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sources? i dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
like i said, it's a rumor.
it was even mentioned to one of the espn.com mlb insiders in a chat, he said he heard the same thing even got some names, but won't spread any rumors.
i wouldn't be surprised either way.
I see nothing about any rumor anywhere.
Did they call you directly or send you a PM?
it's on the espn insider shit (pay crap) whoever the fuck mlb person has chats and shit someone asked him about rumors about 2 big name players being busted?
i read about it at some white sox message board, but i guess it's been mentioned elsewhere too.
names mentioned were clemens and damon.
like i said, i wouldn't be surprised either way.
If Clemens were on the juice, all hell would absolutely break loose. All hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttasuperb
And if Damon were on the juice everyone in the great state of New York would call for the Red Sox to forfeit the ALCS since Damon's two homeruns won that Game 7 (that and the shitass pitching of Brown and Vasquez).
Well, it's been speculated in some circles for quite some time that Clemens has been juicing.
I'll be honest, the thought has indeed crossed my mind regardless of how well documented his training regimen is.
But I don't know, if the rumor turned out to be true, I'd be very surprised if that was the case.
Damon though?
He doesn't really strike me as the type to juice, but then again neither did Alex Sanchez or these other idiots who have gotten busted.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
But even if Clemens has been on roids this whole time, at this point wouldn't you just retire and get out before they started testing regularly.
Shit, he's already got 300+ wins, 4000+ strikeouts, 7 Cy Youngs, and 2 ? World Series Rings and a shitload of money, what else does he need?
Would you get out if you knew you could beat the tests?Quote:
Originally Posted by buttasuperb
But, I did hear Clemens was looking to get higher on the all time wins list so that's why he keeps playing. The money is an added bonus though.
Plus anyway he is still at the top of his game, it's interesting to see what he can continue to do.
I noticed Nick Girlko has been quiet since the Yanks took 2 of 3 in Chicago
:kekeke:
We had a split with the bosox. Not too shabby, the bosox are tough!
I saw according to schedule the Angels have the easiest schedule from here out. I hope so, could use some padding in our div.
@Yankee fans - u thinkin AL Wildcard for Yanks? Or AL East winner? Or?
HEY!
I'm just glad they finally fucking won a game.
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Originally Posted by D-Lite
haha. I hear ya. Looking back on our '02 championship and watching bonds hit all the HR's really pisses me off. At least we won it. :buttrock:
lol, 7 in a row :emb:Quote:
Originally Posted by buttasuperb
The Yanks' fate lies with the pitching staff. The Unit has been unpredictable, Mussina is about 70% consistent, etc
Chacon shut the Sox down twice. Dunno if that's saying much, considering the Sox current slump at the plate.
Good news is that throughout that losing streak, the pitching was still mostly solid.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/p...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
The Hispanic Ballot is Bullshit.....
Sandy Alomar Jr. Is not included on the Catcher Ballot.... But Manny Sanguillen is.
Tough loss for the Chisox tonight.
Freddy Garcia goes into the 8th with a no hitter and gives up a homerun for the only hit of the game for the Twins and it turns out to be the game winner.
Ugh.
Some people I know are predicting the White Sox to miss the playoffs completely.
Hmm, I think the Yanks might miss the playoffs completely... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
They've been playing fairly decent the past 10 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Mike
I wonder if that will hold up.
If they make the playoffs what will you say then? :angry:
Typical August bullshit from the White Sox.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
I dunno, i could see that WildCard spot slipping away rather easily... I still see the Angels DEEP in postseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
Do you say the same about the Yanks at this point? Wildcard or division winners? Lets hear the predictions...
Honestly I'm not really sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Mike
I could see the Yankees going either way either division or wild card.
I think it is all relative to whether or not perhaps they finally got their head out of their asses, or if it this is going to be another "looks good for a short time, but collapses quickly" run they have going.
Granted most, if not all of the media had the Yankees winning the division. I really do think the Red Sox may let this slip away because if you look at the Red Sox team, they are not the same team they were last year. Sure they split with the Angels, but I don't think the Red Sox are as good as you thought they were.
Schilling is a disaster in the bullpen to put it quite simply. Even whenever Keith Foulke comes back, that's not really a guarantee IMO because Foulke had a career year last season. He was never a lights out closer prior to the playoffs last year and I think that is a good indication that he happened to have a good run.
