Did AKIMAN design the entire cast of Street Fighter I, II, III, and Final Fight?!?!
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Buy the SF Eternal Challenge artbook.
You'll see which artist did which drawing.
You'll see which artist did which drawing.
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Could be, I don't exactly remember.seba_boi said:
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It isseba_boi said:I googled the SF ETERNAL CHALLENGE artbook you're talking about... I want this now!... It seems to be better than the Capcom Design Works artbook that I have...
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A lot of the early designs, posters and other artwork were also done by Shoei and Kinu, then once you get to Turbo, you start seeing my favorite : Bengus, aka CRMK/Ikeno. Pretty much all the SF3 artwork was done by Kinu, and I think that includes all the designs.
Capcom Design Works is not a bad book, and does a good job of giving an overview to Capcom's history, but it's weird some of the things they chose to leave out. Even though it's much smaller, I think Capcom Illustrations (Gamest mook vol. 17) is a better book. Fortunately, most of the stuff left out of Design Works is now included in the newer 'Capcom Design Early Works' book.
Capcom Design Works is not a bad book, and does a good job of giving an overview to Capcom's history, but it's weird some of the things they chose to leave out. Even though it's much smaller, I think Capcom Illustrations (Gamest mook vol. 17) is a better book. Fortunately, most of the stuff left out of Design Works is now included in the newer 'Capcom Design Early Works' book.
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???SouthtownKid said:
According to Capcom Design Works, CRMK and Ikeno are two different people... And their artstyles are totally different too... Ikeno did the 3rd Strike artworks, whilst CRMK did the Darkstalkers 3 artworks... I like Edayan's Rival School designs as well (seems superior to his Project Justice's artworks)...
I like Capcom Designs Works... It showcases many Kinu Nishimura works from Cannon Spike to Cyberbots to SFIII
...Gladly, UDON is soliciting Street Figher Eternal Challenge for English release... The other half of the book will be useless if I won't be able to uderstand the history and game ending write-ups...
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Yeah, it's a weird thing... In the earlier book Capcom Illustrations, one of the illustrators is credited as "Bengus", he even takes part in an interview in the back of thee book. But in the later book, Design Works, he is called CRMK, and I seem to remember something of his was now credited to Ikeno, who I agree has a different style.seba_boi said:
Whether Bengus or CRMK, he is far and away my favorite: character designs for Super SF2, the main illustration for Super SF2 Tournament Battle (the overhead shot with multiple versions of the characters looking up at you -- one of my all time favorite Capcom illustrations), the Gamest mook cover for Super SF2 (with Chun Li and Cammy on the bridge -- another of my favorites), the character designs for the Alpha/Zero series, all the character designs and main illustrations for the Vampire/Darkstalkers series (these by themselves are enough to make him my favorite), the Aliens vs. Predator illustrations (%#$@ing beautiful), that Club Capcom illustration of the map and main characters of Final Fight... the list goes on and on. I like Shinkiro's SNK art as much, but not more. That's how highly I regard this guy's work.
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So Bengus and CRMK are the same... I didn't know that... He's prob'ly my second Capcom fave behind Ms. Nishimura... I know the overhead Street Fighter shot you're talking about... Yeah, that's pretty cool (I got Design Works right beside me)... But I like his Darkstalkers 3 artwork more... That Morrigan/Lilith nude hug is just amazing!...SouthtownKid said:
What Capcom Design Works lacks though is lots of single character sketches (especially from Cyberbots and Street Fighter Alpha 1)... Needs more Street Fighter EX artworks as well... Now I don't know if those awesome SFEX drawings are by Edayan (Rival Schools) or Ikeno....
Mm-hmmm....
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Very cool. You wouldn't happen to know the home page for Bengus/CRMK...?Stephane said:
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And from the looks of the banner, he did design the SFIII cast as well as Star Gladiator?!?!... I already knew he did the character designs for Turn A Gundam...Stephane said:no, sorry, and i found the akiman webpage just after reading this thread
i was really lucky !
