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yeah i've seen it before, and I believe its been posted. But its definately news that they're selling them at gamestop now. These Messiah folks are the same ones who made the RF wireless NES controllers, as well as SNES I believe.
Pretty cool unit. Although from the pic I cant tell if you insert the cart by opening the front door ala the original NES, or if it is a top loader.
Who would have ever guessed Messiah, the guys with trucker hats at OKGE would have a product in Gamestop....
The NEX plays both Famicom and NES games. There are two slots in the system for it.
I'm glad to see this as well. I don't know if I'll pick one up or anything, but I really like their wireless controllers for the NES.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamejunkie
If it plays the music on my Japanese Castlevania III copy, I'll get it.
I;m having second thoughts about selling my collection.
If it can support both 4 player NES and famicom games I'll buy one. I'm sick of having my NES take up space for the sole purpose of playing Crash n' the Boys: Street Challenge with 4 other people... but the 4 score won't work with my 4 player famicom games so I have to have a sepparate system for that (each with their own accessories taking up more space).
...and I hope that "wired controller" is not hard-wired to the back of the console like the famicom systems. That picture makes me a little uneasy about that matter.
By the way, my only experience with wireless controllers comes from the NES days - and they were horrible. Anyone familiar with these messiah wireless controllers? I love to keep a tidy area as much as I can - wouldn't mind knocking out some cords.
i saw this before.
i emailed them about enhanced video out like rgb and svideo hey said:
[/QUOTE] It would have been too expensive for games that were not developed with this in mind. The only NES/Famicom system that exists with dedicated S Video is the Famicom Titler. Even with this, it does not have much of a difference between S and Composite on the big screen.
Jason Wilson
Account Support Manager
Nubytech
1640 5th Street
Santa Monica, CA 90401
(310) 460-2588
FAX-(310) 388-5862[/QUOTE]
if thats the case ill pass i dont need a 3rd nes that bad for just wireless controllers.
some advanced nes related mods
this guy made a playchoice 10 bios to play normal nes roms
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze...0/pc_10nes.htm
more rgb info
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/580/580315p1.html
i think people with the right skills(tototek+friends) can do this rgb mod to get nes clones to run games with better video.
here is the stereo nes mod
http://www.zyx.com/chrisc/nesstereo.html
sounds easy for the skilled people.
i would pay good money for a nes that does all this.
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Originally Posted by ForeverSublime
Seriously, buy the Messiah controllers. They use similar technology as the Wavebird. They're about the best you can get.
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Originally Posted by ForeverSublime
Its not.
See more pics and info HERE.
Does it have controller ports for regular wired pads? Is the slot for NES carts on the top or in the front?
Anyone have first hand experience as far as reliability/durability is concerned? Can the connector be swapped easily if it goes bad?
Does it have the special sound chips or whatever to play Castlevania 3?
What Audio/Video out jacks are on that fucker?
From the FAQ :
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Q: What video connections are available?
A: Composite. Audio L, Audio R, Video
Q: Will it support S-Video?
A: No, because the old software won't support S-video. We could have converted the AV outputs to S-video but it would have added a lot of cost and given no benefit to the video quality.
Q: Is the Generation NEX a clone (NOAC) or does it have all of the components of an actual NES inside?
A: NEX is a clone and cannot use the actual NES IC because it is not licensed by Nintendo. (see next)
Q: Does it contain custom ICs, or is it based around the NOAC [NES-on-a-chip] that most "clone" consoles are based around?
A: Our IC is a custom designed IC that is built on the NES algorithm. Every attention to detail has been spent on compatibility.
Q: Will Generation NEX produce an RGB video signal?
A: No.
Q: Will the pin connectors last longer than the original system?
A: Yes, absolutely. Both the Japanese and US cartridge slots on the Generation NEX use a direct connection. The primary reason the original “toaster” NES wore out is because the connectors did not directly connect to the cartridge and the up and down motion wore out the connection.
Q: Does this system play the music from Akumajou Densetsu (the japanese version of Castlevania III) correctly?
A: We cannot confirm 100% at this time because we are still in the testing phase for the Generation NEX. We are committed to acheiving the highest compatibility possible. Those that saw us last year at CGE know that we delayed our wireless controllers because we had compatibility problems with about 11 games. Once we corrected the issue we released the product.
Q: Will the Generation NEX console be capable of playing Australian/U.K. releases such as Mr. Gimmick, Ufouria, etc?
A: In Testing. Same as above.
Q: Can I play NTSC games and PAL games?
A: In Testing. Same as above.
Accessories
Q: Will the system be able to use any of the licensed Nintendo accessories, such as the Zapper gun or NES Advantage controller?
A: Yes. There are two controller ports for use with all your favorite original NES accessories including the four-player adapter and Zapper light gun.
