George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People

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You're Goddamn right George W. Bush doesn't care about black people. Only Stinky Dinkins does. How do you think he got that name???

He does now that his aproval rating is in the latrine.

George Bush Never really gave a fuck about Poor People or Blacks because he has had everything handed to him in life. He really belives that he has earned everything he has through hard work.

This is all typical of the people in charge of the repulican party. They think that they can dump just affirmitive action is they don't understand what it's like to be black. They think that all poor people are just lazy becuase they never grew up on the other side of the tracks. They have this Rugged individualist attitue when they themselves have had so much handed to them.

Wealth is not usualy earned, it's inheritied.

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Originally Posted by norton9478

George Bush Never really gave a fuck about Poor People or Blacks because he has had everything handed to him in life. He really belives that he has earned everything he has through hard work.

This is all typical of the people in charge of the repulican party. They think that they can dump just affirmitive action is they don't understand what it's like to be black. They think that all poor people are just lazy becuase they never grew up on the other side of the tracks. They have this Rugged individualist attitue when they themselves have had so much handed to them.

Wealth is not usualy earned, it's inheritied.

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From my experience it's this way throughout the republican party.

I just heard another song from a rapper named Papoose entited "Mother Nature." Makes me sad again. :(

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Originally Posted by norton9478

This is all typical of the people in charge of the repulican party. They think that they can dump just affirmitive action is they don't understand what it's like to be black. They think that all poor people are just lazy becuase they never grew up on the other side of the tracks. They have this Rugged individualist attitue when they themselves have had so much handed to them.

Wealth is not usualy earned, it's inheritied.

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It sounds like you've been listening to too much NPR. I should know, I've been listening too (as usual)... except I'm not so easy to bend.

I was listening to some Open Source nonsense last night with Marcellus Andrews and he was spouting similar ridiculousness (the same thing they've been saying for years.)

You're not too familiar with the other side, it's embarrassingly obvious every time you rant. Here's a word of advice - when your experience with the "other side" amounts to what those on your side are saying you look foolish to all but those already in agreement with you. If you're going to be sensible politically you really should know your "enemy" more than you do now (which amounts to very little.)

I really don't care about black people either. Aren't they African Americans now?

Hey norton, I agree with the Evil Republican Conspiracy™ and I'm sitting right on the poverty line.


All Republicans are they same, no? I hear all liberals like to suck dick.

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

It sounds like you've been listening to too much NPR. I should know, I've been listening too (as usual)... except I'm not so easy to bend.

I was listening to some Open Source ridiculousness last night with Marcellus Andrews and he was spouting similar ridiculousness (the same thing they've been saying for years.)

You're not too familiar with the other side, it's embarrassingly obvious every time you rant. Here's a word of advice - when your experience with the "other side" amounts to what those on your side are saying you look foolish to all but those already in agreement with you. If you're going to be sensible politically you really should know your "enemy" more than you do now (which is very little.)

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Maybe you have been listneing to too much Rush. :oh_no:

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Maybe you have been listneing to too much Rush. :oh_no:

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I don't listen to Rush (as in at all.) He's hypocritical trash.

People listen to political talk for one or more of the following three reasons (starting from most to least common):

1: To reaffirm what they already know without actually learning anything new or delving too much into the philosophy of the opposition (Rush falls mostly into this category.)

2: To listen to someone they tend to align with despite the fact that presented information/philosophy might conflict with what they believe (John Batchelor is great for this, especially with the factual info. Severin to a lesser extent).

3: To "know their enemy." Very few people do this, when they disagree with a given program's direction they tend to ignore it completely and stick to their guns because it's frustrating to listen to someone who's capable of proving you wrong. For me NPR is great for this along with most of the cable news channels.

#1 is useless despite being the most popular.

I never thought of NPR as being liberal.

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Originally Posted by Magnaflux

I never thought of NPR as being liberal.

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If you ask an average liberal person they're as "unbiased and independent" as one can get. If you ask a conservative they're blatantly liberal. If you're liberal or moderate when listening you're not likely to pick up on its liberal slant because you tend to agree with what they're saying and move on - same with a Conservative minded viewer and Fox News. They do a good job act fact based reporting sometimes... but often what they present is meant to favor their largely left philosophy. When it comes to all the opinion shit it's clear they're of the left.

