Rumsfeld's handshake pic with Saddam, and a big dose of what Reagan was really about.

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This article is insanely relevant right now....read it and discuss. Here's my take:

This weeklong Reagan revisionist stroke-a-thon puts to bed once and for all the myth of the liberal media. Every news channel, from sunrise to set, nothing but sentimentalist clap-trap about how he singlehandedly won the Cold War, made Americans proud again, and made everyone's cock two inches bigger.
How about letting the AIDS epidemic slide, Iran-Contra, and getting into bed with Saddam Hussein while KNOWING he was using chemical weapons against Iran?

Seeing Rumsfeld shaking hands with a man whom we were recently told was a menacing threat to us just spells out everything we have done wrong internationally in 50 years of global chess to push our interests. It frightens and saddens me to think that 9/11 may just be the tip of the iceberg in terms of 'chickens coming home to roost'. You cannot jump in and out of bed with people who are friends one moment, then threats the next and expect no kind of eventual fallout. America's long-standing paranoid and murderous foreign policy must stop.

Don't give me this 'knowing he was using chemical weapons' bullshit, the targeting information was provided by the US. Rumsfeld wasn't a disinterested observer- he was part of making it happen.

Given Kissenger is still getting away with it though I fear Rumsfeld's fate may be no less plush.

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Good stuff. I'm already familiar with a lot of what was in there, but that's because -like you- I question the crap shovelled in my direction.

Bobak said:

Good stuff. I'm already familiar with a lot of what was in there, but that's because -like you- I question the crap shovelled in my direction.

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heh reminds me of a scene in the Beatles movie Magical Mystery Tour where they're shovelling spaghetti onto Ringo's aunt's plate at this restaurant and she's crying and telling them to take it back...kind of poigniant, prolific, and yet comedic in the same instance.

and what was america's foreign policy before our current one? we were isolationist bullshitters who were willing to watch our allies die at the hands of other countries. now i'll admit there are times when helping other countries if much needed and such. but there are times; like this one. where had we left it alone originally, not aided sadam, not aided the afghani people and sat on our thumbs like we used to do we'd have not had all this shit bite us in the ass today. but the same applies to vietnam as well. johnson said "i'm not gonna send american boys to fight a battle vietnamese boys should fight" and then we lost thousands of our "boys" yes our foreign policy is fucked up, and yes it needs a change, but in the end what else is there? become an unmoving rock? become an empire? or fuse isolationism with our current form to turn us into even more of a contradiction of ourselves?

Politicians shake hands with plenty of people that they hate - that's common practice in politics, big business, Hollywood, etc.

A handshake in these types of situations is little more than a bullshit gesture to keep appearances up. Go to a car dealership and see if they don't give you a nice hearty handshake just before positioning your ass to rape the ever-living shit out of you.

Anyway, our buddying up with the Iraqis/Afghans in the 80's was definitely a bad thing, but you have to realize what the climate was like at that time. Tensions were extremely high between the US and the Soviet Union. And, as bad as the things are that went on with Saddam and his countless victims, it was all small potatos compared to what could've happened if a nuclear war would've broken out. Necessity makes for some strange bedfellows is what I'm trying to say, I guess. I don't think we would've been able to take on the Soviet Union and play humans' rights protectors at the same time - it was just a matter of choosing which scumbag to side with.

The US aiding Saddam while he gassed Iranians was ust "appearances" and had nothing to do with the fact that the US hated Iran during the 80's. You heard it here first folks. Maybe you can be stupid enough to buy that.

from Zer0hue's link:

"At the end of May 1967, a week before the Six Day War broke out, De Gaulle ordered all French military aid to Israel stopped.2 De Gaulle denounced the Jews "as an elite people, sure of themselves and domineering."

ROFL ... imagine being told by the French that you're too elitist

To those who can't see the big picture...

The US military industrial complex needs an enemy at all times to stimulate it's economy. Since it's inception, the CIA has done the job of creating problems/enemies, creating a profitable [politically and economically] solution to said problem, and repeating the process ad infinitum.

Anyone who can't see this by now is totally braindead.