Q: Is there Game Genie support (i.e., can it fit in the cartridge slot)?
A: In Testing.
Q: Will the receiver for the NES Satellite fit in the Generation NEX?
A: In Testing.
Q: Will the AC cable for the Generation NEX be able to plug into official Nes and SNES consoles?
A: No. The Generation NEX comes with a new Messiah AC plug specially designed for the NEX hardware. The NEX runs on lower power requirements than the original NES so the included AC will not be able to power the original NES. We do sell on our store a universal voltage AC adapter that works with both the NES and SNES.
Features
Q: How does the stereo sound feature work?
A: NES games have mono soundtracks. The NEX does have a right and left channel but sends the mono signal out both left and right channels. This being said… the console is built to support stereo output for future plans...
Q: Which slot is for NES games?
A: The front slot accepts NES games. The opening on the top of the system receives FamiCom games. Both slots feature direct connections to the hardware.
Q: What's the purpose of the built-in 2.4GHz wireless support?
A: Built-in 2.4GHz wireless support brings Next Generation technology to retro gaming; that's what Messiah is all about. With Messiah's Generation NEX wireless controllers, you will be able to play without pluging receivers into the controller ports.
Other
Q: Will the Generation NEX be available for delivery to the UK?
A: Yes. We export to the UK on a per-customer basis. Please contact us if you are interested in ordering the Generation NEX and live outside of the United States.
Q: Are you planning on ever releasing a wireless zapper?
A: We're not ruling it out...could be.
Q: Are you planning an SNES console?
A: Not at this time.
Q: Is there a possiblity that we'll see new NES releases for games that were once cancelled?
A: We're not ruling it out...could be.
Q: Will there be any kind of exchange service where I could trade in my old NES system for a new Generation NEX upon release?
A: Great idea, but Messiah Entertainment is unable to fulfill this as an option at this time.
Q: Do I have to pre-order to be able to pick up a console at CGE2k5?
A: Yes, it's highly likely that there will only be enough units at the show to accomodate pre-orders. Additional supplies will be limited. If you choose to wait to see the console first hand before you buy, you will be able to order at the show and have the Generation NEX shipped to your home in September.
Q: What is the offical release date in September?
A: An exact date has not yet been set. We will notify any pre-orders of the date their product will ship as soon as the information becomes available.
Q: Will the price change after September?
A: Pricing is subject to change
Did they ever decide to do a Neo stick?
What do they mean by "direct connection?"Quote:
Q: Will the pin connectors last longer than the original system?
A: Yes, absolutely. Both the Japanese and US cartridge slots on the Generation NEX use a direct connection. The primary reason the original “toaster” NES wore out is because the connectors did not directly connect to the cartridge and the up and down motion wore out the connection.
You'll still have to shove the carts in and pull them out... that would fuck up the pins just like before right? How could it be any different?
EDIT: Will it be that the connectors will have something that run into the lips of the cartridge and prevent if from moving up and down when putting the game in and pulling it out? If the connector does go bad the system is shot since it uses a proprietary connector I guess.
I guess I'll preorder this biatch, it looks pretty sweet. Hopefully it runs Castlevania 3 perfectly...
we've preordered some of these to sell in store.
i'm curious to see if people are gonna be interested in them.
Hmmm. I'm a bit skeptical about the D-pad on those wireless controllers. The wired controller comes with a slightly more traditional d-pad, so I suppose there's no way to play-test the wireless style setup without plunking 30$ for the wireless controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnaflux
looking at the pictures on lik-sang.com , it looks like this has TWO slots; one 60 pin and 1 72 pin. Thats just what I see, but I may be wrong...
I can't imagine the average consumer being interested in this new system - it seems everyone interested has some special desire that needs to be taken care of, and according to the FAQ - everything is "in testing". Less than a month before release and there's no word if X Y or Z will work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Yeah, one for NES and one for Famicom.Quote:
Originally Posted by pistolsniper
Yeah I'll probably wait until the system has received some reliable feedback before I drop 60 bucks on the thing. I have plenty of NES/Famicom systems lying around so all this thing has to offer is the cool factor and being able to play US/Japanese games on the same system without a clunky converter. If it doesn't play the games I want it to play it becomes no more than a flashy paperweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverSublime
Looks pretty good, but I don't think my poor TV can handle another system lying around it. Very nice-looking unit though - sleek and compact.
