Conservative Republicans... REPORT!

Just remember guys...

- The greatest Generation of America is slowly growing thinner by the day... The veterans who fought for all of us, 955 of which support Bush and/or the conservatisim way of living.

- You cant tell a liberal anything, because they simply dont want to listen

- Lincoln, (a republican) freed the slaves

- Truman ( A DEMOCRAT!) dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, killing over 250,000 people

- We killed 5,500 hundred Iraqi Civilians (apparently, all on PURPOSE) < Saddam massacred over 300,000

- Abortion = Murder (abortion is not a religious issue, tell me, if you read about a newborn child being murdered by sucked of there brain from there head with a vacuum cleaner inside someones home, wouldnt you be a little offended?

- Who cares who hates us, we'll still love them. (liberal)


Roll call guys! Please, lead todays society and youth out of this "hate America" and "anti war, kill babies" world there living in.

Yeah, you can flame if youd like, but Im just asking The conservatives to come in here to shoutout. I encourage liberals to start there own if theyd like.

*waits for galfordo to start posting*

And who was it who led that greatest generation from 1932-1945, hmmm?
Through the Great Depression and the most serious conflict in our nation's history?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A Democrat. Creator of the New Deal and all the things conservatives are doing their best to destroy.
And if we're talking about Truman, let's talk about the million GIs potentially saved by NOT attempting an invasion of mainland Japan.

Yes, the atomic bomb was (and is) quite a horror, but if we'd never seen one used, Lord knows what kind of horrific exchange might have taken place during the Cold War. Then again, if Florida had been nuked during the Cuban Missile Crisis, perhaps we may have never had to deal with that whole 2000 election fraud.

tsukaesugi said:

*waits for galfordo to start posting*

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lol

lol, What a fucking bait trap this thread is.

*secretly votes for Bush*

Loopz said:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A Democrat. Creator of the New Deal and all the things conservatives are doing their best to destroy.
And if we're talking about Truman, let's talk about the million GIs potentially saved by NOT attempting an invasion of mainland Japan.

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#1> Well with him also came the whole freckin UCC.01 forms, and how our Strawmen {Captial Lettered Indentities/Original Birth Certificate} is passed back and forth with millions in our name we can never touch because the system has a "Claim" on us even though they can't own the physical person. MORE INFO ON THIS HERE...

http://www.nmcservices.net/strawman.html

And the Welfare system that while it's initial aims were admirable it ended up becoming the far left's permanent agenda to keep first the minorities and then later everyone "Down on the plantation"

*How many ppl I see who's families all live in generational poverty taking hand outs, but that's what the left wants, people always wanting to vote for people who want to give you something, cause GOD FORBID people have to have some pride and actually work. I've forgotten already how many paychecks I never saw {about 3 months worth taken out} to pay for someone else's fuckoff $BLING $BLING "handout" taking lifestyle. My wife teaches a lot of the kids who comes from families who's parents don't give two shits about their condom leak children... THAT IS until they smell Money in a law suit for something misconstrued either a person or the system itself does, since they want to use the public school system as a baby sitting institution which it's not. So yeah, I'm real MOVED to want to see the Far Left start running the nation again.

#2> I have no problem with Truman and what he did to save the lives of the American G.I.s at all. It was the best course of action at the time.

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im conservative

You make a very interesting point about how the atomic bomb ending the war saved at least a million people. I've heard many WWII veterans say the exact same thing. This isn't a conservative vs. liberal issue, though...just a matter of opinion.

The arrival of FDR is something interesting. Before his time, it was the Republicans pushing for more government involvement. However, after FDR, you see a complete reversal in roles. I find this very interesting and, it would not surprise me if such a thing happened again.

Jon

Loopz said:

And who was it who led that greatest generation from 1932-1945, hmmm?
Through the Great Depression and the most serious conflict in our nation's history?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A Democrat. Creator of the New Deal and all the things conservatives are doing their best to destroy.
And if we're talking about Truman, let's talk about the million GIs potentially saved by NOT attempting an invasion of mainland Japan.

