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11-12-2004, 01:44 PM
Dallas_Five

Street Fighter USA?

i know both Now Loading and butta mentioned it in the other Capcom thread but i figured it deserved it's own topic. THis all stems from a post on Akiman's site that has now disappeared. Here is an archive of the page and the srk thread on it:

http://cgi.no-ip.org/cgi-bin/akiman/...10-021025.html
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/show...8&page=1&pp=15

It's not 100% clear whether this means C-USA will be making new SF games, or if this is strictly for marketing reasons. Strange, to say the least. It could turn out OK, it could suck much ass, but it definitely is just one more sign of the end of an era.
11-12-2004, 01:51 PM
Verythrax

It smells like more moneymaking poor sequels and rehashes on horizon. Not that we aren't seeing it happening before cough...CFJ...cough but... it's said to lose all the hope :crying:
11-12-2004, 01:53 PM
kobylka68

Is there some deep seeded problem inside capcom we haven't heard about? Are they going broke or something?
11-12-2004, 01:53 PM
VanillaThunder

Would you rather be hung out to dry or let a studio that has let some GOOD games come out of it take a swing for the fences.

Fuck it.. let 'em try... Capcom folded the arcade division fold up like a cheap shirt.. let USA go for it.

More fucking power to them.
11-12-2004, 01:56 PM
Verythrax

Can't wait to see SF art drawn in Marvel/DC style :kekeke: :rolleyes: :annoyed: :crying:
11-12-2004, 01:57 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

I'm buying CFJ next week, and I'm sure I'll have fun playing it.

But I want something NEW. And in 2D. SF4, and new darkstalkers, a completely new game, whatever.

Random rambling
11-12-2004, 01:57 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax

Can't wait to see SF art drawn in Marvel/DC style :kekeke: :rolleyes: :annoyed: :crying:

... rather than no SF game at all?

Also, I kinda like that style.. it animates well. Would you rather they use the same gfx and sprites over and ov...... ooops... forgot what message board I was on for a sec... :kekeke: :kekeke: :kekeke:
11-12-2004, 02:03 PM
Verythrax

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

... rather than no SF game at all?

Also, I kinda like that style.. it animates well.

Sincerely? I prefer the game to die with honor. Well, I'm not fan of that style, it may be just me, oh well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

Would you rather they use the same gfx and sprites over and ov...... ooops... forgot what message board I was on for a sec... :kekeke: :kekeke: :kekeke:

:kekeke: :kekeke: :kekeke:

But a whole new series, or uncompromised spin-off, with some remanescents would be cool enough. If they have the cojones to abandon the game name and stick just with the characters.
11-12-2004, 02:05 PM
Nesagwa

If Capcom USA is making Street Fighter games, I have something more than Tiburon to look foward to.
11-12-2004, 02:06 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax

Sincerely? I prefer the game to die with honor. Well, I'm not fan of that style, it may be just me, oh well.

:kekeke: :kekeke: :kekeke:

But a whole new series, or uncompromised spin-off, with some remanescents would be cool enough. If they have the cojones to abandon the game name and stick just with the characters.

Heh.. they tried something like that with sf3.. and we ended up with Ken and Ryu anyways... ;)

People are really bitchy about the SF series.. for good reasons, but really the best of sf3 was the new stuff... I think in a lot of ways, the sf2 carryovers dragged it down a wee bit. (Double Impact and Third strike are still as close to perfect as possible, but throw-ins liek Chun-Li, Akuma and the Shotos took space from possibly new and innovative content)
11-12-2004, 02:10 PM
Verythrax

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

Heh.. they tried something like that with sf3.. and we ended up with Ken and Ryu anyways... ;)

People are really bitchy about the SF series.. for good reasons, but really the best of sf3 was the new stuff... I think in a lot of ways, the sf2 carryovers dragged it down a wee bit. (Double Impact and Third strike are still as close to perfect as possible, but throw-ins liek Chun-Li, Akuma and the Shotos took space from possibly new and innovative content)

Ken, Ryu and Chun-li are pretty expendable in that game. I know that lots of people play with them in SF3, but cmon, SF3 didn't needed them to shine.

