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But I love the Spas shotguns. They just look cool, which I am sure is the most important thing to consider when it comes to guns.
So anyway, how much would something like this set me back if I were to try to buy one? Merc, anyone? Also, do they make them with stocks?
Honestly, don't get something you dont like or think isnt cool. Not a lot of people actually need a gun to protect themselves on a day to day basis, so why not get something you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
As for finding a SPAS 12 I couldn't say, I read the company stopped producing them in 2000 in favor of producing the newer SPAS 15.
Might be something about obtaining one on this site: http://spas12.com/
I haven't really looked around that site much though.
you could really hose some bitches with that! :eek:
I'm not a complicated man Duffy, something as simple as shooting a watermelon with a large gun is very entertaining in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
I don't see how the Spas 12 could be comfortable without a stock. I'm no expert, but I have shot 12 gauges before and while the kick isn't horrible, it's not something I'd want to shoot without having my shoulder absorb the recoil. Is the Spas supposed to be shot at the waist? That seems somewhat insane to me.
It would be some nice compensation for my incredibly tiny penis.Quote:
Originally Posted by FeelGood
agreed. if anyone comments on your penis you could just shoot them in the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
you could prolly shoot a lot of things in the head with that thing. :eek:
Yeah they come with folding stocks as well.
I had one in Dino Crisis for PSX but I lost my memory card :'(
http://manta.univ.gda.pl/~kazik/tool...n/spas12_2.jpg
That's the plan my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by FeelGood
Everything I read said the folding stock is only there to make the gun easier to store (takes up less space folded). You can get a fully synthetic stock for the spas 12. I'm not so sure i would want to fire a shotgun without a stock repeatedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
And yes, i too am a simple man. I delight in shooting stupid objects (watermelons, jugs of water) and watching them explode.
I thought someone on these boards owned a spas 12?
If I can talk them into giving it to me then this thread will be considered a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
The pistol grip is for shooting from the hip. Close range and messy. DO NOT fire a shotgun from eye-level without the stock extended. Spas makes pretty things, but so does ithaca and bernelli (italians and shotguns, like belgians and assualt rifles), on the other hand I prefer something simpler:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/images/0250411.gif
pic of rhr mossberg #50411 12 ga. 500® Pump Action Persuader®, 6-shot capacity w/ 2 3/4" shells, 3" chamber, blued finish, black synthetic stock,18 1/2" cylinder bore, bead sight barrel, includes Pistol Grip Kit. I prefer the #50577 12 ga. 500® Pump 8-shot, w/20" barrel, especially tricked out with a heat shield and pistol grip/folding stock combo.
Sorry I didn't see this thread until today.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
A Franchi SPAS 12 is going to set you back at least $1500, but that's brand new. They're just a bit less than a brand spanking new Springfield Armory M-14/M1A1 which run @ $1800. For a used one you might get a deal, but I don't see a good used one being any less than say $899, and that's if you're lucky. The SPAS is a damn good shotgun but a bit too overpriced for my likes, no matter how cool it looks. I also wouldn't buy one without the folding buttstock, firing that thing from the waist can be done but I wouldn't recommend it. Usually when you do that anyhow you'd have a lower base end load like Bird Shot which clears a room easily of anyone you're going up against, and will tear a man clear in two pieces while not fucking up the real estate. And let's not mince words here, the Franchi SPAS series of shotguns were designed for a "Tactical" use against man targets, not game... though it could be used for that. I personally am a fan of the Mossberg 500 pump action in 12 gauge. But I have a nice 20 gauge (for the wife) for home defense w. 3 bird shot + 2 buckshot. If it can't be done with that I don't believe it's going to get done.
Hope this post helps you out a bit dawg.
GK
get a remington 870 12 guage police folder instead. Should set you back only $400. Great shotgun.
Speaking of guns, does anyone know how/where to obtain a glock 18? I saw a video of one a few months back and I've wanted one since.
Matt
I believe candycab had one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
go to a gun store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Force
or gunbroker.com
Fuck Glocks.
Fuck plastic.
I broke my wrist firing a spas 12 using just the pistol grip.
It was my own fault, I didn't understand the difference between a 20 gauge kick and a 12 gauge kick...it ruined my sex life for months.
You own one? Pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
Glock is the best handgun you can buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Also, fuck that spas shottie, get a Mossberg 500 p-grip = $200
Force www.topglock.com
EDIT - Matt, there is no way in hell you can get a Glock 18.
Glocks aren't the best handguns you can buy, but I guess it's a matter of preference.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonK
I've had plenty of experience with them and I don't like their feel. I hate having my guns feel like plastic toys, I don't like the way the safeties work on the ones I've used. They seem to be popular, there are a lot better choices though.
I'll stick to my tried & true .45ACP model 1911-A1 pistol. Been around since 1911, still has the best design and I wouldn't give a bucket of piss for a GLOCK. Oh they're good guns alright but I wouldn't say it's superior to the .45 Colt in it's many variations. Hell I'd take a Beretta M9 over it too. Strangely enough my favorite (.45ACP) is made in China by Norinco Arms. Those guys can sometimes make a gun better than ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonK
GK
Its all about preference, I hate how the 1911 feels in my hand... same with a Beretta - too damn top heavyQuote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly King
If I was rich I'd buy a 5-7.