Independent journalism is dead.

NPR is liberal.

Political Dinkins, ladies and gentlemen.

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Political Dinkins, ladies and gentlemen.

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Originally Posted by norton9478

George Bush Never really gave a fuck about Poor People or Blacks because he has had everything handed to him in life. He really belives that he has earned everything he has through hard work.

This is all typical of the people in charge of the repulican party. They think that they can dump just affirmitive action is they don't understand what it's like to be black. They think that all poor people are just lazy becuase they never grew up on the other side of the tracks. They have this Rugged individualist attitue when they themselves have had so much handed to them.

Wealth is not usualy earned, it's inheritied.

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this is true, really

however, as long as I hate Bush and that bunch of fucking rednecks that form his administartion, this applies to both parts

John Kerry and Al Gore (just as an example) are pure, wealthy wasps comiing from very important families.
do you think they give a fuck about the poors, or the african-americans??

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Originally Posted by kaos

this is true, really

however, as long as I hate Bush and that bunch of fucking rednecks that form his administartion, this applies to both parts

John Kerry and Al Gore (just as an example) are pure, wealthy wasps comiing from very important families.
do you think they give a fuck about the poors, or the african-americans??

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Why would they be overly concerned with African Americans? With dual citizenship, they can chose to live and be a citizen in the US or back home.

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

If you ask an average liberal person they're as "unbiased and independent" as one can get. If you ask a conservative they're blatantly liberal. If you're liberal or moderate when listening you're not likely to pick up on its liberal slant because you tend to agree with what they're saying and move on - same with a Conservative minded viewer and Fox News. They do a good job act fact based reporting sometimes... but often what they present is meant to favor their largely left philosophy. When it comes to all the opinion shit it's clear they're of the left.

Independent journalism is dead.

NPR is liberal.

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I believe Dinkins to be correct, it is most certainly a matter of perception. I have been a devout NPR listener for 10 years now, hell during their Prius fund drives, I've even pledged money for a chance at that car. IMO, there really isn't anything else worth listening to on the radio other than news anymore, and even that is depressing.

Usually by default, journalism, telling "the real story", shock value, etc; all things that may come from the media has a moderate-liberal tilt. But if you ask me, who the hell cares.

The media keeps governments in check.

And GWB is the worst president that I can remember, even despite the hardships handed to the guy. But from my surface down to my core, I disagree with almost everything he believes in.

I dont care about black people, does that make me a bad person?
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NPR doesn't bash conservatives the way Rush and the like bash liberals.

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Originally Posted by Weevus

NPR doesn't bash conservatives the way Rush and the like bash liberals.

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If you're trying to argue that Conservatives bash Liberals more than Liberals bash Conservatives you're fighting a losing battle.

I've listened to plenty of opinion segments on NPR where conservatives were "bashed" (I guess it all depends on how you define "bashed.") The thing is NPR is more versatile whereas Rush is just one dude with one tired old program. What do you mean by "Rush and the like?" The entire Conservative media? The flipside of that is the "Liberal media and the like..." meaning many, many other liberal outlets. Are you even listening to them? Are you claiming the Liberal media doesn't bash Conservatives?

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Originally Posted by norton9478

George Bush Never really gave a fuck about Poor People or Blacks because he has had everything handed to him in life. He really belives that he has earned everything he has through hard work.

This is all typical of the people in charge of the repulican party. They think that they can dump just affirmitive action is they don't understand what it's like to be black. They think that all poor people are just lazy becuase they never grew up on the other side of the tracks. They have this Rugged individualist attitue when they themselves have had so much handed to them.

Wealth is not usualy earned, it's inheritied.

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Please stop saying such stupid and easily disproveable things.

http://www.alwayson-network.com/comm...=P4722_0_6_0_C

The truth is that most millionares come from having little to nothing, with only a small portion of people inheriting their wealth.

