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I'm gonna vote for Kerry. Lets do this again!
Kerry is a homo and so are his policies.
WORD. *I'd rather have a stutterin' cowboy in office than MR. ED and his queer assed global progressive ca ca. Already voted myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
MERCENARY X99 :cool:
I'm voting Bush just to piss off the gays.
kerry because i actually care about the environment.
I saw Nader on TV over the weekend. If I had to pick anyone, and I knew he actually had a chance of winning, I'd choose him.
Since Nader is a throw away vote, I have to go with Kerry. Bush is one scary motherfucker to have in power. I voted for him the first time around, but I hope to correct that mistake this time around.
Bush, to me, seems like a religious nut job, just like the people we are fighting against.
Need to wait another 5 years before I can get citizenship... I'll vote in 2012!!!
One day John Kerry will fart and clear his mind. *DUBYA is kinda scary alright, I won't even deny that... but he's a "Whiskey for my men & Beer for my horses" kind of beedy eyed cowboy, and with him maybe the whole world will choke on the nut hairs of the USA when we teabag them. Kerry's got great ideas for health care, but that's about it in my book. It's time this nation returned to the BSA days or crumble from within, we certainly don't need outside "help" from Neo Communist forces who have infiltrated the minds of a good portion of the American public to be faggoty global unification "let's suck dick instead of FIGHT" token citizens.
MERC X99
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Originally Posted by slerch666
nader actually wasn't on the ballot here in tejas.
I suppose you could have written him in if you wanted too.
but I think some libertarian person was on there.
go fig.
Vols for Bush.
Later
shir0
I don't even like Kerry's ideas for healthcare. They're only aimed at making Pfizer, Merck, Novartis, and other large pharmaceutical corps much much richer, by eventually wiping out the smaller corps competing.
I'd vote for Bush. Say what you will about him, I feel safer knowing his men are running the show. I don't care how the rest of the world feels. Like France. Maybe if they didn't meddle in the affairs of other countries themselves they wouldn't mind as much.
If you wanna play with the big boys, don't whine when you get a bloody nose.
we're fucking doomed, assholes.
I'm voting Bush, but I honestly don't care who wins at this point.
There are positives and minuses to both that I'd be comfortable (ie just as scared) with either of them in charge.
Bush is good because I feel he's tougher on Terrorism.
Kerry is good because I see many economic benefits to having a Democrat in the White House and a Republican Congress. And I don't think he'll really screw up Iraq by pulling out too early, he's not that dumb.
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Originally Posted by Mercenary X99
Merc shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Anyway, I vote Kerry. I just can't stand the fact of bush in office another 4 years. The man is so sub par it hurts and iraq was such a wrong move it's mind boggling.
It's time for a change alright and alothough I am not a huge fan of kerry's He will get my vote in this election.
You get the tree hugging hippies and we get Merc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ORPHEUS
Think of it as "Equivalent Trade".
I don't "get" anybody. I don't belong to either party.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
Tree hugging hippies, merc, thier all the same man.
UN? who needs the UN.
WE ARE THE WORLD ORDER.
GO USA!
i think they translated it to the law of conservationQuote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
anyway, the dub aint that bad. theres clips at the website
i cant wait till it airs, just because :buttrock:
if i could vote, id vote bush. theres just something mystical about being controlled by bush, dick, and colon.
I dunno man, as I said I understand you guys feel so pissed about foreigners putting their nose into this shitQuote:
Originally Posted by JHendrix
but that statement is just too silly, sorry
terrorism can be fought just with negotiation or they'll ALWAYS win
you're not fighting against a clear enemy but against an army of ghosts, you cant possibly beat'em with any war, ever
deal with it
I don't know how anyone feels safer with Bush. More people want to blow us up now than ever before.
almost got suedQuote:
Originally Posted by shir0
lol
They always have.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmhawkmoon
Just now, it's more out in the open.
No, now more than before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
GWB junior got to piss off most off the foreigners against him - intelligent people realize that its jsut a bad foreign policy where uneducated/influencable people turn their angst against the American people as a whole = more violent acts towards Americans.