Yes, the atomic bomb was (and is) quite a horror, but if we'd never seen one used, Lord knows what kind of horrific exchange might have taken place during the Cold War. Then again, if Florida had been nuked during the Cuban Missile Crisis, perhaps we may have never had to deal with that whole 2000 election fraud.

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*sucks a babie's brain from it's head* that's good eatin!

It’s because of people like you that I will never call myself a Republican. I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ridiculous, incoherent list of generalizations. Liberals don’t like to listen? Neither do conservatives. Anyone committed to an ideological extreme is already predisposed to dismiss others’ opinions, regardless of merit. Truman, who you apparently dislike, was the most maverick, unpolitical President this nation ever had. Distilling the whole of his character and accomplishments to a mere party affiliation (in caps no less) is simply ignorant.

While I will agree the ideas and platform of the Republican party make far more practical sense than most of their opponents’, the real villain of the political process isn’t the people on the other side of the isle; It is the process itself. Our government has rotted and swelled into a bureaucratic leviathan, its tentacles strangling our every enterprise. All the grandiose ideas of our founding fathers have succumb to greed and indulgence, trampled by the boots of those craving wealth and influence. And because of ignorance, apathy, and diffidence we have allowed this to happen.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

That’s the Declaration of Independence, by the way. A modest document, drafted by some old scholar and signed by a few well-to-do land owners. It’s a rather stark portrait of the world in political flux, but remains surprisingly timely in its implications. I don’t know about you, but I say we forget these petty ideological differences and concentrate our efforts on revolutionizing this nation. Sound far-fetched? It’s worked before...

Who’s with me...?

I'm a commie bastard

and I hate you

zer0hue said:

It’s because of people like you that I will never call myself a Republican. I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ridiculous, incoherent list of generalizations. Liberals don’t like to listen? Neither do conservatives. Anyone committed to an ideological extreme is already predisposed to dismiss others’ opinions, regardless of merit. Truman, who you apparently dislike, was the most maverick, unpolitical President this nation ever had. Distilling the whole of his character and accomplishments to a mere party affiliation (in caps no less) is simply ignorant.

While I will agree the ideas and platform of the Republican party make far more practical sense than most of their opponents’, the real villain of the political process isn’t the people on the other side of the isle; It is the process itself. Our government has rotted and swelled into a bureaucratic leviathan, its tentacles strangling our every enterprise. All the grandiose ideas of our founding fathers have succumb to greed and indulgence, trampled by the boots of those craving wealth and influence. And because of ignorance, apathy, and diffidence we have allowed this to happen.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

That’s the Declaration of Independence, by the way. A modest document, drafted by some old scholar and signed by a few well-to-do land owners. It’s a rather stark portrait of the world in political flux, but remains surprisingly timely in its implications. I don’t know about you, but I say we forget these petty ideological differences and concentrate our efforts on revolutionizing this nation. Sound far-fetched? It’s worked before...

Who’s with me...?

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I'm with you.

zer0hue said:

It’s because of people like you that I will never call myself a Republican. I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ridiculous, incoherent list of generalizations. Liberals don’t like to listen? Neither do conservatives. Anyone committed to an ideological extreme is already predisposed to dismiss others’ opinions, regardless of merit. Truman, who you apparently dislike, was the most maverick, unpolitical President this nation ever had. Distilling the whole of his character and accomplishments to a mere party affiliation (in caps no less) is simply ignorant.

While I will agree the ideas and platform of the Republican party make far more practical sense than most of their opponents’, the real villain of the political process isn’t the people on the other side of the isle; It is the process itself. Our government has rotted and swelled into a bureaucratic leviathan, its tentacles strangling our every enterprise. All the grandiose ideas of our founding fathers have succumb to greed and indulgence, trampled by the boots of those craving wealth and influence. And because of ignorance, apathy, and diffidence we have allowed this to happen.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

That’s the Declaration of Independence, by the way. A modest document, drafted by some old scholar and signed by a few well-to-do land owners. It’s a rather stark portrait of the world in political flux, but remains surprisingly timely in its implications. I don’t know about you, but I say we forget these petty ideological differences and concentrate our efforts on revolutionizing this nation. Sound far-fetched? It’s worked before...

Who’s with me...?