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I think you may be jumping to conclusions. I don't think any game was handled completely by any one person (I know SF2 was a huge collaboration between a bunch of artists), but pretty much all of the early sketches I've seen and character design stuff for SF3 (the first one) was done by Kinu. And CRMK did the Character designs for Star Gladiator, I think (he did SG2 for sure).seba_boi said:
I think my favorite Akiman work was that short Captain Comando color comic he did.
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Yeah, I may be jumping into conclusions too quick... Cuz that site has some Overman King Gainer stuff which was obviously Ms. Kinu's designs (I dunno about the robot, maybe Akiman designed that)... I forgot, CRMK did do the Star Gladiator character designs from what I see in Design Works... And I do remember reading somewhere that the SF director got the idea to make Blanka green, so Blanka may not be Akiman's design...SouthtownKid said:
Did Kinu really design the SFIII cast?!?... I admit, she did draw a whole lot of SFIII artworks (that Sean drawing of hers is probably, if not, my most favourite artwork by her)...
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Besides the finished character designs you can find in Design Works and in game mooks etc., I've seen a lot of half-finished looking stuff by her (as opposed to Akiman's SF3 stuff which is all finished pieces), leading me to believe she designed the SF3 cast. It's an assumption on my part; I could be wrong. Thinking about it, they probably worked on it together... I think the key is when you see something by someone, trying to determine when it was done. Prior to the game? Or in a lot of cases, sketches done afterwards for promotion or Capcom fan club or something.seba_boi said:
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Hmm... What you said about SFIII designing may be true... I can't believe I'm belittling my Ms. Kinu "Idol" Nishimura!?!?... What strikes me weird as well is that in the Design Works's Appendix section, there's a section introducing all the artists from Ms. Kinu, Shinkiro, Shoei, Sensei, to Ikeno BUT there's no section for Akiman?!?!?... That got me to believe that he is a very big part of the design team that no introduction was needed for him?!?...SouthtownKid said:
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I was just looking at my old Gamefan Books SF3 strategy guide (I miss those things), and they had a pretty good art section in the back. There are some character turn arounds that look like Akiman, and what look like some early, really rough sketches of Gill, Yun, Dudley, and Alex that are definitely Akiman. So I'm leaning more now towards Akiman having a bigger role in the development of the cast...
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i thought akiman did the sf zero 1 and 2 artwork, and x-men vs sf
its a 2 dvds "tribute" for the 15th sf anniversary
they talk and show stuff for every sf + interviews and so on
yes,even the ones from arika are included
pretty expensive
8000 Y + if i remember well
that ryu on the cover + all the other artwork on the front and back of the cases is from akiman
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No, that was Bengus/CRMK who did most of both of those games (but Dai chan did the SFZ 1 main illustration, and Edayan did some stuff on SFZ2). But Akiman did do X-Men (the first one).DashK said:
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Yeah... I'm pretty confident that Akiman designed (at least) most of the SF cast... And most of the Final Fight arts are made by him, so that covers Hugo, etc... However, in later designs, the characters were made cooler... With Edayan, Ikeno, Kinu, CRMK, were part of those later designs...SouthtownKid said:
I thought it had artbooks as well... :P I guess that's the only reason that it's in the AKIMAN page... Cuz he drew the covers...Fran said:
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Well if you're talking about SF2 you can't forget Shoei also did some of the early design and illustration work for the series, although less and less as time went on.seba_boi said:
If you're talking about original incarnations of characters, except for the ones who appeared in SF1 (Ryu, Ken, Gen, Sagat, Birdie, Adon, Eagle, Mike) Akiman probably did the original designs for most, if not all, the SF2 characters. For SF1, the character illustrations I see in the 'All About Capcom Fighting Games 1987-2000' book don't look like Akiman...way too crude (not talking about the CRMK portraits; I'm pretty sure those were done way after the fact). The main illustration for SF1 is uncredited...maybe someone no longer around.