Wars.. Do you support them?

yashiroTCM · Sep 11, 2004

In the beginning weapons were made for Defensive issues now they're hitting the exact opposite side of the wall

I personally HATE 'em in every single way and to me there's no reason heavy enough to start one... Humans are supposed to act by reason and not by instinct... we're not brain-void ANIMALS...

So... Do you support wars...?

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

yashiroTCM said:
In the beginning weapons were made for Defensive issues now they're hitting the exact opposite side of the wall

I personally HATE 'em in every single way and to me there's no reason heavy enough to start one... Humans are supposed to act by reason and not by instinct... we're not brain-void ANIMALS...

So... Do you support wars...?

I support war, it's that little extra special filler that makes the news interesting inbetween the Scott Peterson murder trial and the Kobe Bryant civil suit.

P.S. Without war we wouldn't have war movies. What kind of sick bastard are you to deprive us of cinematic classics like Apocalypse Now and Saving Private Ryan?

abasuto · Sep 11, 2004

War is a natural instinct in humans. Blame dirty mud.

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

Abasuto said:
War is a natural instinct in humans. Blame dirty mud.

debatable but still. I wouldnt want to live in a world without movies like Hunt for Red October...would you? :tickled:

PS without the concept of war we wouldnt have Star Wars, the background story of Indiana Jones and Civil War movies would be kind of pointless.

"Ulysses S. Grant vs Robert E. Lee: The Slap-Fight for Secession" just doesn't sound like an interesting movie

Infact if it's not war conflicts on film better be in dodgeball form at least...bastards.

DevilRedeemed · Sep 11, 2004

the issue is - if a war was being fought where you live, how would you feel? Abasuto is just lucky they are usually fought in the third world where nothing really matters anyway. support or not, goverments usually do what the fuck they want, no choice in the matter appart from voting.

SouthtownKid · Sep 11, 2004

weapons were originally made to get food so people could eat something besides vegetables all the time.

You can't ask a blanket question about if war is good/bad. It kind of needs to be decided on a case by case basis.

It's people who make sweeping generalizations about what is good or bad that causes a lot of the problems in the first place (not including this one). You can't be lazy.

BIG · Sep 11, 2004

It all depends.

However,I do believe that wars are meant to be fought. It's written into our genetic codes,as nature intended.

BIG-

abasuto · Sep 11, 2004

DevilRedeemed said:
the issue is - if a war was being fought where you live, how would you feel? Abasuto is just lucky they are usually fought in the third world where nothing really matters anyway.

After 9/11 it's safe to say mainland America is now fairgame for war.

PS- Define the difference between "terrorist attack" from any other form of military based attack ? I've yet to hear anyone explain this.

Big Shady · Sep 11, 2004

War, it weeds out the population. Sure death is bad in the short term, but in the long term its just nature sorting itself out. The closer and more in the way people get, the more likely conflict is gonna rise. Just look at Europe 1000AD-1800AD, wars all over the place cause they just couldn't get out of one another's way and wanted some group to conform to their thinking.

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

Honestly, asking Why is there war? Why have their been wars in the past? Why was there always war? is like asking one of those grand philosophical questions.

Here are a few more.

Why are we here?
Why is there evil in the world?
What's beyond death?
Why is life unfar?
Why do people hate?
Why is there suffering?
Why is the world split into social classes?
Why can't we all just get along?

A thousand years from now people will probably still be fighting, except for reasons and things that might be inconcievable to us at the moment.

People, Tribes, Nations come into conflict for a whole variety of reasons and tensions escalate from there.

It's just always happened for one reason or another.

SouthtownKid · Sep 11, 2004

Abasuto said:
PS- Define the difference between "terrorist attack" from any other form of military based attack ? I've yet to hear anyone explain this.

Terrorist attack means something that happened one day, 3 years ago, that you watched on the news, to people for the most part, you proably didn't know. Your favorite tv show got pre-empted for a couple weeks as news broke.

If by 'milatary-based attack' you mean 'war', then that is when your whole life changes for more than a week, you could be killed at any time, you might not be able to get basic services like running water or electricity, food might be rationed, you might miss your favorite tv show for a couple years, your home might get bombed out, you stop going to school to avoid the risk of being sniped, maybe you die, maybe some of your friends or family members die. That kind of stuff.

Average Joe · Sep 11, 2004

Scanline said:
Why are we here?
How did we end up here?
Why is there evil in the world?
What's beyond death?
Why is life unfar?
Why do people hate?
Why is there suffering?
Why is the world split into social classes?
Why can't we all just get along?

1) Sex
2) Luck
3) Yin and Yang
4) Um... bacon?
5) Suck it up, pussy.
6) Boredom
7) See #5
8) Because I'm better than you.
9) If we all got along then there would be no History Channel - and that's not good.

