9/11 didnt happen because bush was in office

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

lets see what happened while clinton was in office

Act of terrorism against the untied states during his watch
uss cole
oklahoma city bombing
5 us embassies
first world trade center attack ?

us military actions :
serevejo
bosnia
mojdeshou
multiple bombing campiegns against afghanistan and Iraq

what else am i forgetting ?

THe point is all quida and terrorism isnt going to go away if we elect a new president or vote to become a socialist country .

In fact youll make it stronger .

Tacitus · Jun 4, 2004

Xavier76 said:
lets see what happened while clinton was in office

Act of terrorism against the untied states during his watch
uss cole
oklahoma city bombing
5 us embassies
first world trade center attack ?

us military actions :
serevejo
bosnia
mojdeshou
multiple bombing campiegns against afghanistan and Iraq

what else am i forgetting ?

THe point is all quida and terrorism isnt going to go away if we elect a new president or vote to become a socialist country .

In fact youll make it stronger .

*claps*

I tip my hat to you, sir.

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

oh heres another one early in clinton administration (maybe 1993) Sadam thought he could go take over Kuwait again so assembled his troops along the kuwaiti border .

Clinton answered by swiftley sending thousands of american troops to Kuwait and Iraq stood down .

I think this was called operation "just cause"

SSS · Jun 4, 2004

Xavier76 said:
oh heres another one early in clinton administration (maybe 1993) Sadam thought he could go take over Kuwait again so assembled his troops along the kuwaiti border .

Clinton answered by swiftley sending thousands of american troops to Kuwait and Iraq stood down .

I think this was called operation "just cause"

I agree with that move. Kept Iraq from invading another country.

I still don't see how you listing past Clinton actions is some how supposed to excuse Bush from his fuck up in Iraq. :spock:

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

SamuraiShodownSensei said:
I agree with that move. Kept Iraq from invading another country.

I still don't see how you listing past Clinton actions is some how supposed to excuse Bush from his fuck up in Iraq.

Becaue everybody is saying Iraq is Bushes war , theres no reason whatsoever for us to be there

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

And what im actually saying is terrorism is America war not Clitons or Bushes .
And you need a military to take of stuff even a dove like Clinton needed to call out the troops a time or to .
And if Kerry is made president were still gonna be in Iraq and theres still gonna be a war against terrorism .

SSS · Jun 4, 2004

Xavier76 said:
Becaue everybody is saying Iraq is Bushes war , theres no reason whatsoever for us to be there

Bush sr. did not invade Iraq, he drove them out of Kuwait.

Clinton did not invade Iraq.

Bush "dubya" decides on a whim that we should go flying into Iraq because he [Sadam] supposedly had WMD. :annoyed:

leepantalone · Jun 4, 2004

Americans are rather simple minded when they think that freedom comes to us for free. Blood has always paid the price for freedom.

Personally, we should nuke the entire middle east and be done with it. Sorry, but the people are too far gone, and the religion has stronger bonds than any government or secular ideal.

In short, we will never get these people to forget the violent conversion methods of their religion.... so they must be exterminated from the earth.

Sorry, but the hippies are all wrong. Violence begets peace.

leepantalone · Jun 4, 2004

Frankly, we need a complete revolution in this country.

NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. Their only concern is MONEY and POWER!

Taxes are out of control.
Illegal immigration is out of control.
Crime is out of control.
Big business scandals, cheating and stealing are out of control, from "respected" members of society.
The Homos are taking over the US media. They can take their dookie pushing agenda to some island in the pacific.
Schools are breeding grounds for Communism. COMMUNISTS ARE RUNNING THE UNIVERSITIES!
The thought police tell you what is OK and not OK to think and say.
The lawyers in our country have made theft legal and profitable. THEY TURN LIVES INTO MONEY!

Nobody in government cares about serving the public, only themselves.

We need a complete and total revolution in this country, and sorry folks, Kerry and Bush are both the wrong guy. We need a revolutionary leader to see our transition to the next USA.

SSS · Jun 4, 2004

leepantalone said:
Frankly, we need a complete revolution in this country.

NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. Their only concern is MONEY and POWER!

Taxes are out of control.
Illegal immigration is out of control.
Crime is out of control.
Big business scandals, cheating and stealing are out of control, from "respected" members of society.
The Homos are taking over the US media. They can take their dookie pushing agenda to some island in the pacific.
Schools are breeding grounds for Communism. COMMUNISTS ARE RUNNING THE UNIVERSITIES!
The thought police tell you what is OK and not OK to think and say.
The lawyers in our country have made theft legal and profitable. THEY TURN LIVES INTO MONEY!

Nobody in government cares about serving the public, only themselves.

We need a complete and total revolution in this country, and sorry folks, Kerry and Bush are both the wrong guy. We need a revolutionary leader to see our transition to the next USA.

You would like the US like it is in Escape from LA?

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

SamuraiShodownSensei said:
Bush sr. did not invade Iraq, he drove them out of Kuwait.

Clinton did not invade Iraq.

Bush "dubya" decides on a whim that we should go flying into Iraq because he [Sadam] supposedly had WMD.

In all these case American troops touch Iraqi soil

Again these questions :
4. Do you consider anthrax , serin vx and mustard gas blister agent weapons of mass destructuction , and if not do you mind Sadam having them ?
5. Maybe Sadam might not have been able to directley bomb us with these but do you think he could somehow give it to somebody who could or knows anybody in the area ?

Again we went flying inot Iraq because of over a decade of flat out non compliance of his signed treaty with us .

Everything else was just fuel to the fire , many are weak and stetched out truths some have even been found to be not true

leepantalone · Jun 4, 2004

Nope, just a return to the priciples upon which we were founded.

