New Revolution info!

From the latest issue of EGM:

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-Shiggy says that the graphics on REV won't be inferior to those on PS3 or 360; they're not making light of the visuals, they're trying to achieve balance
EDIT: -They still dont' feel HD is necassary or accessible by all EDIT but 480p will be standard
-The DVD capability isn't an attachement, it's built into the console
-There is no Ethernet port, but an attachement is possible via USB
-They're thinking about Super Smash Bros. for the DS
-They want to use Luigi again as a starring role, possibly in a Luigi's Mansion type game again
-Pikmin would be a good match for Revolution's interface, so they'd like to do it
-They want to do something with Stage Debut
-It's possible older multiplayer games may be given online modes when they're dowloadable on REV
-They want REV to be the standard in the industry
-REV will be compatible with all types of games, even convential ones, so, Iwata says, don't worry

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Sounds great to me. :)

Sounds good to me too, but I still want more information.

Nintendo's secrecy about this is starting to piss me off (in a good anxious / excited sort of way.)

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It's possible older multiplayer games may be given online modes when they're dowloadable on REV

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Wow.

Mario Kart SNES

online would be dope

at least Nintendo is showing some backbone

but I don't believe that "wanting to be the standard" bullshit

they only say to keep their stockholders happy

it's more like "we're going to make a profit, so STFU"

edit: I can't believe I used the word "dope"

hello 1990!

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Iwata: I don't think Revolution graphics will be inferior in any fashion to those on Xbox 360 or PS3. Even if you look at Zelda on Gamecube -- I don't think that it looks inferior to what [the competition] is touting as 'next-gen' visuals.

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eh...
wtf?

Is any of this really "new info," rather just a bunch of speculation people pretty much knew was going to happen anyway?

great

*goes back to playing his cube and snes*

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Originally Posted by kernow

great

*goes back to playing his cube and snes*

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Sorry for the off-topic remark.

Just wanted to let this good fellow know that I sent out his package yesterday and it should arrive in 4-6 days.

I'll also assume that everything went well with the raid on the Queen's undies?

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Originally Posted by Average Joe

Sorry for the off-topic remark.

Just wanted to let this good fellow know that I sent out his package yesterday and it should arrive in 4-6 days.

I'll also assume that everything went well with the raid on the Queen's undies?

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\\o

hmm, queens undies, no , other things, *still thinking of something cool*

Ethernet port attachment via USB. Nice.

Luigi based game lunch title. Nicer, worked real great for the GC.

Someone shoot me a PM when Nintendo remembers how to make a console, till then I'll play my SNES.

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Originally Posted by Wes

Is any of this really "new info," rather just a bunch of speculation people pretty much knew was going to happen anyway?

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In the Sept EGM (It was available for download yesterday with my subscription), they had like a 3 page interview with Miyamoto and half a page one with Iwata. They mostly talked about his like and some revolution details.

I was surprised when they said they want the Revolutions controller(or atleast that's what I think he meant) to be the industry standard. He made it seem like the controller was actually done though.

I just want more info about when this is coming out. The stockholders don't want to launch a long time after the PS3 and they don't see to really care.

I'm starting to wonder if the Rev will ever even see the light of day. :oh_no:

They've been spewing this evasive bullshit for the past 4 months now. I love Nintendo, but they've been acting very strange lately.

Didnt they say (around the E3 time) that the REV was going to be only 2.5 times more powerfull than the NGC?

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Originally Posted by lachlan

Didnt they say (around the E3 time) that the REV was going to be only 2.5 times more powerfull than the NGC?

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Yeah that's it. Unless plans have changed...which I doubt.

I wouldnt think Nintendo would make a console with hi-end specs... Nintendo focuses 90% on the younger gamers...unlike Sony,M$ who suit the older gamers more.

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Originally Posted by lachlan

I wouldnt think Nintendo would make a console with hi-end specs... Nintendo focuses 90% on the younger gamers...unlike Sony,M$ who suit the older gamers more.

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I suppose that's why the Gamecube's specs royally beatdown PS2's.

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Originally Posted by galfordo

I'm starting to wonder if the Rev will ever even see the light of day. :oh_no:

They've been spewing this evasive bullshit for the past 4 months now. I love Nintendo, but they've been acting very strange lately.