Not to mention their starting pitching is shot. The idiots in Boston can claim otherwise, but losing Pedro Martinez really hurt that team. I wonder if that may go down as the "Clemens decision" of 2004. The Red Sox thought Clemens was done after 1996 and here we are 8 years later looking at him dominating the way he did when he was young. Maybe the same thing will happen with Pedro. I still think the Yankees should have signed him over one of those 3 pre-season aquisitions.
I think the AL overall got a lot tighter than was projected a month ago. I can see a ton of different ways everything can go. You have quite a few teams in the mix right now...Red Sox, Yankees, White Sox, Indians, Angels, and the A's. 4 out of those 6 teams will be in the post season, the question is which...I'm not quite ready to make that prediction just yet. :)
The red sox knew Pedro was going to have a good year but in 3 years he probably wont and that is why they didnt give him all the years he wanted. And the red sox's are not as good as last year but the yankess are defiently not as good.
I dont think the yanks or the sox are going to win it this year. I think the Cards and the Indians will wind up in the WS :loco:
I do think the sox win the division no problem. Paplebon looks to be the real deal and Hansen is ready to come up and be a strong assest to the bp
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Originally Posted by Neco_Coneco
And if Pedro still is having a good year 3 years from now? ;)
Speaking of which, what happened to all those so called "A's" fans that were trolling non-stop a few weeks ago? :kekeke:
Cleveland 70 56 -- 36Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
NY Yankees 69 55 -- 38
Oakland 68 56 1.0 38
Minnesota 67 58 3.0 37
Detroit is playing well right now, too, although Chacon has been a big boost for you guys (surprisingly) and Wright may also contribute down the stretch...
Well its still not an awful move on the sox part. Its not like Pedro was had by the mets for a discount. They payed top dollar for him. Last couple of years Pedro hasnt pitched like the guy he used to be. Even though he is having a really good season its not a Pedro of old season. When he used to go out there you just put it in the win column... not anymore the fact is he is throwing harder than he threw for the red sox just to prove everyone wrong. I am sure it is taking a toll on his arm too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
Hell Pedro was always my fav player and I wouldnt have minded to seem him stay but as he always a complainer and crybaby so its not a huge loss IMO.
Well with Chacon there is a theory running around that getting dealt to an actual contending team was a huge boost to his own personal morale. I definitely could understand that even though the Yankees are fighting to get to the postseason. Who would want to even play in Colorado? I'll never understand why they had to place a baseball team there because the Rockies have been a disaster since 1993.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Mike
Jaret Wright is always going to be questionable because while he pitched fairly well for the Braves last season, he is sort of the Eric Lindros of MLB. Well...actually Kevin Brown might take that. :) But Wright's arm is such a gray area that it's hard to tell if he will hold up or not. While he has pitched great in his last 2 starts, I also remember how he pitched at the beginning of the season before he went to the DL so I never rule out the possibility that he could quickly revert to the Jaret Wright of April.
The American League IMO is much more interesting than the National League this year. I really would like to see the Marlins against the Cards in the NLCS. That would make for a great pitching matchup.
A couple weeks ago everyone was predicting the Yanks would shrivel up and die in the coming schedule, heavy with +0.500 teams and they haven't shit the bed yet. I think, as long as they can stop losing to Tampa Bay ( :rolleyes: ) they're in the playoffs, maybe even the division title.
The Red Sox are much worse off this year without Pedro. Who is the #2 starter? Hell, who is #1? David Wells? I don't care how many years they thought he'd be good for, you sign him and win NOW. Teams that play for next year or for 3 years from now never win. You build your team to win now, especially if you just won the World Series. Does it make sense to dismantle a winning team? Especially one that won on chemistry above all else? Losing Pedro will screw the Red Sox come playoff time. Unless Schilling regains his composure and someone steps up to be a legit #2, the Sox exit the playoffs in the first round.
And consider that the Yankees are hanging in the race with a devastated rotation for most of the year and a highly erratic Randy Johnson. That staff can't get anymore screwed up yet they still win. Chacon stepping up is huge and isn't that much of a surprise as stated above. The guy had the goods to be a closer, but playing for a crap team and in Coors Field destroyed him. A little confidence goes a long way. And they got him cheap and he's only 27. My only problem is they sat Aaron Small instead of Al Leiter, though Leiter hasn't been bad at all.