I am pretty sure that the FAQ hasn't been updated in a few months since around the e3 time period.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverSublime
True, but if I didn't spin my post I wouldn't have had the place to sound like an ungrateful ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by broken
I would assume it uses a conector like the second gen NES, which seems to have little problems compaired to the toaster style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
I think it's all a bunch of marketing hype. The NES connector is made just like the MVS or a Jamma connector. I guess the springing action that the NES cart did "might" have atributed to the connector wearing out, but I doubt it. The NES connector is a giant right angle riser made out of plastic that bends when you pull the cart down (with the connection leads running through it). If your NES (or this NEX console) ever stops making connection you can bend the pins back with a small screwdriver and it will work every time. I have done this and it's like having a new system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Stinky if I was you (having money to burn) I'd buy one and a wireless controller, then post a review with pictures! :D
The system can use wireless controllers from Play Messiah and standard NES controllers which is a plus. As for the Castlevania 3 music, why is the game so unique to if it will play or not?
The more likely scenario is me buying one, telling no one, and running off into the sunset while you fuckers are left to guess what it can and can't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamejunkie
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Originally Posted by Highlander67
It had a special sound chip in the famicom cart.
Makes it sound better than other NES games.
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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Hmm could the NES play this game with a standard converter?
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Originally Posted by gamejunkie
IT's nothing like a Jamma connector. One bad connection on a NES cart and everything gets fucked.
I know that a NEW NES connector can make a fucking shitload of a difference.
Rules to make a new NES 72 Pin connector working for a long time:
1. Clean new games before putting them in.
2. Never leave a Game in when not being played.
3. Try to avoid using a Game Genie.
4. Clean Games regularly.
I swapped out the 72 pin connectors in a couple of my front loading NES's quite a while back. They work like charms but it's so hard to get the games in and out (they're much tighter than the factory connectors.)
No more blinking screen. Rock your fucking socks off.
That being said I end up playing the roms on my XBox with a Saturn pad.
I'm not talking like that... I'm talking physically. The actual spring pins that connect to the board/cart.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
Yeah but the Nes is much more sensitive. The pins are smaller and that whole spring shit really creates havok.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamejunkie
The NES is probably the worst designed game loading system.
And the Top Load NES has sub-par AV even with the mod.
I haven't played it, but I remember reading that it would play but wouldn't have the stereo sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Highlander67
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Originally Posted by redrum666
The Generation NEX is a sexy lil number. I pre-ordered mine about 2 weeks ago, hoping I could get one of the extra stock was sold at the Classic Gaming Expo.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2...famicom7vv.jpg
http://img1.imageshack.us/img1/8135/...lair0034eb.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/767...its02fc7or.jpg
Got everything I need right here ^
:buttrock:
...though if you don't have an AV FAMICOM, that clone does look nice.
GK
I hear the SAMSHO II plays like utter shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly King
Compared to Master Fighter II (Street Fighter II) the game controls like a dream. But yeah, the controls could be better. It's simply about owning oddities is all. The downscaled 8-Bit Super Mario World is pretty cool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
GK
'nuff said.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
My bad.. I used a double negative.... Check the edit.Quote:
Originally Posted by pistolsniper
Gamestop contradicts itself. First they say they stop selling NES, SNES, and Gen games and now there selling the messiah. Will somebody save them? I now there selling for about 20 bucks at ebay.:loco:Quote:
Originally Posted by redrum666
I never knew that the boot SSII was released in cart form. I just figured that it ended up on a 100000 in one cart/system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly King
Ever play the KOF 99 in Rom or Cart form?????????
The graphics are pretty sick.
Is there any good places to send in an old NES to get it fixed up, or an FAQ on how to do it yourself? My NES is from 85' and I took good care of it, but in 99' I had a house fire and it doesn't work anymore. I need to give it a good cleaning and I know a new 72 pin connector would work wonders on it.
Yeah, I'm not one of those english nuts... but that ... I have something against double negatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
Is this a terribly IMPORTANT nes, if not, just dump it, and buy another one, but... www.lik-sang.com sells replacement 72 pin connectors I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by YuckMud
1. Buy a 72 pin connector.Quote:
Originally Posted by YuckMud
2. Take apart the NES.
3. Everything should be self explanitory for there.
No soldering or wireing.
Castlevania III is not the only reason I got my eye on this Gen NEX.
I also happen to own an actual copy of Lagrange Point which is also from Konami. The chip in it is way more powerful than CV3.
I mean hear for yourselves. Sounds like fuckin' PC Engine/TG16 rather than Famicom.
http://media.putfile.com/Lagrange-Point-15_31
Namco also has several chipped games that could almost pull it off.
So the fire made it stop working? Or did it just gradually quit?Quote:
Originally Posted by YuckMud
Here's how I fixed mine:
http://www.classicgaming.com/feature...les/nesrepair/
Free and easy.
.
Thanks for the link Gamerjunky. The fire didn't stop the NES from working, it's just very old and doesn't work as well as it used to. I want to keep it because it's my NES from when I was 5 years old and I don't want sombody elses used NES.
So I think I'll buy a 72 pin connector and a can of compressed air and go to town on it.