Black people don't care about me. :crying:

1. NPR is not LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE... They report on issues that concern most Progressives. But thier news is not nessacarily liberal. They also have a penchant for the arts which apeals to so called liberals. But site me one thing they do or say that is profoundly LIBERAL. Air America is Liberal. The only reasonably objective show on Air America is the Al Franken Show. While he has a definite axe to grind, he or his co-host do try to maintain some form of integrety and objectivity. But Al's about as progressive as you can get. And He's entertaining and his show is informative.

2. @magnaflux I was talking about the republican party leadership. I think you will find them to be overwhealmingly privlaged. AS IS THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP. Somehow, despite thier priviledged upbringing, the DEMS can muster up just enough empathy to convince everyone that they are on the side of the impoverished. EMPATHY, try that one republicans and you might get more than 13% of the black vote. Be Like Bill Clinton and just fake it. And I never claimed an evil repulican conspiracy. Your putting words in my mouth.

3. About Wealth earned VS Wealth Inherited. The advantages you get by being born wealthy just make it that much easier to achieve so much in life. You get to go to the good Schools (Even public ones), you have backers when you go into buisness. In college you can concentrate on your studies (or coke) because you don't have to work a job to pay for books. It takes money to make money. Or at least connections not available to the bottom end.

Outside of athletes and entertainers, I would like to know how many millionares grew up with nothing. And how many more are among the top 1%

There still are self made men/women, but no-one does it alone. You have many people to thank Parents (rich or poor), teachers or investors who put thier faith in you. Even the most impoverished people really have no Idea of how bad they have it. I've worked alongside the working poor for many years doing shit jobs.

4. Rush Limbaugh only does what he does because he couldn't make it as a Sportscaster back in the 80's (and recently). He doesn't belive half the shit he says. It's all an act. Michael Savage is the same way but he wanted to be a comedian, and he is.

Kanye is a fag who only said that to get his name in the open. If I ever see him I'm gonna crush a pepsi can on his bald head.

Bush is a moron. He doesn't care about anything. If anything you can say he equally doesn't care. I'm not even certain Bush knows what a black person is.

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1. NPR is not LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE... They report on issues that concern most Progressives. But thier news is not nessacarily liberal. They also have a penchant for the arts which apeals to so called liberals. But site me one thing they do or say that is profoundly LIBERAL. Air America is Liberal. The only reasonably objective show on Air America is the Al Franken Show. While he has a definite axe to grind, he or his co-host do try to maintain some form of integrety and objectivity. But Al's about as progressive as you can get. And He's entertaining and his show is informative.

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Isn't that odd that I was able to peg you as a NPR listener based on that one little rant? Probably because it's the same shit aired over and over again without adequate (by that I mean enough to call it "unbiased") attention given to "the other side." Their attempt to cover multiple points of view is pathetic and clearly slanted (much like certain Conservative stations with weakly-represented liberal opinions,) there's a reason you can't pick up on the lean - because you happen to agree with it. Don't you think it's odd Conservatives sometimes refuse to acknowledge a Conservative bias in their preferred media outlets while liberals do the same for those they support? Liberal media is far likely to admit to their bias than are their conservative counterparts.

There's a reason Liberals tend to love NPR and Conservatives tend to loathe it - people like to listen to what reinforces their beliefs.

I'm a conservative, I listen to NPR. It's clear which way they slant. You're not a Conservative, you refuse to acknowledge the slant because to you that would make the source seem less credible. If I made the same claim about Fox News or any other Conservative media source you'd laugh at me.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/b...20031022.shtml


PS: Michael Savage is fucking hilarious, but he doesn't want to be a comedian. I laugh at him, not with him. I was listening a while back and he was talking about his dog (named Tippy) and how great it was. He said, in all seriousness "That's what America needs. 100 more Patriotic Tippies." I think he's on some sort of meds. Fucking love that guy.

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Isn't that odd that I was able to peg you as a NPR listener based on that one little rant? Probably because it's the same shit aired over and over again without adequate (by that I mean enough to call it "unbiased") attention given to "the other side." Their attempt to cover multiple points of view is pathetic and clearly slanted (much like certain Conservative stations with weakly-represented liberal opinions,) there's a reason you can't pick up on the lean - because you happen to agree with it. Don't you think it's odd Conservatives sometimes refuse to acknowledge a Conservative bias in their preferred media outlets while liberals do the same for those they support? Liberal media is far likely to admit to their bias than are their conservative counterparts.

