Us "not bound by torture laws"
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Decided not to go with it? They most definitely are torturing inmates in Guantanamo, which is why the US refuses to hold them in accordance with International Law. Invent a new class of detainee and treat them according to the mood your in.
What a result that is!
What a result that is!
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The bastards at Guantanamo are low life degenerates who helped or were apart of killing non combatants in mass and more than likely partook in killing some of their own... thus they forefit their rights to have any human rights. They should die a slow death indeed. Fuck the Geneva Convention... Fuck the Far Leftist Bastards who want to hand over more control to the worthless and GODless agendas of the U.N. furthering the march to a one world order... and Fuck hearing their pleas. Since they wanna' get fucked and sucked off by 70 virgins in Paradise freggin' send em' to them then. I'm sick and fuckin' tired of hearing about how those pieces of shit have rights. OR that a Burgler in your home has "Human" Rights... it's ridiculous. When you pass a certain line, THAT'S IT. When you're caught and you didn't embrace the very radicalized idealization within the "Faith" they supposedly had to going to an endless orgy {in the case of Muslim Terrorists} then who gives a shit? I MEAN REALLY!
Even with a little rough housing they'll get better treatment than what our men and women captured will get and that's a fact. MERCENARY X99
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Are you sure that all of the kidnapped guys in Guantanamo are low life degenerates who helped or were apart of killing non combatants in mass .Don´t you remember that some prisoners have been released after 2 YEARS encaged like monkeys, because there weren´t any proofs against them?Do you know that 3 teenagers spent 2 years in Guantanamo and finally it was found that they had been sold by local warlords to the US troops?
mmmm, I guess any person has "human rights", because the name says it.Even law protects the worst of the terrorists, more to someone who is just "thought to be a terrorist"
And one more thing:Why did not the late Ronald Reagan and col., including Rumsfeld, think about the risks of giving military training and weapons to the muhayidins in Afghanistan?Weren´t they called "freedom fighters" by the US Government?So, in those days there were good guys cause they were fighting the soviets?
mmmm, I guess any person has "human rights", because the name says it.Even law protects the worst of the terrorists, more to someone who is just "thought to be a terrorist"
And one more thing:Why did not the late Ronald Reagan and col., including Rumsfeld, think about the risks of giving military training and weapons to the muhayidins in Afghanistan?Weren´t they called "freedom fighters" by the US Government?So, in those days there were good guys cause they were fighting the soviets?
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Mercenary X99 said:The bastards at Guantanamo are low life degenerates who helped or were apart of killing non combatants in mass and more than likely partook in killing some of their own... thus they forefit their rights to have any human rights. They should die a slow death indeed. Fuck the Geneva Convention... Fuck the Far Leftist Bastards who want to hand over more control to the worthless and GODless agendas of the U.N. furthering the march to a one world order... and Fuck hearing their pleas. Since they wanna' get fucked and sucked off by 70 virgins in Paradise freggin' send em' to them then. I'm sick and fuckin' tired of hearing about how those pieces of shit have rights. OR that a Burgler in your home has "Human" Rights... it's ridiculous. When you pass a certain line, THAT'S IT. When you're caught and you didn't embrace the very radicalized idealization within the "Faith" they supposedly had to going to an endless orgy {in the case of Muslim Terrorists} then who gives a shit? I MEAN REALLY!
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Anyway, I realize that it's wrong to treat people like that - but I'm all out of sympathy, and it's not obvious to me that the ends don't justify the means.
What I do have a problem with is our guys creating standards that apply to everyone except themselves - there's just no excuse for that.
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How is that different than the simple-minded way they see us? It's not like we haven't killed non combatants, as unavoidable as that is. You want them dead -- fine, whatever -- but you need to stop seeing yourself as better, or even different.Mercenary X99 said:
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Mercenary X99 said:The bastards at Guantanamo are low life degenerates who helped or were apart of killing non combatants in mass and more than likely partook in killing some of their own... thus they forefit their rights to have any human rights. They should die a slow death indeed. Fuck the Geneva Convention... Fuck the Far Leftist Bastards who want to hand over more control to the worthless and GODless agendas of the U.N. furthering the march to a one world order... and Fuck hearing their pleas. Since they wanna' get fucked and sucked off by 70 virgins in Paradise freggin' send em' to them then. I'm sick and fuckin' tired of hearing about how those pieces of shit have rights. OR that a Burgler in your home has "Human" Rights... it's ridiculous. When you pass a certain line, THAT'S IT. When you're caught and you didn't embrace the very radicalized idealization within the "Faith" they supposedly had to going to an endless orgy {in the case of Muslim Terrorists} then who gives a shit? I MEAN REALLY!