Playoffs: Angels, Red Sox, White Sox, Yanks. A's will collapse soon and Cleveland is still a year away. Twins don't have the bats and the rotation isn't what it used to be.
Chacone was having an Awesome Year.
He may have been 1-7, but he had a 4.15 ERA. His record was due to the fact that he had the worst run support in the MLB. The 4.15 ERA holds up well on a move to the AL becuase he gets out of Coors Field. Usualy you see a spike when players go from the AL->NL
Not a bad deal considering they got him for almost nothing. And he's 28 and likely to resign with NYY.
Look at the two Trade contenders for July. Mark Redmond and AJ burnett. The Marlins and Bucs wanted the kitchen sink for these players that were marginly better than Chacone.
Kudos to Brian Cashman for pulling Lieter, Chacon and Small off the scrap heap and getting them into the possiton to win games.
And it's good that they picked up Nomo. This way the BOSOX can't get him.
I think it would've been better had the Red Sox GOTTEN Nomo....Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
We've had our taste of Nomo.
Thanks but no thanks.
Well said about the Red Sox D-Lite.
Manny really didn't help the team when he started whining for a trade again before the deadline. Sure he is still there, but I really thought that was a shitty thing to do to your team.
The Red Sox have Damon, Ortiz, and Ramirez for pretty much their entire offense. Which is good or bad depending on your point of view because they have won a lot of close games for the Red Sox this year.
The rotation is worthless for the most part. David Wells looks every bit of his age at this point in his career. Matt Clement wasn't the big replacement they had hoped for. Tim Wakefield is back to his usual spotty self. Pitches fairly well against the Yankees still but there are other teams that are played and he has been so-so against rest of the AL. If they were to repeat it would be a miracle but it won't happen simply because like it is mentioned they dismantled too much of their team that helped them win the World Series last year.
He's only good as a spot starter... The redsox may need one in the next few months....Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
Well the Wild Card is still tied up after tonights games with the Yankees, A's, and Indians getting the wins. The Red Sox are still keeping a very small gap between themselves and the Yanks. The Angels got outslugged by the Devil Rays, but I don't suspect that will be the case tomorrow.
The Chisox and the Mariners are currently into the 11th inning...should be interesting to see if the White Sox blow this one.
Iguchi says no way.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousK
Los Angeles California Angels of Anaheim, Welcome to the Wild Card Race.
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lolQuote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
:kekeke:
I actually just realized the Angels got SWEPT by the DRays!
Awesome.
I'll do a little Neo Mike impersonation:
"If the season were to end today, the Angels wouldn't even make the playoffs!! "
ahahahahaha i was waiting for someone to post about that.
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Originally Posted by D-Lite
I knew someone was gonna post that. NYY would have the wildcard as of today too I believe.
The only defense I have to this, is that the Angels have only been out of first place for 8 days all season. :cool:
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
That surprises the hell out of me. I was thinking about going to a Tampa game this year, but I just haven't had the opportunity to drive out there anytime soon. :(
Tampa is on Fire.
Sweet Lou is kicking ass.
I hope they continue to kick ass tonight in Boston.
Its most unfortunate about the angels. Honestly, if we keep playing the way we have been I dont want to see us in postseason.
A's series starts tonight. Predictions? Thoughts?
Tue 8/30 OAK (Zito) @ LAA (Colon) 10:05 ETQuote:
Originally Posted by Neo Mike
Wed 8/31 OAK (Blanton) @ LAA (Lackey) 10:05 ET
Thu 9/1 OAK (Harden) @ LAA (Santana) 10:05 ET
A's will take this series.
They need to put a little distance between themselves and Anaheim.
Then it's Yanks v Oakland this weekend. Got tickets for Sunday night's game (ESPN game, so watch for me in the lower level bitches!).
Schilling is looking awesome so far tonight against Tampa.
......................IP......H ......R......ER.....BB......K.......HR.......Seaso n ERA
C. Schilling.......3.0......7.......5......5.......0. ......3........0.............7.38
I bet the Sox wish they had picked up NOMO..
Anywhow...
Wong, Mendoza and Sierra should be comming back soon.....
Any news if Bellhorn will start tonight?I know that E-Rod pulled a muscle or something.
No Halo Victory tonight.
2 games out. :glee:
The Chacon glass slipper broke. Oh well. Shouldn't be a the norm on that.
He's allowed one bad game.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
One more and he and Mussina need to be demoted to bullpen work.
Wang needs to come back ASAP.