LINKY.
Guess legit Halo 2 fans aren't the only ones being shat on this month.
Kinda fits in with the game's theme though. Heh.
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LINKY.
Guess legit Halo 2 fans aren't the only ones being shat on this month.
Kinda fits in with the game's theme though. Heh.
WTF, man? Don't these guys ever take any security measures?
Man, I can't believe this is happening already!
Wow... Kickass...
I mean... this rampant piracy this day of the foremost leaders in innovative and unique Intellectual properties is un-consionable.
Bah... who cares i'll just play it in a couple days... got it pre-ordered and what not.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...s/GTA-SA-1.jpg
This happens all the time, now it has become more "popular" because this November would be full of very important sequels. That is the reason why we see this on big news sites.
I recall Devil May Cry being leaked 3 weeks before release, since the series was new, no one cared.
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Originally Posted by Mushiki
The most important Sequel in November is released on November 2.
The Sequel to the 2000 Presidential Election!
AMERICANS GO OUT AND VOTE!
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I bet you won't see Metroid Prime 2 get leaked.
Why are you so sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by galfordo
Nintendo has traditionally been a bit more fastidious about preventing piracy, particularly in the hardware department. The N64 and the GC both use media designed to prevent piracy. And although it's not totally effective, I think that it's far beyond that of Sony or Microsoft (waaaaaayyyyy beyond M$). I can only assume that their development studios (and those directly affiliated with them) are run in a similar fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki
I could be wrong, but I don't see these kind of leaks occurring in Nintendo's studios.
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Originally Posted by Mushiki
GC Piracy seems far less rampant... plus some people don't have the proper hardware to burn those tiny discs...although i've seen vidz of people doing it.
What a bunch of Waaa Waaas RockStar is. *They're still going to make serious $BLING anyhow, despite the piracy, and most people aren't even going to know where to download the shit anyhow. ---It is funny though, seeing a big company like Rockstar squirm like bait on a hook, when it's a bootlegged product gone "Guerrilla" based on a license that promotes barbaric behavior and committing Theft. Personally I wouldn't waste the time with the unofficial shit, and the official products in the past are cool for about half an hour then just becomes Pure Shit after that.
MERCENARY X99
lolz - yes, the irony of the whole thing is pretty fucking hilarious. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercenary X99
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Originally Posted by Loopz
*looks at his torrents* Yep.. id say I about have the game myself. :D
There were a lot of different ways of playing illegal games on the Nintendo64, just like the z64 and other similar devices. The media is not "designed" to prevent privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by galfordo
GODs (Gamecube Optical Discs) can be dumped pretty easily nowadays, and running illegal game copies or unsigned code on the GameCube is possible, but more difficult to achieve than with other consoles. It all started with a glitch in Phantasy Star Online. The point is, you can stream the game data via the system's BBA instead of having the actual media being read all the time. Sure, this causes certain issues, but the point is, it is possible. Why modchip developers have not worked on creating GameCube modchips? Not because of tight security (it was a bit tighter than the PlayStation2/Xbox security, yes) that is for sure. Still, we don't know.
The GOD burner software is easy to get, the only issue here is the security ring the games have before the actual game data. That ring is not readable by any kind of CD/DVD drive. Anyway, this is why other alternative hacking methods were developed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtWRX
And regarding the discs. They are just CAV 1.4Gb DVD discs.
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Originally Posted by Mushiki
Mushiki l33t haX0r
why are you even caring... or is it just the piracy issue you find interesting? you make it abundantly clear that you dislike the GTA Series.
Even though you say that. I'll bet you'll buy it... if you'll play it... not so sure.
Hm? I was just informing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtWRX
Anyway, yes, I will buy it and try it.
Well, I'm not sure where you get your information from, but I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons why Nintendo stuck with carts was to avoid piracy issues. If you want to get into semantics, and claim that this doesn't constitute them "designing" media so that it's not pirated, that's fine. My point was that Nintendo always considers piracy when making decisions on hardware and software, much moreso than Sony or Microsoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki
Anything's possible - but the difficulty of pirating Nintendo software means that it is much less widespread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki
Your forgetting about the way N64 piracy was majorly conveyed.
it's true that nintendo thought carts would slow piracy, because the costs reproduction of said carts would outweigh the potential profit to pirates.