I am not saying that if GWB wasn't president terrorist attacks would not have happened but under a different administration I believe that most countries would still be 100% behind the American government.
Hell, after 9/11 european newspaper titles "we are all Americans" and everyone in the civilized world felt that it was democracy and freedom that were attacked - every single French, German, Spanish, Japanese... was 100% ready to follow the Americans into any war against legitimate ennemies.
In less than 3 years the govt managed to turn all that around and most citizens of foreign countries sees the US govt and GWB as a warmonger who only serves his own interests. (Even Russia signed the Kyoto protocol just last week).
I doubt that Kerry would be worst at dealing with terrorists, he would certainly not pull out of Iraq and I'm pretty sure he would be able to build a real coalition with Russia, Italy, France and other involved, and his economic and social plans make a lot more sense than GWB's at the moment (seriously how many of you read these in detail?).
Whenever these posts come up, I like to pimp:
Factcheck.org
They give you the REAL deal behind all of the advertisments coming from both sides and shoots all the misinformation in the foot.
It 'attacks' both sides equally, though I tend to find the Republican spin to be the worse of the 2. Maybe that's because I don't like GWB Jr.
You should check it out if you think you are on the fence, something there may push you one way or another.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ll-Clinton.png
I'd like to abolish term limits and get Big Bad Billy back in office
as a non american i can't really say a lot since it ain't my country, but i can't stand bush hes a lieing little cunt, i always liked clinton even though he lied about getting his cock sucked but you would have done to given the circumstances, hes a man you can relate too.
and since clinton backs kerry, and kerry doesn't look like a monkey, its gotta be kerry.
i honestly hope he wins so i don't turn on the tv and see another picture of that god damned monkey looking twat
You're voting for Kerry if I remember correctly. So you get the hippies we get Merc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ORPHEUS
And they're not all the same, Merc would probably be cool to hang out with. :p
I'm saying that under another president less people would want to blow us up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
you never know how things will turn out. Under the lovable Carter we had to deal with American hostages being held for over a year. It doesn't matter who leads, terrorists are not freedom fighters. It's not like the Taliban or Al Qaeda seeks to bring peace to the world. It's not like we're actively oppressing them. They don't approve of how we live, how we treat women, and how we pray, if at all. And for that, we are targetted.
Didn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatGuy
I was watching Butta read your post and he didn't even flinch.
I dont see how the attack of bin laden ends up with us attacking Iraq. . Tell me what Sadam did to us "big boys" to justify the disgrace thats going on there? That whole country is a mess and the many people being harassed by our troops see more then we ever will.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
I am so sad at the answers I see from some people, like they dont care at all about this election.. This country is so full of lazy spoiled ppl it sickens me. How it got to be this bad, I have no idea.
This IMO is the most important election of a life time.
I'm going to vote Kerry because he can make much better decisions. Hes well spoken, a good representative of the american people and isnt gonna shove tax cuts to wealthy. This is a guy that weigh each cost and pays close fucking attention to what he does.
Bush keeps repeating the same stuff for people that are to dumb to see he doesnt know anything beyond it.
I was not gung-ho on kerry originally either. I watched those debates and Bush struggled terribly through all of them but the last one. You can only take the flip flop account so far when you are making hasty decisions based on your personal principles/vendetta's. Bush is a flip flopper also, see the widely ignored WMD's.
As far as character goes:
This guy is super dangerous because he doesnt weigh the costs of his decisions. It gets to creepy when he talks about god and all. You really gotta pay close attention to him. His character alone makes me uneasy, his facial expressions show me time and time again he's shooting shit out his mouth like a fart out of his ass. Theres really no word for how he took a turn. Bush is the type of person that would do stuff just to look good by doing it.
I was a Bush supporter in 2000. I totally changed my views after this term and if thats a flip flop charge, I'll gladly accept it.
Hey, if you want even more endless war and all, have fun.
BTW, I cant stand nader. Hes just a thorn in the elections ass.