It's all good. Figured it was preference based anyhow. I'm a .45 Colt man. Always have been, always will be. 10 Round magazines too, not those 7 shot ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonK
:cool:
GK
What safties?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Glock doesnt have a safety... :conf: :emb:
What's the best Beretta money can buy ?
I'm in the market for a brand new one of course.
I haven't been into guns since I moved to this country, but back home,
my parents had an arsenal, from .22's to AK47's.
I personally love this one:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/beretta92fs.jpg
I actually sold it over the summer. but you can find pics if you google it.Quote:
Originally Posted by genjiglove
And yeaah, don't try to fire a 12 guage with one hand
much less at eye level like a rifle...
hollywood and real life don't play the same way, and you'll only get fucked up trying shit you see in the movies.
The glock has A safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonK
It's that little lever on the trigger.
It disengages when you squeeze the trigger.
Basically you have to deliberately pull the trigger to fire the gun.
Kinda stupid if you ask me.
But then again I also dislike glocks.
I like THESE , Best damn handgun EVER.
As far as the spas goes, The Origonal stock is hooked.
The idea was to hook it over your arm so you could fire the weapon single handed.
Also, As GK said, They are quite costly, Not really worth it IMO.
The
FN TPS is the way to go as far as shotties are concerned.
I approve of the M1911.
Was at our GI's sides in WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam.
.45 ACP is ultimate stopping power anyway. Well at least thats how i saw HK describe the .45 auto cartridge on their website once.
heh.
If I was wanting to get a shotgun that looked nice, I'd get a nickel plated mossberg pump. That, or a nice pimp gun.
As far as I understand, the Glock 18 is a military/police issue firearm only (since it has the automatic firing mode).Quote:
Originally Posted by Force
I assume to obtain one you'd probably have to go through some, uh, shady channels.
Or simply get one of the other models of Glocks modified for auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by sQuareh4t3r
Which would still be illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ki_atsushi
You can get automatic firearms, you just have to jump through some hoops and fill out the proper paperwork.
I dont really see the point in a full auto handgun besides the cool factor. But then again i wouldnt mind owning a machine/assault pistol like the Tec-9 :kekeke:
I wouldnt reccomend owning an automatic firearm illegally, as if you get caught your going to jail for a very, very long time.
And good luck owning any firearm in california :rolleyes:
I think he meant "Modified for Semi-Auto" in his statement. I too see no point in Automatic pistols, hell automatic ANYTHING unless it's a devoted SAW or LMG. Semi-Auto is the way to go, you actually hit more or less what you're aiming at, and man sized targets aren't that hard to hit (even moving), and you've always got more ammo to spare. Blind firing is good to get yourself out of a jam but beyond that it's useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
GK
California recently lifted the ban on a lot of assault weapons, including AK's! It's all good now! Too bad my friend sold his 30 round beretta clip. It was illegal at the time he had it, but now it's not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Yeah, semi-auto is right. Thanks GK. And yes, full auto is a waste of ammo. One shot, one kill baby! :buttrock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly King
quoted for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly King
Full-auto on a handgun it's not just stupid, it's insane. I can understand trying to emulate stuff from the movies (This is my BOOMstick!) but the only example I can rember of full-auto in a pistol is Robocop's sidearm and that's only because it's freaking Robocop. SMGs are fun to cut down trees with and LGMs can punch through an engineblock but you brace them to try to get a tight burst grouping. There's no way you can do with a pistol.
Somehow I always feel strange after reading this kind of thread.
In a way I like them since I was raised with fire weapons (hunting father) so it's always nice to see good models plus I would like to test some just to see the impact.
On the other side, I'm always scared when I see the knowledge of (too) many members when it comes to use them. I mean, not only safety wise, but to use them to shoot efficiently.
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EDIT - Matt, there is no way in hell you can get a Glock 18.[/QUOTE]
This is bullshit lie. :shame:
Hellion beat me to it.
Like I said before that Hellion is fantastic.
No, Hellion is the normal Glock hating, 1911 loving caveman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
The funny thing is, I bet Hellion has never REALLY spent time with every Glock model before choosing the most comfortable one....
And in todays top stories:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...al/YtownAM.jpg
The only part of a glock that I dislike...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...k/SlugPlug.jpg
I know other pistols have these, but its very nice to have this feature at hand
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../SmartClip.jpg
The black beauty (Not SpinmasterX)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...eViewGlock.jpg
Every round, no matter how cheap it is, operates like its supposed to, no burrs or jams
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...tMachinery.jpg
REAL nightsights from Glock (BEAUTIFUL)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ightSights.jpg
The fieldstrip lever... I can tear down my gun and clean out any potential threat in less than 10 seconds
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...FieldStrip.jpg
These are the real deal - no cheap sights here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nticSights.jpg
I will NOT buy a new digital camera...
This one is fine!
Nice pics, I should really get a digital camera sometime.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonK
I don't hate Glocks, I just don't prefer them... and I've put many a round through many a Glock (I haven't spent time with "every" model though.)
I like the least amount of plastic/polymer. Don't like the way it looks, don't like the way it feels.
I would like to get a Colt Gold Cup sometime, I wonder if Hellion has one since he seems to love the style so much. That Hellion is fantastic.
Biased. :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by enomosiki
You'll surrender in no time weilding that around here. :kekeke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephane
I <3 the 1911, the US Gov even loosened the machining tolerances for desert duty. Can't beat the versitility.
i will cut your head before :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnaflux
lmao - stephane, stop living in cloud cucu land.