There's a reason Liberals tend to love NPR and Conservatives tend to loathe it - people like to listen to what reinforces their beliefs.

I'm a conservative, I listen to NPR. It's clear which way they slant. You're not a Conservative, you refuse to acknowledge the slant because to you that would make the source seem less credible. If I made the same claim about Fox News or any other Conservative media source you'd laugh at me.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/b...20031022.shtml


PS: Michael Savage is fucking hilarious, but he doesn't want to be a comedian. I laugh at him, not with him. I was listening a while back and he was talking about his dog (named Tippy) and how great it was. He said, in all seriousness, that's what America needs. 100 more Patriotic Tippies." I think he's on some sort of meds. Fucking love that guy.

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1. If you ask people who is the most credible for news, Public Radio and Public Televison usualy is near the top.

2. You clearly listen to more NPR than I do. I don't listen to it very often. So why would you listen to such a biased source? There has to be some programming that entertains you in a possitive way. I doubt you listen to NPR for the same reason I listen to Rush Limbaugh.

3. Michael Savage used to want to be a comedian in the vein of Lenny Bruce. IN some ways he succeeded, In some ways he's a failure. He's also wanted to be a hundred other things. The only thing he has been successfull at is creating the Micheal Savage Charecter and turning it into a job. Some people take him seriously. He's the same as ALI-G. But I find Savage to be a funnier person.

4. I have never said that The FOX news News Service is not credible. It's just thier talk shows that lack real credibility. They let two ex-entertainment newscasters present news and have talk shows about news. It's a joke. At least Jerry Springer (Air America Show host) has experiance in public service.

5. NPR really does not talk politics or policy in the same way that any other outlet does. So it's apples to Oarges.

6. Everyone should torrent the SNL sketch "Conspiracy Theory Rock" if you want my oppinion on the Mainstream "Libearl Media."

Nobody cares about anybody. We are born alone and die alone!

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1. If you ask people who is the most credible for news, Public Radio and Public Televison usualy is near the top.

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Ask "people?"

Ask a Conservative. Ask a liberal. You'll get two different responses. There's a reason for this.

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2. You clearly listen to more NPR than I do. I don't listen to it very often. So why would you listen to such a biased source? There has to be some programming that entertains you in a possitive way. I doubt you listen to NPR for the same reason I listen to Rush Limbaugh.

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Because at work I'm bored as fuck and Conservative sources purposefully omit things that they think are damaging to their philosophy (just like the Liberal ones.) That makes for retarded political beliefs.

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3. Michael Savage used to want to be a comedian in the vein of Lenny Bruce. IN some ways he succeeded, In some ways he's a failure. He's also wanted to be a hundred other things. The only thing he has been successfull at is creating the Micheal Savage Charecter and turning it into a job. Some people take him seriously. He's the same as ALI-G

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I didn't know that... he never mentions it on his show. He's not all fun and games though - he does have a PhD. He's funny as Hell but listening to him it's clear he's deadly serious even when he goes way overboard. He's just a very old, very angry man.

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5. NPR really does not talk politics or policy in the same way that any other outlet does. So it's apples to Oarges.

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No, they're not funded like any other outlet is so they don't have to.

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6. Everyone should torrent the SNL sketch "Conspiracy Theory Rock" if you want my oppinion on the Mainstream "Libearl Media."

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SNL is retarded.

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

SNL is retarded.

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It's a Robert Smigel cartoon.

Robert Smigel ownz.


Except for Triumph the insult commic. triumph hasn't been funny since he Left Conan.

Besides, you wil probably take a liking to the "Conspiracy Theory Rock" cartoon. It spoofs the Media Conspiracy theorists while getting thier message accross. And it makes fun of GE.

Robert Smigel>SOuth Park guys.

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1. If you ask people who is the most credible for news, Public Radio and Public Televison usualy is near the top.

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I absolutely love broad statements that provide no detailed facts and that attempt to establish opinions as some sort of studied facts.

Triumph is on SNL now? I haven't watched it since all the funny people left. Used to be so fucking funny, they should put it to sleep instead of letting it suffer.