I was very disapointed that that game didn't do well in brazilian arcades and vanished quickly. But I feel relieved to see that they had good acceptance in Japan and US.
11-12-2004, 02:11 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax

Ken, Ryu and Chun-li are pretty expendable in that game. I know that lots of people play with them in SF3, but cmon, SF3 didn't needed them to shine.

I was very disapointed that that game didn't do well in brazilian arcades and vanished quickly. But I feel relieved to see that they had good acceptance in Japan and US.

It wasn't huge.. the tourney folk got ahold of it and made it stick.. it wasn't ever SF2... or even close.
11-12-2004, 02:11 PM
jethrek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax

Can't wait to see SF art drawn in Marvel/DC style :kekeke: :rolleyes: :annoyed: :crying:

Oh, come on, this doesn't guarantee bad art.

I hope.

And hell, I'm happy to see someone other than SNK and Sammy possibly putting out a 2d fighter.
11-12-2004, 02:19 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

Heh.. they tried something like that with sf3.. and we ended up with Ken and Ryu anyways... ;)

People are really bitchy about the SF series.. for good reasons, but really the best of sf3 was the new stuff... I think in a lot of ways, the sf2 carryovers dragged it down a wee bit. (Double Impact and Third strike are still as close to perfect as possible, but throw-ins liek Chun-Li, Akuma and the Shotos took space from possibly new and innovative content)

Akuma > All

I never really understood all the hate towards shotos.
11-12-2004, 02:21 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

Akuma > All

I never really understood all the hate towards shotos.

One is good...

Two.... ehh...

any more is ridiculous... and really.. how many shotos are in sf3? Think about it.

The fact they're always ridiculously upper-tier and overused also contributes to the hate.
11-12-2004, 02:21 PM
Dallas_Five

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note other than MK?
11-12-2004, 02:22 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas_Five

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note other than MK?

Time Killers... :lol:
11-12-2004, 02:27 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

One is good...

Two.... ehh...

any more is ridiculous... and really.. how many shotos are in sf3? Think about it.

The fact they're always ridiculously upper-tier and overused also contributes to the hate.

Yea there's 3 of them. They really need to kill off either Ken or Ryu. :kekeke: Akuma is god.

But they each play different these days. I woudn't really consider them upper tier in SF3, maybe Ken. Akuma might be a beast on offense, but he takes more damage and has no ex moves.

In fact I wouldn't consider anyone totally overpowered in SF3.

edit: Tis true they are overused, I see a shitload of Ken players online.
11-12-2004, 02:35 PM
jethrek

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

One is good...

Two.... ehh...

any more is ridiculous... and really.. how many shotos are in sf3? Think about it.

The fact they're always ridiculously upper-tier and overused also contributes to the hate.

I vote they kill off Ken. :glee:
11-12-2004, 02:41 PM
SouthtownKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas_Five

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note other than MK?

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note including MK? I never could get much into them. If you want to read something really funny, check out the Gamefan MK Trillogy guide, and read the interview with the creator (forget if it was Boon or Tobias) where he explains the problems with Street Fighter Alpha, and how the evolution in gameplay of MK is superior. That will cheer you up on a cloudy day.

I guess if you are going to mention MK, you should also mention Killer Instinct. Other than that and Final Fight Revenge (and Time Killers), I think that's about it.

Keeping aside any look or style a US made SF game might use... it's sad to have so little faith in my countrymen, but do I think they could make a SF game that played well? No.

No question about it. No. I hope it won't happen.
11-12-2004, 02:42 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

Yea there's 3 of them. They really need to kill off either Ken or Ryu. :kekeke: Akuma is god.

I could argue 5 or more.. I had this argument at the last get together at my house.

I'll be online soon to pwn all with dudley. :cool:
11-12-2004, 02:46 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

I could argue 5 or more.. I had this argument at the last get together at my house.