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Did you sleep through the Gamecube's dev period? :spock:

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Originally Posted by jethrek

Did you sleep through the Gamecube's dev period? :spock:

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No, I didn't. But the bottom line is that they're really dragging their feet with the Revolution - it's just a bunch of smoke & mirrors. They need to get on the ball, they're making their fanbase (which is shrinking, btw) very nervous, and are only serving to further alienate themselves.

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Originally Posted by galfordo

No, I didn't. But the bottom line is that they're really dragging their feet with the Revolution - it's just a bunch of smoke & mirrors. They need to get on the ball, they're making their fanbase (which is shrinking, btw) very nervous, and are only serving to further alienate themselves.

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For a long time the Dolphin though was more a "Phantom" thana console.

I agree, they need to stop dragging their feet, but this is very typical Nintendo.

Hell, the DS was one shadowy device for six months.

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Originally Posted by jethrek

For a long time the Dolphin though was more a "Phantom" thana console.

I agree, they need to stop dragging their feet, but this is very typical Nintendo.

Hell, the DS was one shadowy device for six months.

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Fair enough. I'm just particularly nervous about this generation because Nintendo just isn't in the position that they once were, and quite frankly, I'm not sure how much longer their fanbase can keep shrinking before something goes horribly wrong. Hopefully, I'll be proven to just be a neurotic worry wart.

Or maybe, a genital wart! :eek:

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Originally Posted by galfordo

Fair enough. I'm just particularly nervous about this generation because Nintendo just isn't in the position that they once were, and quite frankly, I'm not sure how much longer their fanbase can keep shrinking before something goes horribly wrong. Hopefully, I'll be proven to just be a neurotic worry wart.

Or maybe, a genital wart! :eek:

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If Sony charges >$300 for the PS3 it will be a lucky day for MS and Big N.

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Originally Posted by galfordo

No, I didn't. But the bottom line is that they're really dragging their feet with the Revolution - it's just a bunch of smoke & mirrors. They need to get on the ball, they're making their fanbase (which is shrinking, btw) very nervous, and are only serving to further alienate themselves.

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I totally agree here. It just seems like they are spouting craziness and have their noses up to high to realize it. They say that they want to be the "standard" yet they aren't doing anything that appeals to the "standard" people.

To begin with, I am a Nintendo geek, completely. I could have cared less about MS's Xbox. They had nothing for me. In one single moment Ms totally grabbed my attention with the fact that they have Fighting games with Live enable. In one single motion they totally took my attention. Nintendo is just to damn full of themselves to even to appeal to somebody like that, they just wanna say hey look at me this is what I can do and you need to like it.

They are trying to get too far ahead of themselves and try to be all inventive and original however there is a point where you need to slow down for a second. In all their efforts they are just alienating themselves and scaring off their fans.

If Nintendo could just do something to grab a whole genre's attention, they could be back on the ball. If they could grab the fighting game community or better yet the RPG fans then they'd be in the butter zone.

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Originally Posted by jethrek

I suppose that's why the Gamecube's specs royally beatdown PS2's.

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Uhhh, no, cause it came to market (in japan) a good year and a half after the PS2 launch.

Please, stop the blind Nintendo fanboi-ism.

I'm glad I'm not going to have to set up a wireless network with this thing then.

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Originally Posted by jethrek

I suppose that's why the Gamecube's specs royally beatdown PS2's.

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Nintendo's new model is that new and more powerful machines are not good as it doesn't work anymore...for them. Which is why the PSP's "specs royally beatdown" the DS's. And why the Revolution supposedly won't be as visually stunning as the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 hope they will be.

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Originally Posted by jethrek

If Sony charges >$300 for the PS3 it will be a lucky day for MS and Big N.

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Even this I'm not that sure about. I mean people(including me) actually bought PSP's. And I am planning to get a PS3 no matter how much it costs.

480P standard is good enough for me.

But I still worry that Nintendo is kicking itself in the ass by not embracing HDTV and being locked at 480I would have pissed me off royally.

I'm annoyed by the lack of a built in ethernet port, but an adapter is ok.

Although I think it will have slight ramifications for their online plans.

I mean wtf?

They could fit it in there and it's not that expensive.

Nintendo always does stupid shit like this.

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Originally Posted by Average Joe

Wow.

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Yea. :eek:

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Originally Posted by syringe

I'm annoyed by the lack of a built in ethernet port, but an adapter is ok.

Although I think it will have slight ramifications for their online plans.

