Xbox HDTV games ?
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1080i, only a couple, dragons lair, the matrix, that's it.
720p a few more, but it's pointless as 95% of HDTVs don't do native 720P unless you're talking DLP. Some sega sports games like NBA2K3, soul calibur 2, that's all i can think of.
Halo 2 *SHOULD* support 1080i.....
720p a few more, but it's pointless as 95% of HDTVs don't do native 720P unless you're talking DLP. Some sega sports games like NBA2K3, soul calibur 2, that's all i can think of.
Halo 2 *SHOULD* support 1080i.....
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Xavier76 said:
yea if u got a projector 720p is very nice.
there are more 720p games i just cant think of em, and they never mark 720p on the back of the case either.
Don't any of your HDTVs have an internal de-interlacer in them?? I mean, the only thing unique about a game that says it is 480p/720p/1080i is that the game taps the built in deinterlacer in your Xbox. What makes you think that the deinterlacer in your hdtv is worse than the deinterlacer in your Xbox?
The moral to this story?
Go buy whatever game you want, they are ALL progressive scan if you are using component (not composite) cables and a high -def tv.
The moral to this story?
Go buy whatever game you want, they are ALL progressive scan if you are using component (not composite) cables and a high -def tv.
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ResOGlas said:
well yes it's a given 99% of xbox games are 480p at least (though some will not run in 480p at all). But 480p is not really high definition, it's called enhanced definition, that's why plasma screens are called EDTVs because they only run 480P native. true HD is 1080i, or 720p.
DashK said:
It's nice to hear someone else knowledgable in the HD area
I understand that 480p is ED, but won't the internal deinterlacer in your tv upconvert all analog signals to display in psuedo 1080i, no matter what signal is sent to the tv? (other than a digital source such as DVI)
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ResOGlas said:It's nice to hear someone else knowledgable in the HD area
I understand that 480p is ED, but won't the internal deinterlacer in your tv upconvert all analog signals to display in psuedo 1080i, no matter what signal is sent to the tv? (other than a digital source such as DVI)
yes of course, my mitsubishi for example, can display 480p and 1080i native. so you can either run 480p material like games and DVD's in 480p or have it upconverted to 1080i, it depends what you're running some stuff can look better either or, but rememeber if you're running a 4:3 xbox game, even if it's 480p compatible, it's not gonna be 16x9 compatible, so it's gonna be stretched on top of being upconverted to 1080i, doesn't always look the best, but halo looks very nice IMO in 16x9 fill mode, DVD's look better IMO in 1080i. any game that wasn't 480p compatible would get converted to 1080i automatically because HDTVs do not run in 480i mode, that's why your cable channels can look shit if you dont have at least digital cable. some HDTVs can accept 720p signals and either convert them to 1080i (which looks really good) or it downconverts them to 480p, the only drawback to my set is it doesn't do anything with 720p period, but it's a small drawback since mitsubishi has the best projection 16x9 HDTVs on the market,, and the only thing that supports 720p is a handful of xbox games, when the HD-DVD players come out they are going straight to 1080i/1080p, so 720p is kind of like betamax at this point unless you're a DLP freak, but the next gen DLPs are going 1080p anyway.
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ResOGlas said:
you probably have a sub 40 inch 4:3 hdtv im guessing. most of those only do 1080i, because they couldn't offer them for the sub 1,000 dollar prices if it did both. i think the only 4:3 sets that do both are the big sony XBRs, and the 40 inch 4:3 xbr is like 3k dollars, my 48 inch 16x9 was only 1,700.
it's also why the projection sets that do 480p/1080i native don't do 720p native, that would probably bump the price up at least 800-1,000 dollars (which is why DLP is so expensive).
once xbox 2 hits, we shouldn't have to worry about any of this, all games should be 1080i standard as well as dolby 5.1, since that system will have more than enough memory to run that resolution. you'll notice the only games on xbox that do 1080i, are matrix, which has shitty PS2 level graphics and dragons lair, which is cel shaded, way easier on the memory. halo 2 should be 480p 16x9, if it's not 16x9 someone needs to be fucking fired, im hoping they do 1080i but i dont know if the memory can do it.
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You hit the nail on the head, my Panasonic is a 36" 4:3 crt. I chose 4:3 over 16:9 because I don't own too many DVDs, and 75% of my TV use is on gaming. Since most games are 4:3, I went that route. I understand that a lot of widescreens can use letterboxes to display 4:3, but I'd rather go the latter and use letterboxes to display the 16:9. I could have purchased a 36/40" Sony XBR, but the XBRs have really bad grounding on the speakers causing green color bleed on the edges of the screen after a few months of use. The XBRs also come from the factory with too much red-push, and it can't be adjusted manually by the owner. I was also considering a JVC, but the 36" didn't have a DVI input so I passed it up. Out of all the 36" 4:3 sets on the market, the Panasonic offered the best features-to-reliabililty ratio.DashK said:
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ResOGlas said:
Hmmm...sounds like avery wise decision. Regretfully it seems like Panasonic doesn't sell any HDTv's in Spain.
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I got the matrix today and even though its 1080 its a joke compared to underground , i dont think im going to play anything 4:3 on the projector , i know it makes the 480 games look look atari yars revenge all pixelated and composite is too blury . Since this device only last 2,000 hours at max before you gotta spend another $400 I believe im going to limit it to
Devices approved :
Xbox component
Laptop using vga-in at wxga
Dvd player
Hd reciever or recorder
Dc with vga in (some dc games do 16:9)
Laserdisc player with s-video ??????
The projector does work well though with 4:3 picture it doesnt stretch them out like other 16:9 tv's do .
If using compenent hdtv upscans and progressive scans then why are there upscan and progressive scan dvd player available ?
Devices approved :
Xbox component
Laptop using vga-in at wxga
Dvd player
Hd reciever or recorder
Dc with vga in (some dc games do 16:9)
Laserdisc player with s-video ??????
The projector does work well though with 4:3 picture it doesnt stretch them out like other 16:9 tv's do .
If using compenent hdtv upscans and progressive scans then why are there upscan and progressive scan dvd player available ?
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Because when HD first came out a few years back there were a couple of crappy sets that didn't have an internal deinterlacer. There's also a chance that the picture "could" be a little better because it leaves less for the TVs deinterlacer to process....Xavier76 said:
I don't know, either what I stated above or simply a gimmick.