The Z64 (or Doctor V64...can't remember) device was an addon underneath like the 64DD... that allowed you load it up with downloaded roms, and from its menu play all the games on you 64... therefore bypassing the whole carts=expensive thing.
As far as I know, no one can burn a working GCN disc. Playing isos from a computer, through the BBA onto the TV is the only way I know of that GCN hardware works.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithy
As I mentioned before, you need to stream the data to the GameCube via the BBA.
Yeah the videos I saw of people supposedly burning discs way back in the day were clearly fakes on close inspection. Edited and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithy
Edited, or just a standard GameCube hidden somewhere, playing a legit disc. Even a tape with game footage would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmhawkmoon
I predict all the next generation systems will revert back to cartridges to prevent this type of shit from happening. Games will cost about 100 bucks apiece because it will take 10 carts to comprise one game.
I don't know anyone who has a modded SNES, Genesis, Turbo Grafx, or Neo Geo (except for the debug chip). Most of my buddies have modded Xboxes or PS2s. They either download games or rent them from BlockBuster and rip them onto their hard drives. The best they could do back in the 8-bit and 16-bit days was swap out the game boards with a game they had but no longer played and try not to crack the cases in the process.
I realize I'm being facetious but I'm also sorta serious about this shit. If companies really want to stop being ripped off, they need to bring back the cartridge. I'm sure if they spent some time and money developing higher capacity carts, it could be done.
That won't happen, things will get higher and more difficult to crack levels of encryption. Forget about brute-force cracking, will take billions of years to crack like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BJMFH
For example, Sony is promising the highest level of copy protection for the PSP UMD discs using both DiscID and AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) encoding technology... to quote, "Assuming that one could build a machine that could recover a AES key in a second (i.e., try 255 keys per second), then it would take that machine approximately 149 thousand-billion (149 trillion) years to crack a 128-bit AES key. To put that into perspective, the universe is believed to be less than 20 billion years old."
- This, combined with the fact that the UMD propietary media won't be something you can burn at home should do it. Actually, it is just combining a complex technical way of avoiding piracy with a much more simple, yet effective, method.
But then again look at WEP 64bit encryption.. I used to think that was pretty much un-breakable... but of course not.
I'm not saying ths AES won't work I'm just saying that...
Just as the Tech Industry Improves, piracy groups will also get more advanced as time progresses.
There is, and always will be, some incredibly intelligent people involved in the piracy/hacking scene.
::In the voice of the MasterCard guy on the commercials::
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PC with monitor and the works - $1,000
Software to get pirated games - FREE
Cost of GTA: San Andreas when it comes out - $50
Knowing that either version is going to suck no matter how you get it - priceless
There are some thing money can't buy, for everything else (like Halo 2 and GTA), there's hype. Accepted everywhere gullible morons are.http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon24.gif
"The Works" for $1,000... Hardly... unless you just mean a monitor/box, some ram, a mobo/processor, and a cd burner.
Also you forgot the $.10 CDR or $.35DVD-R
Going back to carts is not going to happen, that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BJMFH
And maybe you don't have enough friends (or they were very legit), but back in the day, me and other friends would have back-up devices that allowed to load Snes and Genesis roms in the console, via floppy disks. About Neo Geo, you know there's something called emulators, that you don't even need real hardware, do you? Plus bootlegs carts.
