qcf Paddle Destruction.

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Now, before I begin, I must explain the nature of my blasphemy. There were no arcades around my town, or in it, for that matter, growing up. So I was raised purely on console. The paddle/controller, if you will. When I went to Japan last summer, I had to retool my gaming skills severely, because the transition from D-Pad to joystick REAMED my eyes. I was getting slaughtered...

Eventually, I got the hang of it, but ever since I came back home, I reverted to my slovenly D-Pad using ways.

This is where I've noticed the problem. I've been hitting the KoF lately, and hard.

Doing qcf (the most common of all control sequences) seems to end up with me grinding the -> button the hardest on the end of the roll, and playing KoF for hours on end...

Well, I broke the damn button. :( All of you guys are probably Joystick Monkeys, and will probably laugh at this plight. Any fellow paddlers having the same kind of problem?

Also, do any of you joystick monkeys break your joysticks from excessive gaming? I'm just curious to an issue of durability here. Paddles are expensive, and I don't want to be going through them monthly. If joysticks are more durable, I'll just switch my preference and be done with it.
 

laurie

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What pad are you referring to? for which console?
Anyway sticks are not only tougher but nicer to use once you get used to them, a hori or custom made stick will last years.
 
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^^0

A standard Playstation 1 or 2 controller is what I break, the D-pads on those.

This custom stick you speak of...sounds expensive! :spock:
 

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Red Arremer said:
A standard Playstation 1 or 2 controller is what I break, the D-pads on those.

This custom stick you speak of...sounds expensive! :spock:

Are you using a standard Sony controller?
I suggest you go 3rd Party. When choosing a pad, be sure it's in a case where you can get the feel of it before purchacing. This way you're assured the feel you want.

I reccomend the MadCatZ Dual Force. The Cross-hairs are raised and there's a definate center to it, as opposed to the stock Sony pad where the center of the cross-hairs is imbedded into the controller.

Other than that, be cautioned that KOF is strict when it comes to motions. Be sure you're hitting completely down, down & Foreward, foreward for the QCF. And don't be shy using the practice mode to adapt to the stiffer controlls.
 

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The ps2 pad is one of the worst fighting game controllers. If its a stick for your ps2 then it wont be too expensive, Try play asia, or just a normal games store near you, There are loads of sticks for the ps2, If you want to stay with a pad the do what Kagerousama suggested.
 

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laurie said:
The ps2 pad is one of the worst fighting game controllers. If its a stick for your ps2 then it wont be too expensive, Try play asia, or just a normal games store near you, There are loads of sticks for the ps2, If you want to stay with a pad the do what Kagerousama suggested.

If you do decide with a stick for your PS2, be sure to pick one up that either has changeagle tops (true stick/ball interchangeable) or just the true stick.

I'll admit that I own one stick which has on it a ball. And while the stick motions themselves are wonderful, the ball makes it uber-annoying to use and I often just default back to using my MadCatz.

Now, If I could get a replacement part for that japanese ball, I'd have no remourse in leaving the pad behind.
 
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Paddles.

The only problem I have with MadCatz is that nearly all of their paddles have a single molded piece for the directional buttons. I like each direction to be a separate button, rather than a gigantic face plate that I have to push in the desired direction.

I'm fine actually performing moves in game, even annoying weirdo combinations like K999's DMs. But I am thinking about moving to a stick. If the damn KoF games would allow Analog support, I think I'd be alright...

What's everyone using for a joystick? I'm less inclined to go for a MadCatz controller just from bad past experiences. Logitech is okay, but again, this is only for paddles. I've never bought a joystick, and I don't want to buy some piece of crap that falls apart.

I require vast amounts of durability!
 

laurie

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hori just made a new ps2 stick, or you can get a soul calibur hori stick for about £20. do Kof sticks GGXX sticks loads. Any proper arcade stick will have a ball on top, only happ arcade sticks have the funny shape one as far as i know. Or the cd neo stick has a nasty concave top.
 

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Red Arremer said:
The only problem I have with MadCatz is that nearly all of their paddles have a single molded piece for the directional buttons. I like each direction to be a separate button, rather than a gigantic face plate that I have to push in the desired direction.

Every DPad works this way. The Sony Pad is no different. If you press one direction, the entire pad shifts. The only difference is that the mold used for the plastic in the Sony pad is molded to look the way it does. I like that the MadCatz is all on top, because it makes a lot of half circle motions easier, at least to me.
I took my on advice on picking a MadCatz. I went out, tested used and new controllers that allowed the buttons to be pressed so I got a controller that would be more than a joy to use in ease and execution.

Like I said before, go try stuff out and see what you like best. If you want a Sony controller, than just go buy a replacement Sony controller. If you want something else, try other options.

I'm fine actually performing moves in game, even annoying weirdo combinations like K999's DMs. But I am thinking about moving to a stick. If the damn KoF games would allow Analog support, I think I'd be alright...

What's everyone using for a joystick? I'm less inclined to go for a MadCatz controller just from bad past experiences. Logitech is okay, but again, this is only for paddles. I've never bought a joystick, and I don't want to buy some piece of crap that falls apart.

I require vast amounts of durability!

Looking for an arcade stick can be tricky. Most EBs will be stocked with the Pellican or perhaps a Naki stick. If you luck out you may find a SoulCalibur II stick. Really your location will vary as to what you can find available locally. Other than that, Amazon is a great resourse for comparison shopping. If you don't find anything you like locally, check the feedback on Amazon, EBGames, or Software Etc.'s site.

Also, do any of you joystick monkeys break your joysticks from excessive gaming? I'm just curious to an issue of durability here. Paddles are expensive, and I don't want to be going through them monthly. If joysticks are more durable, I'll just switch my preference and be done with it.

I wouldn't say that the one was more durable than the other when taken care of. Take your time to learn movments. Keep your cool. And avoid throwing either in fits of rage and either can last for years on years with general maitence to either.
 
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SCII Stick.

I've actually heard a bit of praise for the Soul Calibur II stick, and I think I know where to find one. Does anyone here have one/have used one? Curious how it matches up to the others mentioned (Naki/Hori/etc).
 
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