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save your intelligence for another thread

I don't mind political debates, I just have a hard time debating with idiots (i.e. galfordo)

In fact, let me go out on a limb here, but I actually enjoyed debating with jhendrix, he doesn't dodge the issues and tries to tackle them

oh, and your still cool in my book

the roker said:

I don't mind political debates, I just have a hard time debating with idiots (i.e. galfordo)

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Speaking of which, where is he?

90% of all politicians are crooked, corporate grubbing pigs, regardless of their political affiliations. It's pretty sad when most people believe they are voting for the "lesser of two evils" rather than having a candidate they believe in. America, it's all about the money. TM.

zer0hue said:

I don’t know about you, but I say we forget these petty ideological differences and concentrate our efforts on revolutionizing this nation. Sound far-fetched? It’s worked before...

Who’s with me...?

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I'm with you, been preaching to the masses since age 14 with info like that very link I put up about the U.C.C. 01 Forms and the truth behind what is really the collateral and commerce behind the global community since then. I have spoken up about why the RIGHT is right about PRO-GUN ownership in contrast to the FAR LEFT's aims of Anti-Gun ownership for the very reasons backing up their Godless agenda that falls under the provision of the "War Powers Act" that was inititated by Abe Lincoln after the Civil War but never officially recended, thus the U.N. and their "One World Order" bullshit is all the more made easier. ---You're right though, Both sides have their good and bad, but the path to getting back to GRD {Grass Roots Democracy} unfortunately is going to take one of two things and that is either...

A> *Communist methods {i.e. "Required You Don't Have A Choice In The Matter"} to motivate and give PRIDE back to the average citizen who isn't interested in anything other than themselves and won't be bothered to so much as lift a finger or speak up on something that needs to be done... OR... B> ***Somehow through social commentary get enough people who do think outside the box but understand the foundations of GRD, and get the youth involved at the polls. People first realizing that THEY THE LITTLE PEOPLE are indeed the government and the people in office work for us and not the other way around. Then Worker's Strikes, Teacher's Strikes, Sanitation Strikes, and Truck Driver Strikes would go into effect... AGAIN, if the people at large who are more or less useless Token Citizens made that way by the perpetuated representational democracy which is really a front for Communists ...then along with voting the reps would FEEL rather than just HEAR the resolve of the blue collar foundation, and it could be done without firing a shot. But since we know that the agenda {The U.N.'s manifesto written in 1965 admits as much} to further dampen national morale, disarm the world and form a "One World Order" would be threatened it would more or less turn the nation into a social/political version of what Ireland's been dealing with over religion.

...I'm always up for spreading the word man, but spreading the INTEL to people after compiling it, and making it available doesn't mean they are going to listen nor heed anything. The average person has been so snow jobbed into their complacent lulls they'd rather rat out someone who was in their family for an easy $10,000 reward, or hide behind some excuse. ---Just look at how most either bypass my high context posts or attack the issues I bring up when they do read them, because it's not to their liking... only "Sentiment" has no place in being able to GOVERN ourselves as it was meant to be. To take the responsibility at our own local levels from the neighborhood watch patrol, to the county militia {not the National Guard} to letting the people from the ground up actually CHANGE what needs to be changed. It's a great dream to see the nation that despite it's faults I do indeed love and would still give my life in service of if needed, but I don't think it's going to happen. When the time is right, I'll speak my mind like I always do, meanwhile I'm compiling the knowledge needed for a future with very little hope for "Individual Thought", nor the backbone to stand against the rising of the tide if needed.

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Ghostdog, and Zero, you guys make some great points.

I do like Truman, thouugh, and I commonly agree with my far left History teacher on modern day politics. ill also state the all media is spun, and I admit, I was being kind of general when I say liberals dont listen... I meant Al Gore (wow, lunatic now, TORNADOES, Ted Kennedy, the women who was on meet the press a few days ago, her name fails me, etc.)

And it is true, the government is not detiriorating, but truly rotting into a bucket of bolts and nuts. But lets feed them our taxes to pay for the poor drunks and jobless (sorry, being general again )

And its also a shame how more and more people everyday want to just eliminate the Constitution, Bill of rights, and even undermine and take advantage of the Declaration of Independence, The living documents that make us Us.

