than 4th ed, or read the older books, but maybe (just maybe) you guys would be surprised with the actual edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Late
The artwork is much better than the older ones that I see on the web and remember from the 90s, the book is very profound about the violence of the Imperium, talking about the 3 inquisition armies, which 2 of them are already released (Ordo Malleus and Ordo Hereticus), and some old-timer brazilian players were talking about some minor aspects of the 2nd ed that were somewhat re-integrated now (don't ask which ones, I don't know THAT much).
But WFB really had lost almost all the dark appeal for sure.
No, I'm not talking about the actual game being changed, I'm talking about the Battles showcased in White Dwarf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verythrax
Sometime from Issue 130 to 200-something on, they had awesome little Overview Maps of all the Turns on what happened, who got killed (with little Skull graphic for the newly killed ones), and then they switched the 40K Battles into some Cheaply made Overview maps where you couldn't really imagine what was happening, because instead of each Character having his own Circle to represent him, they just put in a Colored Block to represent the entire squad.
Old Format = OOOOOOOOOO (1 squad) {Everytime one guy dies, there's a skull in his place, and disappears)
New Format :
/---\
|___| (1 Squad) {Nothing changes to the graphic until the whole squad dies)
\---/
This is the boat i'm in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobak
I've always been a fan of turn based strategy stuff. Tactics Ogre/Ogre Battle/Final Fantasy Tactics are all just games I love.
Plus I've slowly been getting drawn into wargaming, albeit via board games. I'm a huge Axis and Allies fan, fooled around with civilization board game a bit too, and a few other war type board games.
Thing is i've got no one to play with.
Regardless i've always been fascinated by this stuff, and i've thought about getting into the LotR wargame that GW put countless times (any opinions on this, is it any good?).
Basically i've always been a little overwhelmed. Do they have starter kits for this stuff? If you guys could help me out, maybe point me in the right direction that'd be awesome.
I stoped with Magic: The Gathering Thank YOu.
I don't know How I'd Hide this Geekyness from my friends and family.
It's hard enough to hide my video games from them.
That's sad you have to hide things from friends and family.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
Yeah.. It's hard to hide my video games because my realdoll collection takes up all of my closet space.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drizzle
Go spam somewhere else please.
Woah, these painted things look awesome.
BTW, I still have that Warhammer 40000 big-ass starter set (first one I think) and it's still new, what is it worth? Oh and I have a couple of old (maybe 10 years ago) White Dwarf issues too...
Oh, I see. I thought that you were talking about the bases. I never paid attention to the bases before I started playing this year, si I thought that before it would be different. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DARK ANDY
I've got a shitload of Games Workshop books and minis (both Fantasy and 40k, as well as Necromunda) but sadly, never really got to play it all that much. Ah well, someday ...
@The Drizzle: Your Boyz turned out great! :buttrock:
Nothing, the new version has all the new rules ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jotarou
I haven't had the chance to get into Warhammer unfortunately but i do regularly play Heroscape. I think the hex size is perfect for terrain use on other games. I imagine you could utilize them for just about any small figure games of the sort. There's even a program out that allows you to take Heroclick figures and convert there stats to fit a Heroscape character card and then utilize them in the game.
I have Heroscape, pretty cool idea but i've got no one to play with. I really love what you can do with the terrain, thats arguably the best part of the game. Although I really don't like the fantasy premise of it, it's kind of goofy. I'm more in to the real military stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
Shoot, you want my heroscape starter set? I'll sell it to you cheap.
Heroclix is really cool as well, but again i'm really not into comics enough to find it that enjoyable. My friend is really into it and i play with him from time to time.
I did just buy this on the internet:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aa/welcome
Had no idea Avalon Hill had made a miniature, hex based version of Axis and Allies. I think i've finally (possibly) found a game that suits me.
Now if i could only find a sweet ancient warfare game.
You should look into a game called 'Memoir 44'. You need someone to play it against but i believe its right up your ally. Check it out here >>Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
http://boardgamegeek.com/game/10630
..and just how cheap would you sell your Heroscape set?
meh...I dunno $25 shipped sound reasonable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundance
Basically i'm prob never going to play it again and would rather see it in the hands of someone who would enjoy it.
I've been thinking about picking up one of the other version of Axis and Allies, maybe D-Day or Pacific.
I will look into Memoir '44.
Any other reccomendations?
edit: board game geek is a great site, i've been using it for awhile now. I think i'll finally register...
I'd go $25 shipped...PM me w/ your Paypal Addy or if you prefer M.O.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
I don't play too many War board games like Memoir '44 so i don't really have any other recommendations. But it did see that theres 3 new additions to Memoir '44 so it keeps it fun and i know for a fact that you can like 2 set of Memoir up together to make a super huge battlefield.
http://thoughthammer.com/advanced_se...6e3ab1&x=0&y=0
Theres http://www.flamesofwar.com/ miniature battlez
I have heroscape too, it's pretty cool, but also kind of lame since everyone has the same exact mini's as everyone else.
Now thats what i'm talking about :buttrock:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drizzle
I wonder if it's fun though. I'm not sure im ready to make the leap into full fledged miniature gaming yet (painting + collecting) but i'll most def keep this in mind. Mostly it's a cost thing.
Damn, I haven't played in years. Still have a closet full of models... Mostly unpainted...
Wish I could have that cash back. Ah, to be younger and richer. :crying: