Wait a minute this chaps from England so we are on the same currency, I defy you to find an AES for £175 with a game, I have been trying on and off for months they simply do not exist and im obviously also not talking about some faded beat up piece of junk either, I lost out on one a week ago with two games both low end titles and it sold for 270, There is a nice boxed one without any games on ebay right now for about £250 with a day or so to go, You can buy them from japan for about 200 but then you have to pay as much as 60 for shipping, Im not saying that this is purely reason to by an X but i am saying you cant get them for the same money with two games.