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"At a point in every person's life, one has to look into the mirror of a person's soul. ... My truth is that I am a gay American," McGreevey said during a press conference, with his wife by his side and his parents behind him.

McGreevey, a Democrat and former suburban mayor who became governor in 2002, disclosed that he had "shamefully engaged" in an affair with a man behind his wife's back but did not disclose who was involved. He said it was "wrong, foolish, inexcusable and for this I ask the forgiveness and the embrace of my wife."

Speculation swirled that McGreevey made the announcement to get in front of a civil suit, and in fact, McGreevey himself said that one reason to make the announcement was to prevent someone with knowledge of his sexuality and affair from exerting undue influence.

"Our sources indicate that this is a preemptive strike," said FOX News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano.

The man involved in the affair, allegedly a former government employee, demanded "an exorbitant sum of money to make it go away," a high-ranking administration official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity. Cabinet members and administration officials learned of that threat Wednesday night, the source said.

ABC News identified the man as Golan Cipel, who was going to file the lawsuit Thursday afternoon in Mercer County, N.J.

According to Home News Tribune, a central New Jersey newspaper, Cipel left his job as a $110,000-a-year adviser to the governor on homeland security issues. Cipel resigned after Department of Homeland Security officials said they could not share information with Cipel, an Israeli national who came to the governor's office first as a liaison with the state's Jewish community.

Gay rights groups said it was unfortunate that McGreevey felt the need to resign.

“Being open about one’s sexual orientation in public life should not preclude them serving their communities or their country," said Chuck Wolfe, president of the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund (search), a political action committee dedicated to increasing the number of openly gay and lesbian public officials.

“It is unfortunate that the governor had such an affair while married. If the governor had been honest with his family, and perhaps with himself, he may have had the opportunity to serve the state of New Jersey openly. If none of these other issues were at play, the nation would today be ready for an openly gay or lesbian governor," Wolfe said.

Timing of Resignation Helps Democrats

State Assemblyman Paul DiGaetano, a Republican who had already filed to run in the 2005 gubernatorial primary, said that the GOP did not force McGreevey out.

"While I am disappointed in his public life, I am not interested in Governor McGreevey's, or anyone else's, private life. Any effort to blackmail the governor because of his private life is just plain wrong," DiGaetano said.

By delaying leaving office until Nov. 15, McGreevey insures that his Democratic successor will not have to face election for almost a year. Had he resigned effective immediately, his successor would have faced voters this November.

Since there is currently no lieutenant governor, his likely successor is Senate President Richard J. Codey (search), a Democrat from Essex County.

However, Rep. Bob Andrews (search), D-N.J., released a statement shortly after the governor's resignation that seemed to express a desire to become governor.

"We are living in a turbulent time for our state. I am prepared to serve the people of our state in whatever position I am entrusted to hold. This is a time for all New Jerseyans of all political persuasions to work together for the future of our state," Andrews said.

Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry is leading President Bush in New Jersey, but the polls show the race to be somewhat closer than expected. Some observers speculated that the Democratic Party may have encouraged McGreevey not to delay this news so that it would not drag Kerry down in the polls.

Second Governor to Resign This Year

The governor has been dogged by several scandals involving fund-raising.

Among those caught up in recent scandals were his first chief of staff and former counsel; a top Democratic fund-raiser and former high school classmate; and real estate developer Charles Kushner (search), McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor, who was charged with trying to thwart a federal campaign-finance investigation.

McGreevey is the second governor to resign in months, following the resignation in June of Connecticut GOP Gov. John Rowland (search) amid corruption investigations and threats of impeachment.

McGreevey, took office 2 1/2 years ago, and despite inheriting a $5 billion budget deficit, he steadfastly refused to boost income taxes for most New Jerseyans, instead raising taxes on millionaires, casinos and cigarettes.

The tax hike was deeply controversial, but the governor managed to defeat several Republican court challenges, although the increase remains in legal limbo.