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For someone who so often speaks of the sacredness of democracy, you sure don't seem to believe in the equal protection under the law that's part of it. Granted, these people are not US citizens and thus not bound by normal US laws, but don't you think it is a bit hypocritical to go into places in the name of "making the world safe for democracy," and refuse to lead by example? Our form of justice is based on the concept of Innocent until proven guilty, NOT the other way around. If we're truly there for the stated reasons, then we need to practice what we preach. This blatant violation of treaties governing the treatment of prisoners that we claim to support totally flies in the face of everything we claim to be fighting to promote in the Middle East.
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All terrorists, regardless of their denomination, should be summarily executed, period. Result: a safer world.
But hey, I suppose it's better to whine about their "human rights". At least till those all too human terrorists kill someone close to you, I suppose. Then you'd start to get a bit more...real.
But hey, I suppose it's better to whine about their "human rights". At least till those all too human terrorists kill someone close to you, I suppose. Then you'd start to get a bit more...real.
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Lovecraft0110 said:
I think you are missing the point a bit. as has been proved, not all the prisoners at guantanamo bay are terrorists. is it ok to torture someone who you think might be a terrorist in order to get information/a confession from them? I thought society had progressed since the middle ages.
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son_of_bael said:
Nowadays tortures are nowhere near as painful or depressing as they were in those times.
Remember what they did to every faggot back then ? they cutted them alive in half starting by the "rectum" and ending on the head. Of course the doomed body was hang with the head facing the ground.
That was a torture.
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Atrophyed said:
ouch. indeed it was.
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son_of_bael said:
Well, I can agree to that. BUT, I seriously think all terrorists which are proven guilty after a fair trial should receive the death penalty. As for not torturing them, I suppose that much could be conceded to leftists, human rights advocates, and other faggots. But executing them is a must. Heheheheh.
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Hey, I've always been pro-death penalty. Once someone is convicted of being a terrorist, yeah, go ahead and execute them. Same for murderers, rapists, child abusers, etc. Maybe even that fool who keyed my car a few years back (or at least a caning). But before it's actually proven they're guilty, it doesn't help anyone to be acting as barbaric as we accuse them of. It's like drowning the suspected witch back in Salem..."Huh, guess she wasn't a witch... Oh, well."Lovecraft0110 said:Well, I can agree to that. BUT, I seriously think all terrorists which are proven guilty after a fair trial should receive the death penalty. As for torturing them, I wouldn't at all care, but I suppose that much could be conceded to leftists, human rights advocates, and other faggots. But executing them is a must. Heheheheh.
To paraphrase you: "But hey, I suppose it's better to whine about their "lack of human rights". At least till someone close to you gets falsely accused of something, I suppose. Then you'd start to get a bit more...real."
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SouthtownKid said:
Read my post again. I agree with you: that's why I said "terrorists which are proven guilty after a fair trial". And yeah, I've read a lot of stuff about the withcraft trials. It wasn't a very nice affair.
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Okay...sorry about that. Just trying to point out there are other reasons to be against the torture other than being concerned with terrorists' "human rights".Lovecraft0110 said:
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Yeah I read the paper while taking a rowdy shit every morning. The WallStreet Journal and a few local papers. I still standby what I said previously though. If a person is breaking into your domicile, if a person and/or persons are proven to be criminal masterminds or if they are indeed a terrorist bastard hell bent on crashing planes into buildings and what not, then those fuckers don't deserve "Human Rights". If you do wrong onto someone you forefit them and that person or respective group has the right to torture or kill you deader than Hell.
...now excuse me I've to take a shit and wipe my ass with this thread.
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jethrek said:
Well on that I stand corrected then... But when we know without a shadow of a doubt and it can be proven, then fuck it. Hook that motherfucker's nuts up to a radio machine and burn his nuts off. In the case of a domestic distrubance, if some dude is caught by the home owner for B&E and the home owner blows teh dude away with Double X BUck... it's JUSTICE. Fuckers should be lucky we don't form a posse and do us a hanging Judge Roy Bean style. I don't fuck with people and people don't fuck with me. I think if that went across the board in the justice system things would be a bit better off.
when the other side doesn't respect that it's time to shit kick, torture or just plain flat out chop someone's legs off.
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The problem with the use of torture and execution on these guys in the fact that they really dont care. They are willing to DIE to make their point. Thats why they attack civilian population, and not the army. Its also why they drive truck bombs into Israeli malls, and smash planes into buildings!!!!
Torture seems kinda pointless on people who are THAT crazy
Torture seems kinda pointless on people who are THAT crazy