I'll be online soon to pwn all with dudley. :cool:

Ok so who are the other 2? Oro?

You order the import one?
11-12-2004, 02:51 PM
jethrek

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note including MK? I never could get much into them. If you want to read something really funny, check out the Gamefan MK Trillogy guide, and read the interview with the creator (forget if it was Boon or Tobias) where he explains the problems with Street Fighter Alpha, and how the evolution in gameplay of MK is superior. That will cheer you up on a cloudy day.

I guess if you are going to mention MK, you should also mention Killer Instinct. Other than that and Final Fight Revenge (and Time Killers), I think that's about it.

Keeping aside any look or style a US made SF game might use... it's sad to have so little faith in my countrymen, but do I think they could make a SF game that played well? No.

No question about it. No. I hope it won't happen.

Killer Instinct isn't American.
11-12-2004, 02:52 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

Ok so who are the other 2? Oro?

You order the import one?

Oro, Dudley, Ken, Sean, Akuma, Ryu

They're all shoto-types.. maybe not EXACTLY, but there's a HEAVY dose of shoto-type play there.
11-12-2004, 02:53 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by jethrek

Killer Instinct isn't American.

Rare did it, so it's british...

...and fucking sweet...
11-12-2004, 02:55 PM
KagerouSama

Mortal Kombat jumped to 3D at MK Gold and fully 3D at Deadly Alliance. And as much as I'd like to see another arcade release, Midway has sold off their manufacturing to HAPP.

But, other than MK...there's the Atari made Primal Rage. So, no other American-made 2d fighters that come to mind.

As far as Shotos in SF3:TS:
Sean
Ryu
Ken
Akuma

...and some people argue Makoto is..even though her style is all wrong for the part.
11-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

Oro, Dudley, Ken, Sean, Akuma, Ryu

They're all shoto-types.. maybe not EXACTLY, but there's a HEAVY dose of shoto-type play there.

Heh totally forgot about Sean.
11-12-2004, 03:09 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

Heh totally forgot about Sean.

I can make cases for 2 or 3 others, too....
11-12-2004, 03:11 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

I can make cases for 2 or 3 others, too....

EVERYONE IS A SHOTO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D
11-12-2004, 03:16 PM
VanillaThunder

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

EVERYONE IS A SHOTO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :D

I thought we were talking about sf3 and not MvC2...

;)

I don't believe that truly, but if I'm pissed and want to play devils advocate.. I like that argument.

I play dudley... and I don't play him like a shoto..but he can be.
11-12-2004, 03:23 PM
Now Loading

The last Street Fighter game will be Street Fighter EX 4.

That is all.
11-12-2004, 03:25 PM
Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Now Loading

The last Street Fighter game will be Street Fighter EX 4.

That is all.

Which would be lame as hell.
11-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Sky_R

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttasuperb

Akuma > All

I never really understood all the hate towards shotos.

I dont think its so much a problem with the shotos in general that bothers people I think its the fact that there are so many of them. Slight variations of shotos are okay but you can only get so creative with shoto characters. Be as it may its not the shoto creations that bother me its the fan basses obsessive babbling to keep shoto characters in games like SF3 series that bothered me.

It would've been nice to take them out for awhile to show the complete focus of a new era of fighters. And then maybe bring them back in the end of the series for a climax in the storyboard. It wouldve seemed more worldly of its mythology if things were done that way.

For Example: K' being the main heroe in the 99-01 series and then Kyo and Iori are still main characters but are backround main characters. They establish a structure but arent the focus of the storyboard as much.

It was nice to see a company like capcom come out and say they weren't going to use any shotos in the SF3 series but because of popular demand they had too. I really think if people had any respect at all for the series stand alone creativity they wouldnt of bitched to get the same old franchise characters everytime around. Come on people! Weve seen what capcoms new characters look like. They are more than creative enough to do without the originals.
11-12-2004, 03:34 PM
Loopz

It's a whole lot better to just consider this series dead and gone.
I'd LOVE to see another great 2D fighter come from ANYONE, but the odds of this happening, given the great 'scattering to the winds' of the old pools of talent from Capcom and SNK, that this just isn't bloody likely at all.