"It was interesting the way he was able to divide the state and get the have nots to go against the haves," said Charles Payne, a resident of New Jersey and CEO of Wall Street Strategies.

McGreevey rose from suburban mayor to state chief executive by his tenacious efforts within party politics, maintaining a power base days after he narrowly lost to Republican Christie Whitman (search) in 1997.

McGreevey never truly stopped that campaign until he won in November 2001, beating Republican Bret Schundler by 15 percentage points.

Born in Jersey City, McGreevey graduated from Columbia University in 1978. He earned a law degree from Georgetown University in 1981 and a master's degree in education from Harvard University a year later.

After briefly serving as a county prosecutor, McGreevey became a lobbyist for a pharmaceutical company, then a state government official. While in the Legislature, McGreevey voted for Gov. Jim Florio's $2.8 billion tax hike that prompted a voter rebellion against Democrats.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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I think it was a huge bombshell of a news, but it doesn't affect my perception of him. He has been quite a decent governor for the 2 years that he has been in office, but unfortunately being recently dogged by fundraising scandals committed by his aide, and now the threat that his office may become a target for political assassination, he did what he thought was in the best interest of this state. May god bless Jim McGreevy.
 

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Yeah, so he's gay.

And this changes, what exactly?

Who cares, who gives a shit, why do people even WANT to know what a Governor likes to have sex with?? Seriously people, why is this important?
 

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DARK ANDY said:
Yeah, so he's gay.

And this changes, what exactly?

Who cares, who gives a shit, why do people even WANT to know what a Governor likes to have sex with?? Seriously people, why is this important?


Well he also had an affair....and he has kids.

I could care less about him being gay, I actually could care less about the affair...but I can sympathize with him trying to minimize the hailstorm that is going to rain down on his family.
 

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RevQuixo said:
Well he also had an affair....and he has kids.

And again, why, in the FIRST PLACE, do we need to know this? He's a governor, what difference does it make if he has Kids, or has a wife, or has etc...

It's what he does as a GOVERNOR that we need to know about, not shit about his personal life.

OMG liek he has a dog, an i haet dogs, so he sucks +me hatez him

WTF people come on. :shame:
 

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ferrarimanf355 said:
The funny thing is that he's a practicing Catholic. :lol:
Catholic Church sex scandal anyone?
Hot Priest-on-Altar-Boy action?
 

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dumb fuck only came out because they had his balls in a vice. if there was no threat to his bank account or career he would still be pounding ass three times a week without his wife or anyone else knowing about it and he would prolly be fine with that.

politicians r so gay. :envy:
 

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DARK ANDY said:
And again, why, in the FIRST PLACE, do we need to know this? He's a governor, what difference does it make if he has Kids, or has a wife, or has etc...

It's what he does as a GOVERNOR that we need to know about, not shit about his personal life.

OMG liek he has a dog, an i haet dogs, so he sucks +me hatez him

WTF people come on. :shame:


OMG liek read my fucking 2nd paragraph.
 

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DARK ANDY said:
And again, why, in the FIRST PLACE, do we need to know this? He's a governor, what difference does it make if he has Kids, or has a wife, or has etc...

It's what he does as a GOVERNOR that we need to know about, not shit about his personal life.

OMG liek he has a dog, an i haet dogs, so he sucks +me hatez him

WTF people come on. :shame:

When you have an affair and you have kids it shows a bit of a lack of character.

When you also get married knowing you're gay, continue with the marriage, have children, etc. It also shows you're not capable of handling an important complex issue.

He shouldn't resign just because of this though, as niether reason warrants resignation from office. I'm sure it'll loose him an election though, which I feel is warranted for the above reasons.