Moose:
"You're what's wrong with society nowadays."


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LOL.
You forget it was also Abraham Lincoln who planned to segregate the country, had he not been assassinated? Go look into that one. There's your Star Republican. And in what way was he conservative?

Damn, you're just as bad as those stupid liberals. Worse, maybe, because people like you aren't even entertaining.

OMG! Are we eliminating the Constitution? The Bill of Rights too? Uh... how?
I bet the PATRIOT ACT was the work of left-wing liberals, right? Deliberately trying to strangle Americans' rights? Yeah

Moose said:

Abortion = Murder (abortion is not a religious issue, tell me, if you read about a newborn child being murdered by sucked of there brain from there head with a vacuum cleaner inside someones home, wouldnt you be a little offended?

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Man, what an ignorant moron you are. First of all, your grammar is beyond atrocious. Second, you're talking about things which you clearly have no idea about. The kind of abortion you are talking about is not even an issue in any informed academic debate concerning abortion. It's a way to make fools like you rally against all abortion. It's propaganda that you ate up like a piece of candy. The only circumstances under which the partial-birth abortion is performed are where the birth is going so horribly wrong that the mother and the baby will die. It's not common and is not a planned kind of abortion. A relevant abortion debate revolves around whether an undeveloped fetus is okay to abort which is not so easy to answer considering factors like if the mom was raped, if the mom has AIDS and could pass it on to the child, if it's a good idea to have lots of unwanted children without families. (It will be from this group of people that you get half the nation's murderers) hey I thought conservatives pushed for family values. So why do they want to force mothers to pop out millions of unwanted children? Opposing views there. Ideally they work together, but people are not ideal...

Well anyway, I don't need to argue against your other points because it's clear that you're just a propaganda sponge and don't actually read up on these issues beyond what is spewed at you by policitians. In some sense, you yourself aren't even a conservative. More like a "yes man" for conservative issues. Isn't there a difference? For some reason, I can't see galfordo's posts at the moment, but at least you can say the guy tries to form educated arguments for his side...

The funny part is that Moose isn't old enough to vote yet...so his voice is meaningless.

Ha-Ha. I'm old and I'm going to vote against your party.

Moose said:

- Truman ( A DEMOCRAT!) dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, killing over 250,000 people

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Had the bomb not been dropped and an allied invasion of Japan occured it was estimated there would be some 250,000+ US dead. US forces alone would have numbered at least one millions over the course of the assault, and thats just the combat troops.

Japanese casualties for the assault were estimated to be 1 million+.

*Edit: Although i guess it would have been cool had the invasion occured, i'm for sure we would have shot everything that moved and eventually poured asphalt and paved over the entire (former) nation of Japan so as to turn it into an American Air Base and probably a theme park, or the largest Wal-Mart in the world.

Just think maybe Japan could have become the 51st state. I can hear it now: JAPAN - the state we bombed into the Union.

I'm loving it.

Being the serious McCainist I am, I guess I have to rasise my hand.

But the current neoconservative administration, which is hardly conservative at all, should rot in hell along with its corruption, corporate greed, and religious dogma.

May Kerry kick Bush's ass so that the Republicans will have to put up a decent candidate in 2008!

You people bore me.

+1!

dmhawkmoon said:

Man, what an ignorant moron you are. First of all, your grammar is beyond atrocious.

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A relevant abortion debate revolves around whether an undeveloped fetus is okay to abort which is not so easy to answer considering factors like if the mom was raped, if the mom has AIDS and could pass it on to the child, if it's a good idea to have lots of unwanted children without families.

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Run-on sentence.

(It will be from this group of people that you get half the nation's murderers) hey I thought conservatives pushed for family values.

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You start the sentence with a lowercase "h". The sentence inside the parenthesis is self-contained so it doesn't count.

Opposing views there.

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Here? There? Where? Sentence fragment.

More like a "yes man" for conservative issues.

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Incomplete sentence, you forgot to use a verb.

Isn't there a difference? For some reason, I can't see galfordo's posts at the moment, but at least you can say the guy tries to form educated arguments for his side...

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Obviously you don't read his posts. Or can't read. Or both.