Nothing will ever top SSF2X or Third Strike...nothing. Viva la SFAC on the Box.
11-12-2004, 03:44 PM
Liquid Snake

I'm so excited with new street fighter game from Capcom USA.......

- I'll finally hear "Fireball" instead of "shoryuken" :D
- All characters will be digitized instead of 2D hand-drawed
- In proper English (no more Japanese-English accent)

;)
11-12-2004, 06:15 PM
johnroche

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas_Five

Are there any US-developed 2d fighters of note other than MK?

I remember Weaponlord for SNES/Genesis; that one was pretty good. Heck, it even had parrying, which wound up getting used in the Soul fighting games. (Edge/Blade, Calibur, Calibur II)
11-12-2004, 08:39 PM
TriShield

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagerouSama

But, other than MK...there's the Atari made Primal Rage. So, no other American-made 2d fighters that come to mind.

Clay Fighters, Ballz, other really forgettable stuff.
11-12-2004, 11:34 PM
KagerouSama

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriShield

Clay Fighters, Ballz, other really forgettable stuff.

+1 for Mediocrity.
11-14-2004, 09:51 AM
Verythrax

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnroche

I remember Weaponlord for SNES/Genesis; that one was pretty good. Heck, it even had parrying, which wound up getting used in the Soul fighting games. (Edge/Blade, Calibur, Calibur II)

Are you sure is was US developed?

It was a Namco game developed by ex-capcom employees. I always tought that was japanese...
11-14-2004, 12:16 PM
johnroche

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax

Are you sure is was US developed?

It was a Namco game developed by ex-capcom employees. I always tought that was japanese...

I thought it was developed by Visual Concepts. I don't know for sure, though.
11-14-2004, 12:23 PM
RAINBOW PONY

if this is anything like final fantasy USA, it will be gold! :D
11-14-2004, 12:47 PM
Baseley09

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriShield

Clay Fighters, Ballz, other really forgettable stuff.

Bratal Paws of Fury & Eternal Champions bring up the rear.

Aniga Barbarian pwns tho.

Body Blows.......blows.
11-14-2004, 08:42 PM
Darklighterx

What about Blood Storm? Was that US developed?

It sucked anyhow.
11-14-2004, 09:06 PM
Hidden Character

Meh.
11-14-2004, 09:21 PM
NeoTheranthrope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baseley09

Bratal Paws of Fury & Eternal Champions bring up the rear.

Aniga Barbarian pwns tho.

Body Blows.......blows.

Don't forget the MK stopmotion-capture knock-off Pitfighter. Now -that- was quality gameplay.

EDIT: Remwmber, don't drink and surf kids! Now you know, and knowing is half the battle! YO JOE!
11-14-2004, 10:25 PM
PleaseKillMeNow

We're forgetting the greatest American-made fighter EVAR. . .

Shaq-Fu!

Shaq beating up little kids, women, old men, and mummies?

SIGN ME FUCKING UP.
11-14-2004, 11:19 PM
Hidden Character

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wopat

We're forgetting the greatest American-made fighter EVAR. . .

Shaq-Fu!

Shaq beating up little kids, women, old men, and mummies?

SIGN ME FUCKING UP.

:lol: Yeah, you're right on that. Don forget, he also beat up truckers, Amazons, gargoyles, and deamons.
11-15-2004, 03:02 AM
SonGohan

I'm curious to see what they do with it, especially after Capcom JP sitting on it pulling out vs-series for so long. I'm watching this with an open mind.
11-15-2004, 03:50 AM
SouthtownKid

I thought Capcom USA closed their arcade division. If this were true, what would they create, anyway?
11-15-2004, 04:02 AM
SonGohan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

I thought Capcom USA closed their arcade division. If this were true, what would they create, anyway?

Um, games? Just because they may not be coming out in the arcades doesn't mean they won't stop making games for consoles.

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