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Triumph is on SNL now? I haven't watched it since all the funny people left. Used to be so fucking funny, they should put it to sleep instead of letting it suffer.

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Nah, he's an example of a Robert Smigel Creation that isn't all that funny. I don't even know if Smigel does work for SNL anymore. It's an old sketch.

And here's some background on Micheal Savage if you can stomach the source.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/03/05/savage/

Imagine him going swimming naked with Alan Ginsberg next time he goes onto some stupid rant.

I'm almost certain that Savage was behind the Aluminum pots/Pans cause disease scare. But I can't confirm that easily.

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I absolutely love broad statements that provide no detailed facts and that attempt to establish opinions as some sort of studied facts.

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I will try to find you a definite source. But I remember this being brought up in a PBS meeting broadcast on CSPAN.

And it's based on Polling in case you don't know......


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Ive done some research and it varies from source to source. The Perceived Credibility of PBS's newservice has taken a hit among republicans ever since a cartoon rabit on a kiddie show happened to visit a pair women who owned a maple farm.

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Ive done some research and it varies from source to source. The Perceived Credibility of PBS's newservice has taken a hit among republicans ever since a cartoon rabit on a kiddie show happened to visit a pair women who owned a maple farm.

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Oh come on, they hated PBS's politics long before that.

The faggotry on children's shows just put glue over the nails in the coffin.

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Oh come on, they hated PBS's politics long before that.

The faggotry on children's shows just put glue over the nails in the coffin.

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1. PBS's credibility ratings have fallen sharply among repulicans over the last few years. And So has NPR. But their news has pretty much remained at the same level.

2. PBS (and to a lesser extent NPR) is just really a victim of a smear campaign propogated by some small groups of people. Some of these people even went as far as to say that Spongebob was being used to promote acceptance of HOMOSEXUALITY. NOTE: the Bunny never even mentioned HOMOSEX and the gayness was not appearant to anyone under the age of 12.

I've never found PBS's news to be biased. NOt even to the same level as NPR. It's pretty much, we present, you decide.

And even most repulican politicians are cautious when they approach the idea of cutting PBS's funding for this very reason. And because they don't want to be the politician who killed barney or the teletubies (Back to #2).

Another thread bites the dust!

/me watusis

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2. PBS (and to a lesser extent NPR) is just really a victim of a smear campaign propogated by some small groups of people. Some of these people even went as far as to say that Spongebob was being used to promote acceptance of HOMOSEXUALITY. NOTE: the Bunny never even mentioned HOMOSEX and the gayness was not appearant to anyone under the age of 12.

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Spongebob is blatantly gay.

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Another thread bites the dust!

/me watusis

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IF we didn't start the usual blah blah blah in this thread, then it would have bit the dust after a max of 2 posts. Go back and see how it all started.

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IF we didn't start the usual blah blah blah in this thread, then it would have bit the dust after a max of 2 posts. Go back and see how it all started.

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I'd rather not, lets start a religious debate! :envy:

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I'd rather not, lets start a religious debate! :envy:

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Jesus>Muhamad

George Bush does not care about Islams.

Actually it is democrats who don't give a damm about
blacks. They only remember them during election time.
Bush has put more blacks in high office than any of his
predecesors, even Clinton. Also, black home ownership
is higher under Bush.

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Actually it is democrats who don't give a damm about
blacks. They only remember them during election time.
Bush has put more blacks in high office than any of his
predecesors, even Clinton.

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Some Masters had more slaves in the house than others.

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Also, black home ownership
is higher under Bush.

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And your point would Be?

If you look at Home ownership trends over the last 10 years, Black home ownership rates have increased at about the same rate as for all other races.

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Originally Posted by Electroman

I believe Dinkins to be correct, it is most certainly a matter of perception. I have been a devout NPR listener for 10 years now, hell during their Prius fund drives, I've even pledged money for a chance at that car. IMO, there really isn't anything else worth listening to on the radio other than news anymore, and even that is depressing.

Usually by default, journalism, telling "the real story", shock value, etc; all things that may come from the media has a moderate-liberal tilt. But if you ask me, who the hell cares.