You forgot to mention that they don't like our foreign policy, which they use (sucessfully might I add) to lure recruits and uprising against our country. I think we can do a better job with our relations in the Middle East, so terrorists won't find anyone lining up to blow up another building.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
Bill Clinton > Kerry/Bush
Electroman likes:
Environmentally responsible people
Great healthcare
Great education
Fiscal responsibility
Running along the rules and guidelines in the UN
Electroman dislikes:
Guns, ammo, and cigarettes
Vehicles that consume < 25 MPG
Unnecessary war
Pro exclusive "Uber right-wing white christian conservative mainstreamism", pro oil, pro war agenda
Anti-progressivism
Take a guess. :cool:
There is more that I dislike about Bush than I like about Kerry. I DO NOT want Bush in there.
P.S.: Fuck term limits. Bill Clinton for 2004!
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Most of you it seems are Butt Fuckin' Communist Heathens! BSA bitchez, taste the sweat of my balls!
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Originally Posted by lithy
W For President, says the sticker now.
Later
shir0
Agreed, but for what it's worth, I'm for Kerry.Quote:
Originally Posted by roke stAr
You'll never really "beat" a terrorist organization like Al Quaeda, but you can sure as hell weaken the shit out of them (and we have). I don't see how you can think that negotiation with people who fly planes into buildings and chop heads off of civilians is a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaos
I'm voting for Bush...duh...
why the fuck would I vote for Kerry? Other than all his secret plans that are better than all of Bush's plans?
This is a referendum on Bush's war on Terrorism. Who's going to keep fighting this war? George Bush, who invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, scared the bejesus out of Libya since they got out of the wmd business, told Arafat to 'talk to the hand', and has had our military and intelligence agencies slaughter terrorists across the globe, accounting for 75-80% of Al-Qaida leadership alone?....OR John Kerry, who was a stooge for the Communists during the cold war, ended up in a North Vietnam museum for cryin out loud, opposed invading Grenada, voted against the Gulf War 1, voted against funding our troops in Iraq 2, and voted to slash budgets for military and intelligence for over 20 years as a US Senator..?
It's not that hard of a choice really....it's very clear. George Bush has devoted his entire presidency to fighting the war on Terror after 9-11, going after terror groups with international reach, and those who support them....While John Kerry has made it abundantly clear during this campaign(regardless of countless quotes otherwise i.e. flip flop proof), that he opposes everything that Bush did in his first term and has also made it clear that it is vitally important to the US that we suck up to the French and the UN as he wants to outsource our national security to these bodies. I can't believe I'm even seeing Kerry on his campaign trail now saying that he will 'win' the war on terror....OK this is just ridiculous I can' believe anyone other than a complete nut job would believe him...yeah...John Kerry will win the war on terror, just like he won the war in Vietnam?
John Kerry is certainly the terrorist' candidate for President of the US. He's openly stated his objection to the Iraq war, and to the war on terror, labeling terrorism as a 'nuisance', and something that requires little more than police action to take care of. He's just been endorsed by Yasser Arafat just last week, one of the worlds foremost terrorists, second only to Bin Laden himself, who knows as long as Bush is in office, he'll never move out of that little bungalow hut he is trapped in now....whereas a Kerry presidency probably assures Arafat another 50 trips to the White House, as he did with Clinton.
Why hasn't John Kerry denounced the endorsement of Arafat? Perhaps he's a racist anti-semite? Maybe Arafat is one of the 'foreign leaders' that support him, like he said a few months back...remember that? Yeah sure, probably Kim Jong Il also. We know its not Jacque Chirac or Shroeder, or Putin who has just come out in support of President Bush....France and Germany both said they will absolutely not help with Iraq no matter what. Accepting an endorsement by Yasser Arafat is like a violent act towards our ally Isreal, I can't believe there are alot of Jews that would still vote for Kerry even with this endorsment from Arafat. I guess they have no love for Isreal, or they are self hating Jews or something I dont' get it. However there has been an increase in not only Jewish support for Bush, but also Black support for Bush...I guess they are getting sick of being promised the world for free by Democrats and getting nothing in return but fatherless children and ghetto life.