Those have been lost along the way thanks to the lawyers and government officials who only care about being re-elected and making their fortunes.

We really need an American Workers Party. A party that focuses on the average joe of the US, not the elite, wealthy and popular.

leepantalone · Jun 4, 2004

Xavier76 said:
In all these case American troops touch Iraqi soil

Again these questions :
4. Do you consider anthrax , serin vx and mustard gas blister agent weapons of mass destructuction , and if not do you mind Sadam having them ?
5. Maybe Sadam might not have been able to directley bomb us with these but do you think he could somehow give it to somebody who could or knows anybody in the area ?

Again we went flying inot Iraq because of over a decade of flat out non compliance of his signed treaty with us .

Everything else was just fuel to the fire , many are weak and stetched out truths some have even been found to be not true

Saddam was killing thousands of innocent people for fun... I am glad he is out of power. We should defend the defenseless. It is our responsibility because we are better than the rest of the world, and have morals that tell us that freedom is a human right and should not follow country and king, but every man.

JHendrix · Jun 4, 2004

Uh huh, Terrorism against the US existed before GWB, and will exist after.

9/11 wasn't his fault, nor was it really Clintons. Everybody pretty much fucked up, this is general knowledge that won't get debate either way till you start talking to wako's on either side.

If Kerry is elected the war in Iraq will continue on its current path but we'll probably get a lot more UN help.

If Bush stays in office the same thing will happen with less UN help.

I see little if any difference between what Bush wants domestically and what Kerry wants domestically. I think it sucks either way personally.

I think GWB administration is like a cancer to the Republican party. I've seen so many people whose ideals I agreed with go along with Bush's most assinine policies. If we get GWB out of the Republican party picture then I feel that the party and the country can be turned back into the right direction in 2008. 4 years of Kerry won't be much worse than 4 more years of GWB.

FeelGood · Jun 4, 2004

Honestly,

I'm just going to say 9/11 didn't happen

until you nerds admit that we landed on the moon.

Dark Rain · Jun 4, 2004

Fuck all that clinton did, I personally would forgive him if he raped my mom. At least the fucken nation wasn't starving and half the country didn't have to change jobs three times a week to afford gas.

FeelGood · Jun 4, 2004

I do have to say, the price of gas is really obscene.

thank god I don't have to fend for an SUV

Xavier · Jun 4, 2004

Dark Rain said:
Fuck all that clinton did, I personally would forgive him if he raped my mom. At least the fucken nation wasn't starving and half the country didn't have to change jobs three times a week to afford gas.

om actually the stock market crashed in March of 2000 and umeployment is only somthing like .05 higher than it was with Clinton .

But see your agreeing with me Dark Rain , Clinton was a swell guy and even he felt the need to go fuck up Iraq .

leepantalone · Jun 4, 2004

EvilWasabi said:
Honestly,

I'm just going to say 9/11 didn't happen

until you nerds admit that we landed on the moon.

I have a friend who believes honestly, that we did not ever land on the moon.

Dark Rain · Jun 4, 2004

Everybody felt the need to fuck up Iraq. That's out of the question. But bush is sucking all the country's money for iraq. I mean come on man .. we been there for how long, and what progress did we make? All that happened is that we embarrased ourselves in front of the whole world. And now he wants a draft? Where did all the heroic shit come from? Last time I heard he was a pussy ass jew who never served in the army. No offence to jews.

Oh and while I'm walking around town five hours a day trying to find a job .. the fucker was giving like 3000 dollars to every Iraqi citizen. Now that is unfair.

Honestly .. he should think more about this country's well being rather than bombing Iraq .. Saddam is already out of the question so let the people build their own damn country.

And about unemployment percentages .. two can play this game. Even though unemployment is not much higher .. nobody can afford shit no more. When clinton was around .. it was all American fun all the time. Now my friends won't chill on the weekends because they don't have enough money for gas to drive to my house.

Nash · Jun 4, 2004

9/11 didn't happen because bush was in office

that has two semantic meanings:

a) it wasn't bush's fault.

b) because bush was in office, 9/11 never happened.

i read it as the latter. i thought this was another conspiracy thread.

Mike Shagohod · Jun 4, 2004

leepantalone said:
Americans are rather simple minded when they think that freedom comes to us for free. Blood has always paid the price for freedom.

Personally, we should nuke the entire middle east and be done with it. Sorry, but the people are too far gone, and the religion has stronger bonds than any government or secular ideal.

In short, we will never get these people to forget the violent conversion methods of their religion.... so they must be exterminated from the earth.

Sorry, but the hippies are all wrong. Violence begets peace.

FUCKIN A!

:buttrock:

...Curtis Lemay would have been proud to have pushed the button indeed!

Average Joe · Jun 4, 2004

leepantalone said:
Americans are rather simple minded when they think that freedom comes to us for free. Blood has always paid the price for freedom.

Personally, we should nuke the entire middle east and be done with it. Sorry, but the people are too far gone, and the religion has stronger bonds than any government or secular ideal.

In short, we will never get these people to forget the violent conversion methods of their religion.... so they must be exterminated from the earth.

Sorry, but the hippies are all wrong. Violence begets peace.

This post screams the fact that you desperately need a hug.

Come on... come to Joey.

*hugs*

bokmeow · Jun 4, 2004

This thread reminds me all the more why I miss galfordo like I miss penile cancer.

Nesagwa · Jun 4, 2004

Yea lee, everyone in the middle east is a terrorist.

Violent conversion methods? What the fuck are you talking about.

9/11 didnt happen because bush was in office

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