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I still haven't bought a router. But if you live in a tech savy neighborhood somebody has to not have their network protected...

i heard that the rom downloads will not be free. if this is true i hope it bankrupts them.

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Originally Posted by FeelGood

i heard that the rom downloads will not be free. if this is true i hope it bankrupts them.

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Some will be and some won't. Different ways like bonus's and stuff.

Fuck all this shit baout the console as far as i'm concerned the actual console itself looks sweet and all i want to do now is play the games!

At the end of the day i just wanna play some interesting new games.

Don't forget the touchscreen controller used to play games you bought 8 years ago. I mean, Sony and MS are as good as bankrupt, Nintendo is only delaying out of mercy.

Nintendo is all about graphic optimization with the consoles. Getting the most bang for the buck. I dont think the revolution will have any problem pulling out the stops to meet the graphic capability of the other two. Especially since graphic tricks make up the core of developement now. Nintendo has a thing or two up there sleeve and I for one am not concerned about there future. They will do just fine.

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

Nintendo has a thing or two up there sleeve

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I bet it's an e-card and mario is wearing a top hat.

If I do buy a next-gen console, it will be the Revolution.

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

I dont think the revolution will have any problem pulling out the stops to meet the graphic capability of the other two.

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Nintendo stated the Revolution™ would be between 2 and 3 times more powerful than the GameCube. In other words, it won't be able to deliver what the X360 or PlayStation3 will deliver in terms of graphics. It not being HDTV compatible speaks a lot on the subject.

Still, we know nothing about this system at the moment really.

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-It's possible older multiplayer games may be given online modes when they're dowloadable on REV

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This is one of the first things that crossed my mind when I heard about the downloadable games, and I dismissed it as something Nintendo would never be cool enough to implement.

Surprise me with some online Goldeneye Nintendo.

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Originally Posted by shirt

This is one of the first things that crossed my mind when I heard about the downloadable games, and I dismissed it as something Nintendo would never be cool enough to implement.

Surprise me with some online Goldeneye Nintendo.

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HELL YES. :buttrock:

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Originally Posted by Mushiki

Nintendo stated the Revolution™ would be between 2 and 3 times more powerful than the GameCube. In other words, it won't be able to deliver what the X360 or PlayStation3 will deliver in terms of graphics. It not being HDTV compatible speaks a lot on the subject.

Still, we know nothing about this system at the moment really.

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I know what they have stated. But i also know nintendo puts alot of developement time into there hardware to get the maximum performance. The gamecube was a marvelous work of perfection for the type of equipment that was available for that time. And so was the N64, which set the standard for packing all kinds of visual enchancements. Basically performance that is honed for gaming and gaming alone. In terms of the ps3 hardware it looks decent on paper, but the developers are worried about trying to hone the raw power, and developement will suffer because of this, this was the case for the ps2 aswell. At least initially. Also I believe the hardware isnt done and nintendo is taking the time to see exactly what others are bringing to the table with the super late release. This would also explain why there is very little to show for the revolution on the software side. So I think they will be updating where needed to compete. They are not going to pull another ds and bring out a system they thought would be graphically equal based on the speculation that the psp was going to be like the ps1 and not the ps2.

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Originally Posted by Mark of the Wolves

Nintendo's new model is that new and more powerful machines are not good as it doesn't work anymore...for them. Which is why the PSP's "specs royally beatdown" the DS's. And why the Revolution supposedly won't be as visually stunning as the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 hope they will be.

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"Nintendo's New Model"?

No model Game Boy EVER was as powerful as its contemporaries. so far, Nintendo's consoles have been more than up to the task in system specs. They migh break this time but the DS is their "old model" they've been doing for 15 years in handhelds. :spock:

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Originally Posted by Mushiki

Nintendo stated the Revolution™ would be between 2 and 3 times more powerful than the GameCube. In other words, it won't be able to deliver what the X360 or PlayStation3 will deliver in terms of graphics. It not being HDTV compatible speaks a lot on the subject.

Still, we know nothing about this system at the moment really.

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USA Today claimed Nintendo said that and it radiated fromt here, but various Nintendo employees have claimed otherwise in interviews.

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-They're thinking about Super Smash Bros. for the DS

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Hopefully they'll go with the N64 engine :buttrock:

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

I know what they have stated. But i also know nintendo puts alot of developement time into there hardware to get the maximum performance. The gamecube was a marvelous work of perfection for the type of equipment that was available for that time. And so was the N64, which set the standard for packing all kinds of visual enchancements.