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

Average Joe said:
1) Sex
2) Luck
3) Yin and Yang
4) Um... bacon?
5) Suck it up, pussy.
6) Boredom
7) See #5
8) Because I'm better than you.
9) If we all got along then there would be no History Channel - and that's not good.

bacon? c'mon that's just weaksauce.

galfordo · Sep 11, 2004

Yes, I support all wars. From stopping brutal warmongering tyrants to committing acts of mass genocide, they're all A-OK in my book.

P.S. Try to make the question a little more specific next time sir, I don't have a clue as to what the point of this thread is .... :spock:

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

galfordo said:
I don't have a clue as to what the point of this thread is ....

What difference does it make if he's asking a philosophical question about why humans wage war, or about a specific conflict?

The fact that you're clueless is the dependent variable in every thread you've ever participated in.

galfordo · Sep 11, 2004

Scanline said:
What difference does it make if he's asking a philosophical question about why humans wage war, or about a specific conflict?

The fact that you're clueless is the dependent variable in every post you've ever made.

It's an independent variable, you fucking internet genius. For God's sake, go back to ITT Tech and learn fucking Algebra I before you come after me with math jokes.

SouthtownKid · Sep 11, 2004

Uh oh, galfordo made me laugh. That means I'm getting punchy and is my cue to go to sleep.

Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew · Sep 11, 2004

Scanline said:
bacon? c'mon that's just weaksauce.

i can't trust anyone who considers bacon weaksauce.

i hope you die soon.

in a war.

with a guillotine.

abasuto · Sep 11, 2004

SouthtownKid said:
Terrorist attack means something that happened one day, 3 years ago, that you watched on the news, to people for the most part, you proably didn't know. Your favorite tv show got pre-empted for a couple weeks as news broke.

If by 'milatary-based attack' you mean 'war', then that is when your whole life changes for more than a week, you could be killed at any time, you might not be able to get basic services like running water or electricity, food might be rationed, you might miss your favorite tv show for a couple years, your home might get bombed out, you stop going to school to avoid the risk of being sniped, maybe you die, maybe some of your friends or family members die. That kind of stuff.

Guess I worded that question vague. Here's a good example. The 9/11 attacks were deemed a terrorist attack. Yet, at no point ever has the attack on Pearl Harbor ever been called a terrorist attack. In some ways I feel the term "terrorist attack" is just another word for war. A new word the media loves.

The most common explanation you'll hear to seperate the two is motive.
That a terrorist attack isn't done with any plans to take over another country. It's motive is just to basicly cause chaos. Where as, a normal milatary based attack is done with the motive to take over the country.

I think that's a great explanation, yet it still leaves grey areas. The modern radical Islamic terrorist does have a greater motive than just causing chaos. They wanna rid the world of non-Muslims. Thus creating one giant nation of Islam on this planet.

PS- I elected to bold the word Radical because I in no way blame the religion of Islam as a whole for the action of a few loonies.

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

galfordo said:
It's an independent variable, you fucking internet genius. For God's sake, go back to ITT Tech and learn fucking Algebra I before you come after me with math jokes.

Well that's debatable. You depend on these threads to express yourself in a variety of idiotic ways. So the way you express your stupidity in any given thread is the dependent variable, whereas the topics being discussed are the independent variables. I.E. your ability to express yourself here depends on the existance of these threads, while the topics being discussed in the threads themselves can go on independent of you.

Tony_N · Sep 11, 2004

yashiroTCM said:
In the beginning weapons were made for Defensive issues

What makes you think so..

yashiroTCM said:
now they're hitting the exact opposite side of the wall

Now? Ever heard of the past wars..

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

buttasuperb said:
i can't trust anyone who considers bacon weaksauce.

i hope you die soon.

in a war.

with a guillotine.

no.no.no

I like bacon, I just don't agree that the afterlife is bacon alone.

Everyone knows the afterlife = Double Bacon Cheeseburgers.

It was weaksauce because the bacon was only one part of the whole artery clogging goodness that is life after death.

abasuto · Sep 11, 2004

Scanline said:
Well that's debatable. You depend on these threads to express yourself in a variety of idiotic ways. So the way you express your stupidity in any given thread is the dependent variable, whereas the topics being discussed are the independent variables. I.E. your ability to express yourself here depends on the existance of these threads, while the topics being discussed in the threads themselves can go on independent of you.

I smell an infinite loop.

syringe · Sep 11, 2004

Abasuto said:
I smell an infinite loop.

Care to elaborate on your theory Professor Abusto?

Sincerely,

Professor Scan0

galfordo · Sep 11, 2004

Scanline said:
Well that's debatable. You depend on these threads to express yourself in a variety of idiotic ways. So the way you express your stupidity in any given thread is the dependent variable, whereas the topics being discussed are the independent variables. I.E. your ability to express yourself here depends on the existance of these threads, while the topics being discussed in the threads themselves can go on independent of you.

Did you go to one of those "special" schools, where 2+2=? is a fucking discussion question? :tickled:

Anyway, yeah, keep making up definitions for mathematical terms, but don't expect anyone to see you as anything but a self-proclaimed e-genius.

Abasuto said:
I smell infinite poop.

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