WTF is up with the "Fuck America/Amerikka" shit???

Mike Shagohod

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So far I've only seen two ppl with sigs of the American flag in it with the words Fuck America! on it, but my question is, is WTF is up with that? I understand we all have issues with things the nation does at times, but dammit guys don't hate the whole country because of it. If the little people {i.e. "Blue Collar"} would actually take the time to band together and set aside their freckin' differences and see they are the backbone of the nation overall and ultimately have the power... if today's youth would get with the old men {and there's some out there still} who would lead them at the polls into ousting the degenerate pieces of shit who have been within the political feild a lot longer than some of us have been alive... if the average person would just "Give a rats ass" enough to get involved some of those issues would be changed without so much as a shot being fired in violence. ---Consolidated "Worker's Strikes"... "Teacher Strikes"... "Active Voting" and better understanding that if the 2nd Amendment goes nothing else means shit because you have no means to resist tyanny of any sort. THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD ALL PROMOTE AND STRIVE FOR.

...so why all the dessention? You hate the county so much why not pack up your bags and go live in the nation you think is soooooo much better. Yeah, I understand it's part of your right to burn the flag or do other dumb shit, but people did DIE so that others could sleep ignorant at night, and others to be the NIMBY minded TCs they are. For the love of GOD, someone elaborate on all the mockery some of you are representin!

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...Keep your head up and walk tall, we are the last great Empire on Earth before all goes to shit in the upcomming future. Not perfect, a little too arrogant at times true, but still free and worthy of dying for providing one is given the opportunity to enter righteous combat on it's behalf. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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I did it to piss Dojang Jon off....... Just didnt bother to change it back yet.

I think I'll keep it just to make you mad though :p
 

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ANTI-FLAG

Good band...

But I don't really agree with their views... Kill the Wealthy, America Sux Etc....
 

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You love this country until the MAN blames you for something you diddn't do.....

But I made an ASS out of THE MAN. and THE MAN is under investgation by THE MAN.

DOes that make sense?
 

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Thereverend said:
You love this country until the MAN blames you for something you diddn't do.....

...well that's when you show em' how good your own "Fangs" work and how deep then. ---Still though I just find it a bit strange is all. But I'm sure it's like always everyone agreeing to disagree. :(

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Nesagwa

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Mercenary X99 said:
...well that's when you show em' how good your own "Fangs" work and how deep then. ---Still though I just find it a bit strange is all. But I'm sure it's like always everyone agreeing to disagree. :(

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Would it make you feel better if I put (n Government) after Fuck America?

The "YEAH! REBELLION AND SHIT!" didnt hit your sarcasm detector at all?
 

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Thereverend said:
You love this country until the MAN blames you for something you diddn't do.....

But I made an ASS out of THE MAN. and THE MAN is under investgation by THE MAN.

DOes that make sense?

That makes no sense at all. Care to elaborate?

Also, you forgot to capitalize the first 'the', and you failed to capitalize 'and'.

...Didn't only has two 'd' s...
 

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CurtWRX said:
ANTI-FLAG

Good band...

But I don't really agree with their views... Kill the Wealthy, America Sux Etc....


I really cant say fuck America, cause really its the best place to live. But the only thing i have agiast america is its goverment....i hate it. Another thing i have agiast it is the nationalism that it sends out to people, which to me is just lame. America isnt a "free" there is no "liberty"

To be free you have to have no control to have no control you must not have power. Power is the goverment

*spelling errors are arware of*


Anti - Flag = fuck them. they talk to much shit. and if you read there lyrics and look at there life style.....there talkin shit to themselfs
 

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Shitting on American is the hip thing to do - it shows how "cultured" and "in touch" you are with the rest of the world .... or with the rest of the idiots of the world, at least.

Just a bunch of morons who are looking for attention - most of whom wouldn't even consider leaving.
 

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Y'all might be a bit surprised at my take on this.