On the other hand, you people didn't read all the news with this. Lets talk about his "boyfriend"

(1) the guy is an Israeli (not a problem in and of itself, but combine it with...)
(2) whom McGreevy picked up during an official visit (bad taste)
(3) and brought to the states (shady)
(4) and gave a job as homeland security advisor (Strike 1, BIG PROBLEM)
(5) which paid $100,000 a year (Strike 2)
(6) despite the fact the guy had no qualifications and (Strike 3)
(7) was a foreign national besides. (OMG YOU SWUNG THE BAT AGAIN YOU IDIOT)

I mean seriously, he just resigned to escape a lot of the crap that's about to hit the fan. I sure hope this costs the state Democratic party for a few elections, they've been screwing us for far too long.
 
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JHendrix said:
When you have an affair and you have kids it shows a bit of a lack of character.

When you also get married knowing you're gay, continue with the marriage, have children, etc. It also shows you're not capable of handling an important complex issue.

He shouldn't resign just because of this though, as niether reason warrants resignation from office. I'm sure it'll loose him an election though, which I feel is warranted for the above reasons.

On the other hand, you people didn't read all the news with this. Lets talk about his "boyfriend"

(1) the guy is an Israeli (not a problem in and of itself, but combine it with...)
(2) whom McGreevy picked up during an official visit (bad taste)
(3) and brought to the states (shady)
(4) and gave a job as homeland security advisor (Strike 1, BIG PROBLEM)
(5) which paid $100,000 a year (Strike 2)
(6) despite the fact the guy had no qualifications and (Strike 3)
(7) was a foreign national besides. (OMG YOU SWUNG THE BAT AGAIN YOU IDIOT)

I mean seriously, he just resigned to escape a lot of the crap that's about to hit the fan. I sure hope this costs the state Democratic party for a few elections, they've been screwing us for far too long.

On the other hand, many politicians would probalby have paid the guy to keep his mouth suht, while McGreevy didn't go downt he road into further corruption by admitting it. I don't hardly blame him for not disclosing this until his "balls were ina vice".

Not that any of this excuses the rest of it. But I do have one problem with "losing a few elections". I don't like McGreevy, and I'm certainly not shedding bitter tears over his resignation, but need I remind anyone how "conservative" Chritie Witman was in UPPING the state's auto policies making it even-fucking-harder to drive cars (and numerous other policies)? She was a bad as the most liberal of the left. If the NJ Republicans put up another character like her, there's really no point in partisanship, it all sucks ass anyway.
 

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ferrarimanf355 said:
The funny thing is that he's a practicing Catholic. :lol:

Catholics are mostly republicans. I should know, I was one for over 20 years. So, this makes no sense.

Then again, loving man sex makes no sense either, so...

Spike
 

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JHendrix said:
When you also get married knowing you're gay, continue with the marriage, have children, etc. It also shows you're not capable of handling an important complex issue.

This makes no sense whatsoever. You think being openly gay in the 60's as a kid would have made his life easier, considering he's also catholic? He was doing the same thing all closet gays did for most of their lives, pretend to be a heterosexual and trying to live out the guilt (hate the sin, not the sinner) for the remainder of his time on earth?

And the alternative isn't attractive either, be openly gay, can't marry under the current legal stature. Whee.
 

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RevQuixo said:
OMG liek read my fucking 2nd paragraph.

I wasn't aiming that post at you, I was aiming that at the other idiots who are all "omg he is gay i hate heem".

:eye: :eye:
 

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DARK ANDY said:
Yeah, so he's gay.

And this changes, what exactly?

Who cares, who gives a shit, why do people even WANT to know what a Governor likes to have sex with?? Seriously people, why is this important?

Tells you a lot about his sense of morals. Oh wait I forgot, we're in the 21st century and desire is better than God's design.
 

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Rang_86 said:
Tells you a lot about his sense of morals. Oh wait I forgot, we're in the 21st century and desire is better than God's design.

I take it you're not a buttsex fanboy? I got news for you Johnny Churchgoer: Jesus loved it in the can.
 
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Spike Spiegel said:
Catholics are mostly republicans. I should know, I was one for over 20 years. So, this makes no sense.

Then again, loving man sex makes no sense either, so...