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Damnit! My usual ratio bittorrent site elitetorrents is down! The other torrents I've found are as slow as the bad guy's horse... :oh_no:
The problem with this method is that most games are not completely bug/glitch free at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki
Don't Saturn games also have some kind of security ring embedded on the outer layer of the disc which can't be read with a regular CD-Rom drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki
It's true, that's why you need to use a modchip, or alternatively a swap trick (you put first an original game, let its security ring be read, then swap it for the back-up). Other consoles like PSX work similarly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony_N
However no trick like this has been developed for the GC. I actually find nice at least one console can't be pirated. Still, Ps2 is one of the most pirated and yet it has the better sales. And many people owns an xbox just to have it modded and use it for all sort of things.
cube = elite
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Originally Posted by Amano Jacu
* Takes notes*
:D
Good. Now we can listen to more whiny bitches complain about how "their" game has been "ruined" because it was leaked. :rolleyes:
I'll never understand.
That is right, but unlike the Saturn, the GameCube does almost constant checks on this security ring, and also checks record of the lens/drive activity all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony_N
It is also said that this ring is different for each game and it works as a TOC.
To echo Merc:
There is definitely a whole lot of irony in a game being based on theft acting like the biggest criminal on the planet getting pirated.
I bet if your character pirated a game within GTA:SA you'd get points for it.
Irony.
IMO, the GC wasn't really much pirated mostly because there's not a big GC scene to begin with. I mean, I'm pretty sure the PSO bandwith limit could be broken but why bother, there just a few games that you can't get on PS2 or XBox. Kinda like bootlegging the 3DO.
Now I'm not saying the GC is shit or anything but I can rarely find something I like on it. I love stuff like Paper Mario 2 but besides Nintendo's franchise games, I prefer the XBox and PS2 over it for all the multi platform games.
No modded ps2, so no go for me.
I'll just buy it next week anyways.
gta has always sucked since it was 2D
its like a game your little bro would play because its the first ps2 game he got.
OMFG you can beat grannies to death with a crowbar. etc
\o/
shut up kerndizzle :envy: :envy: :envy:Quote:
Originally Posted by kernow
gta is fun stuff in small doses.
gta > anything on the cube
woot!
/o\
~lol crowbarQuote:
gta has always sucked since it was 2D
its like a game your little bro would play because its the first ps2 game he got.
OMFG you can beat grannies to death with a crowbar. etc
\o/
fucking mainstreamer, some people just havent got enough gaming taste for the cube.
its true.
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Originally Posted by buttasuperb
/me shakes mean fist in the direction of the ukQuote:
Originally Posted by kernow
<3 kerndizzle
that fist is wraped around your penis isn't it you sickoQuote:
Originally Posted by buttasuperb
GTA 3 and VC are both great games, I can't understand why they get so much hate from the self-proclaimed "anti-mainstreamers". The game is not just about killing grannies: actually, I hardly ever go wild against civilians. I play just for the missions, and occasionally to wander to discover new stuff and secrets.
I've seen people that don't care about the story, they just use the cheat to have all weapons and then set all hell loose. That's fun for a while but tiring after it.
About each game in the saga being so similar to the previous, well, this is fun to hear in a neo geo site, with KoF coming every year. This is only the 3rd (I'm counting 3D ones only) in the saga, and it's been 2 years since the last one.
That being said, the game just goes to a black screen after the title I posted :mad: , so I can't tell you if this one is great
SHAKE IT LIKE A POLAROID PICTURE!Quote:
Originally Posted by FatGuy
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Originally Posted by Amano Jacu
The thing is this is why a lot of people buy and lke these games. Including most of the 'mainstream' the people that suck at games, but OMFG you can get a hooker and beat up school children. It's just stupid, I really don't much care for the game, I don't think its bad that people can honestly like it, but I think the sales numbers are artificially high by the bunch of idiots that buy the game for the previously mentioned reasons.
I agree completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithy
I have loved violent video games since Technocop, and I looove the GTAs for their violence, amoral aspect, and unrestrained gaming. I still go back to Vice City, pick a nice building, and then snipe Haitians off one by one for as long as possible until the military show up (then use the wanted cheat and start over). That and using the apache helicopter to shoot stuff up is a blast.
Mindless fun :) I look forward to getting GTA:SA on my X-Box.
For now I'll have to go old school and play Narc.
I second that agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mushiki