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The GameCube is a very well designed piece of hardware, but the Nintendo64 was a very flawed system in many many ways. Saying it was "perfect" just because it was able to do bilinear filtering, edge anti-aliasing, etc is stupid. Also, it's not like Nintendo invented this filtering methods/effects. The original PlayStation was overall better designed than the Nintendo 64 - and I am not speaking of graphical performance.

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

Also I believe the hardware isnt done and nintendo is taking the time to see exactly what others are bringing to the table with the super late release. This would also explain why there is very little to show for the revolution on the software side. So I think they will be updating where needed to compete. They are not going to pull another ds and bring out a system they thought would be graphically equal based on the speculation that the psp was going to be like the ps1 and not the ps2.

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This doesn't work for serious bussiness, I doubt Nintendo is doing something like this. After all, you can't play with development companies like this, having no kits availables and "waiting" to see what others are offering.

Anyway, I believe BioHazard5 not being announced for Revolution speaks a lot on the whole situation.

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Originally Posted by Wes

Is any of this really "new info," rather just a bunch of speculation people pretty much knew was going to happen anyway?

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My thoughts exactly. It's all talk as of now. Yes, the PS3 might not be able to push out the pixels they show, and the 360 might not be as good as it says it is, but the REV is the biggest talker of all. I've seen nothing about what is does or how it plays games. They've got one hell of an ace up their sleeve, or it's the best bluff I've heard in a long time.

I say it's a bluff.

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Originally Posted by Mushiki

The GameCube is a very well designed piece of hardware, but the Nintendo64 was a very flawed system in many many ways. Saying it was "perfect" just because it was able to do bilinear filtering, edge anti-aliasing, etc is stupid. Also, it's not like Nintendo invented this filtering methods/effects. The original PlayStation was overall better designed than the Nintendo 64 - and I am not speaking of graphical performance.

This doesn't work for serious bussiness, I doubt Nintendo is doing something like this. After all, you can't play with development companies like this, having no kits availables and "waiting" to see what others are offering.

Anyway, I believe BioHazard5 not being announced for Revolution speaks a lot on the whole situation.

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I didnt say the nintendo 64 was the best piece of hardware, just said it introduced the following hardware effects into the console war, as a point to prove nintendo was ahead of the visual game back then and it still is in a position to do so in the future. Yes it did have flaws, mainly cart space, cant really do much if you dont have the space to exploit it.

So you doubt but dont really know yourself, as i said it was my opinion based on what i know, I dont know of any companies that are working on revolution software. And last i heard ati was still tweaking the graphics card. There still formalizing a release date for the system. Nintendo has always done things there way and it has generally worked. And what do you mean they cant play with developement companies like this, you really think they want to start working on a bunch of games that basically have no installed base except maybe EA sports who spam there crap on everyone and have large distribution rights to do so. Launches always suck and they generally wait untill there is a money opportunity before they decide to stick there big franchises on it. Unless of course contracts are signed and money is handed out to get things going.

And about the biohazard thing, companies want the largest demographic as possible.. xbox is going to be out first... ps3 second. And what do you know capcom has both developement kits. Releasing a game on hardware that hasnt really been established yet that has been released on two other systems would probably be a waste of time and cost as in the end capcom wouldnt make any more money.

apparently biohazard 5 simply hasnt been confirmed on revolution because they still don't know what the machine is like and the pad layout and if it can even handle it

I call this bullshit though, they should know by now, but capcom have already said their games are highly portable to any platform, so it shouldn't be any problem at all.

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

I am a retarded Nintendo fanboi. They can pack a pile of dogshit in a box, and I'll buy it.

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No argument here . . . :kekeke:

Nintendo fanatics remind me of the people who refuse to drink at Starbucks.

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Originally Posted by chimpmeister

No argument here . . . :kekeke:

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You do realize you're a grown man, right?

I'm still waiting for Sony to show some actual in game footage. They've been showing only CG. If people think Nintendo aren't showing anything look at Sony. They said that their system has so much power that it is basically 35 times as strong as the original PS2. Well I'm still waiting to see actual in-game footage.

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Originally Posted by wizkid007

Yes it did have flaws, mainly cart space, cant really do much if you dont have the space to exploit it.

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Haha, no.

4kb texture buffer and high latency RDRAM were the main flaws.