I'm hoping that Bush will be able to get farther with his domestic policies in the next term, praying that having the pressure of getting re-elected released, he will move in a more conservative agenda and drop some of the triangulation. Hopefully more tax cuts, I absolutely love the idea of a healthcare savings account, and also the idea of being able to put a small percentage of my Social Security tax into an account that I control. Give me more control over my money, and the best way to do that is to first let me keep more of it(tax cuts).
Gunstar - I'm totally with you man. Nice post. :cool:
but he looks like a monkey.
do you want a monkey in the white house?.
i don't
lol...John Kerry looks like Lerch from the Addams Family, I'd rather have a live monkey than someone who was raised from the dead using the powers of satan.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_riggs
All the young people I know are voting Kerry.
All the old people I know are voting Bush.
Me... I'm not voting. It really doesn't matter. Whoever gets voted in will fuck up everything any ways and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Bush will probably win this election at any rate. I know people who are voting Kerry even though they don't think he'll win.
Fuck them both,I'm voting for big bad ClinTON motherfuckin' Eastwood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercenary X99
BIG-
Agreed 100%. Nader isn't even on the ballot here in AZ. For that matter, I lost all respect for the man because he has absolutely no chance of getting enough electoral votes to win, and yet he hasn't bowed out. Its one thing to run as a third party who (more than likely) doesn't stand a chance, and quite another to actually have no chance numerically and still run. I'll probably vote against Kerry in 2008, but right now, in my mind, Bush can't be allowed to remain in office.Quote:
Originally Posted by slerch666
sais the man with a megadeath sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunstarHero
anyway I don't think you're paranoid. not one iota. the terrorists. their everywhere. burn them, burn them at the stake I say. Reverand Wasabi and his favourite naked choirboy Galfordo presiding.
lol. Dave Mustaine, the founder of Megadeth, is a Christian. He has a track on the latest album entitled "Shadow of Deth", the lyrics of which are comprised solely from Psalms 23 of the Christian Bible. Get a clue. And yes, burn terrorists at the stake, thats a great idea. Humiliate them in a public place, they hate that more than anything. I'm all for that. :buttrock:Quote:
Originally Posted by DevilRedeemed
This is just not true, and I wish people, especially the administration would stop trying to take credit for it. Libya has been making efforts with European powers to mend its international image since 1999. That year, they accepted responsibility for the 1984 shooting of a British police officer and offered to pay compensation to her family and also surrendered two Libyans suspected of being involved in the Pan Am 103 bombing. In response, Britain reestablished diplomatic ties with Libya. Since then, they have moved toward fulfulling all the requirements of the corresponding UN Security Council resolution in order to get the sanctions on their country lifted. Bush simply had no hand in Libya's change of heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunstarHero
Another half-truth. Between 1989 and 1992, while Dick Cheney was Secretary of defense, he recommended similar reductions in military and intelligence spending as Kerry voted on in the Senate. The cold war was ending, and a lot of the expeditures were becoming unnecessary. Support for the actions was decidedly bipartisan given the circumstances.Quote:
voted to slash budgets for military and intelligence for over 20 years as a US Senator..?
I think it's a little presumptuous to assert that the US recent policy toward terrorists played absolutely no role in their decision. I realize that it wasn't solely responsible, but I find their recent rush to cooperate a little convenient. Maybe it didn't have anything to do with it ... I guess that's possible. But to dismiss it out of hand is a bit of a stretch, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovax
20 years of anti-defense voting > 3 years of anti-defense votingQuote:
Originally Posted by Crovax
In this case, greater than means worse. :D
shit, christian thrash rock. wow. christian headbanger's ball - when?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunstarHero
Well, I will concede that the timing of Qadaffi's decision to dismantle his weapons program is probably a direct result of 9/11, but I still say Bush is greatly exaggerating the effect his administration's actions had to that end.Quote:
Originally Posted by galfordo
http://www.factcheck.org/article291.htmlQuote:
20 years of anti-defense voting > 3 years of anti-defense voting
In this case, greater than means worse. :D
sorry, it just isn't true. both parties have been responsible for promoting such initiatives since the end of the cold war. I only cited Cheney as a specific example. After all, it is unfair to claim his ideas would have ended after 3 years because after 1992, he was no longer in a position to advance such policy matters, unlike Kerry who was a senator continuously.