Spike

False, actually. Catholics are considered remarkable because, as a group, they are much more "swing" than any other group. Just about as many are Democrat as Republican, and they have a history of going with politicians of both sides.

This is statistical, mind you.
 

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jethrek said:
On the other hand, many politicians would probalby have paid the guy to keep his mouth suht, while McGreevy didn't go downt he road into further corruption by admitting it. I don't hardly blame him for not disclosing this until his "balls were ina vice".

Not that any of this excuses the rest of it. But I do have one problem with "losing a few elections". I don't like McGreevy, and I'm certainly not shedding bitter tears over his resignation, but need I remind anyone how "conservative" Chritie Witman was in UPPING the state's auto policies making it even-fucking-harder to drive cars (and numerous other policies)? She was a bad as the most liberal of the left. If the NJ Republicans put up another character like her, there's really no point in partisanship, it all sucks ass anyway.

Well I heard this on O'Riely so I'm going to wait till I hear it from more reputable sources before I claim it as true, but...

Supposedly the guy was still getting paid his salary after being fired from the position, as pay off to keep his mouth shut till after the election.

And just because other politicians would have handled the situation in a worse way does not excuse what he did. :p I'm more upset about the corruption than I am about the fact that he cheated on his wife.

Whitman wasn't as bad as most of the left, she also had a largely Democratic state senate to deal with. While she wasn't great she sure as hell was a lot better than Florio or McGreevey. I'm hoping that we can get a good conservative on the ballot and we can then get some good reform. And besides at least the state Republicans don't have friggin scandals coming off them left and right.

This makes no sense whatsoever. You think being openly gay in the 60's as a kid would have made his life easier, considering he's also catholic? He was doing the same thing all closet gays did for most of their lives, pretend to be a heterosexual and trying to live out the guilt (hate the sin, not the sinner) for the remainder of his time on earth?

And the alternative isn't attractive either, be openly gay, can't marry under the current legal stature. Whee.

He knew he was gay, or at least "battled with it his whole life" or whatever that means. The last thing he should have done knowing he was in this state was to get married, and while married the last thing he should have done while still having these doubts about his sexuality is to have kids. And this all didn't happen in the 60's, it's relatively recent mind you.

Him doing the above knowing his personal situation shows an inability to appropriately handle a very complex situation.

One more thing that really pisses me off about all this is how he's trying to make this into some big gay issue. He's not in trouble because he's gay, but because of what he did with his jigalo or whatever you call it. Of course this doesn't stop the gay and lesbian groups coming out in support of the guy and lambasting his critics, despite the real issue being the large amount of corruption present here.
 

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meh....

not to sound a dick, but the reason why americans care so much about politicians' private life (like the lame Lewinsky shit) I'll NEVER understand
 

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People need to stop focusing on the whole gay part, and focus on the fucking shit he did. If his lover was a chick, then his ass would be getting ripped a new one.

I read somewhere that the date he resigns gives the democrats enough time to elect a new democrat? Is that true?

His lover is a huge fucking bitch - he was getting paid out the ass for doing nothing, and now he's sueing for more fucking money. What a prick.
 

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Shinji said:
If his lover was a chick, then his ass would be getting ripped a new one.

I have a feeling his ass is still getting ripped a new one.


PS: I also have a feeling that it involves assless chaps and a container of vaseline.
 

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kaos said:
meh....

not to sound a dick, but the reason why americans care so much about politicians' private life (like the lame Lewinsky shit) I'll NEVER understand

Dude it's not about him being gay it's about him giving his boytoy a $110k a year job that he was highly unqualified to do. That's $110k that I had to pay part of with my money in higher taxes I got hit with in the past few years!

The boytoy was Homeland Security Advisor and he couldn't even get a security clearance because he was an Isreali National. He was a freakin POET before he met the governor, he was HIGHLY unqualified for the position. This is wrong on so many different levels.

I'd be just as pissed if it were a woman he did all this with instead of a man.
 
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