The media keeps governments in check.

And GWB is the worst president that I can remember, even despite the hardships handed to the guy. But from my surface down to my core, I disagree with almost everything he believes in.

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I think the news shows on NPR aren't liberal, but shows like "Prarie home companion" or in Baltimore "Mark Steiner show" are definitely liberal. I give the liberal programming on NPR credit though in that the hosts aren't assholes. They give the other side a chance to make their points. NPR is intelligent radio.

But the reason I quote electroman is because he's dead on that Bush is the worst president in this country's history. He's just a moron. Even if he had a strong policy, I still think he would fail because he doesn't have any personal ability. If he wasn't a rich kid, he would be an insurance salesman somewhere.

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Originally Posted by IMTheWalrus

Bush is the worst president in this country's history

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Ahahahahaha.

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Originally Posted by avulon

Actually it is democrats who don't give a damm about
blacks. They only remember them during election time.
Bush has put more blacks in high office than any of his
predecesors, even Clinton. Also, black home ownership
is higher under Bush.

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I've heard this argument before. It's bullshit. Because some rich black republicans are in the cabinet, people think that Bush is really pro civil rights. Both parties pander to the minorities for votes.

To say it's the democrats who push down blacks is foolish. Wasn't there a republican guy named Strom Thurmand (sp) who was in favor of segregation and another guy named Trent Lott who thought he should have been president?

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I've heard this argument before. It's bullshit. Because some rich black republicans are in the cabinet, people think that Bush is really pro civil rights. Both parties pander to the minorities for votes.

To say it's the democrats who push down blacks is foolish. Wasn't there a republican guy named Strom Thurmand (sp) who was in favor of segregation and another guy named Trent Lott who thought he should have been president?

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What party continues to trap blacks into a cycle of dependence using federal hand out programs?

Look at New Orleans. What party did that city exist under for the longest fucking time? How was liberalism treating those people?

What party did Thurmond belong to before he denounced his segregationalist outlook?

1. Bush is not the worst president of all time. But he rivials some of the Cronniest presidents of the late 1800's

2. Don't forget the party of Lincoln Stinky.

3. The whole wellfare bla bla bla cycle bla bla bla is a moot point since republicans don't have a fucking plan to end it other than "End Wellfare". Makes a lot of fucking sense.

4. NO and LOuisiana is hardly liberal.

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What party continues to trap blacks into a cycle of dependence using federal hand out programs?

Look at New Orleans. What party did that city exist under for the longest fucking time? How was liberalism treating those people?

What party did Thurmond belong to before he denounced his segregationalist outlook?

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Thurmond is a Republican conservative, to suggest otherwise is silly. He's aligned himself with that party.

I don't think that the federal programs "trap" blacks. It's not fun living on welfare I'm guessing. Not to mention the fact that welfare was actually made smaller under Clinton. I honestly think the Republican pundits came up with this argument to just piss off white people.

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1. Bush is not the worst president of all time. But he rivials some of the Cronniest presidents of the late 1800's

2. Don't forget the party of Lincoln Stinky.

3. The whole wellfare bla bla bla cycle bla bla bla is a moot point since republicans don't have a fucking plan to end it other than "End Wellfare". Makes a lot of fucking sense.

4. NO and LOuisiana is hardly liberal.

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The party Lincoln belonged to no longer exists. He was a Republican, a "progressive" Republican.

Welfare isn't working. How much proof do people need? I'm not saying it needs to to be abolished (since that is virtually impossible - it's a pipe dream) but it needs to be drastically altered. It's a lot like alcohol at this point - chronic abuse (which is rampant) leads to dependence. No one has the balls to touch it because of the liberal backlash.

"NO is hardly liberal." Have you been smoking crack? What the fuck are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by IMTheWalrus

Thurmond is a Republican conservative, to suggest otherwise is silly. He's aligned himself with that party.

I don't think that the federal programs "trap" blacks. It's not fun living on welfare I'm guessing. Not to mention the fact that welfare was actually made smaller under Clinton. I honestly think the Republican pundits came up with this argument to just piss off white people.

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Thurmond was a Democrat when he was a segregationalist.

Clinton's "welfare reform" was a joke.