The ideals America is founded on, that all men are created equal and that we are all entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, are absolute gold. By that measure, we ARE the light of the world. The real idea of freedom, unlike the bogus 'freedom' W is so hell-bent on delivering to the Iraqi people whether they like it or not, is supposed to SELL ITSELF. Why do you think all those people died trying to escape East Germany over the Berlin Wall? Why do you think Communism failed? It's because those totalitarian systems run contrary to the human spirit. Given enough time, those citizens got sick and tired of their limited choices in life, and went out and decided to fucking do something about it.
This is why George W.'s neoconservative Middle Eastern strategy is so utterly doomed. People are not conditioned to the idea of democracy until they get a taste of it on their OWN and decide that it's worth fighting for. Say we had stayed the fuck out of Iraq...yes, some Iraqis may have continued to die at the hands of Saddam's merciless regime (although we have to wonder if it would have been anywhere near the 5,500 civilians we've killed since the war began). But he would have remained completely cut off and isolated, doomed to die a natural death, upon which a power struggle likely may have ensued. Instead, all we have done is completely enrage the entire Arab world, and Lord knows how many new terrorists we have created. Explain to me how killing 5,500 Iraqi civilians has done ANYTHING to make us safer???

$200,000,000,000 has been spent thus far on invading and pacifying Iraq. Meanwhile, many Americans continue to lack health care, access to job training, decent public transportation, and we still have airports that lack the necessary security equipment to prevent further terrorist assaults. If anything, we are more vulnerable now than even before September 11th, thanks to a largely enraged Arab community, many of whom would probably cheer on another 9.11-type attack.

I love my country...but Uncle Sam has his head up his ass right now.
 

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Quite agree with Loopz, the philosophy behind America is solid, it's the execution of that philosophy that leaves something to be desired.
 

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Loopz said:
Explain to me how killing 5,500 Iraqi civilians has done ANYTHING to make us safer???
oh its a heck of a lot more than that many times over , but sadams killed that many X3 before lunch on a bad day .
 
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Underdog

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I slam my country because I love my country. If no one points out our faults, we can't fix them right? Not exactly the same since I'm not from the States, but same idea.

On a brief tangent: What's with this whole "You don't understand, you aren't from America!" attitude people have lately? You make one comment and you get an earful about how it's their country and they'll stick up for it no matter what. Well jerky, believe it or not I want America to be strong too. You're one of our chief allies and trading partners, what good does it do us if you're doing lousy? (Not related to anyone here, just something I've been hearing lately.)
 

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As long as american troops occupy Iraq, and GWB is in office, America will continue to be a target of hate by many people.

More americans need to vote to get that asshat and his retarded cabinet out of office.

edit: especially lazy, fast food munching cushy-ass student types. get hit by a truck or change your country.
 
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i just saw nes's sig and took it further. its done in total sarcasm mind you.

i personally cant stand the anti american bullshit, and find most of it (especially the anarchy punk rockers) hillarious.

i also dont have any problems with bush.

and its 3 k's, you know, kkk
 

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Loopz said:
$200,000,000,000 has been spent thus far on invading and pacifying Iraq. Meanwhile, many Americans continue to lack health care, access to job training, decent public transportation, and we still have airports that lack the necessary security equipment to prevent further terrorist assaults. If anything, we are more vulnerable now than even before September 11th, thanks to a largely enraged Arab community, many of whom would probably cheer on another 9.11-type attack.

I love my country...but Uncle Sam has his head up his ass right now.


I'd like EVERY american on this board and in the real life faced the reality and admit what you've said
then things would start changing. I'm sure
sometimes I think that most of americans agre with the above statement but are kinda "scared" (??) to admit it....
maybe I'm wrong but that's my feeling
 

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Thereverend said:
You love this country until the MAN blames you for something you diddn't do.....

But I made an ASS out of THE MAN. and THE MAN is under investgation by THE MAN.

DOes that make sense?

I can't believe you got even more stupid.

Your life doesn't make sense. Are you old enough to buy a gun?

Later

beef0
 

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I love America, man. Whoever made fuck America and who's in America, you should move to one of third countries, and see how it's over there. US Americans are spoiled and we take a helluva lot of things for granted. Over in Africa, those people are lucky to find a pot to piss in, forget about AC. So, I just think that us Americans don't know what to do with our money.
 

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I gotta' give it to you Loopz those were some "Sound" reasons indeed. However, {and we'll have to agree to disagree on this note} I don't think GWB {while not the man I had voted for} did the wrong thing in the manner that the world wants to percecute him for. It could have been a different man in office that at this point in history had to be there to make the choice to involve our military into that region of the world. ---The U.N. is inept at it's job, and is always looking out for the interests of the European nations who had more to lose from the USA "Storm Riding" into IRAQ when Saddam kept dicking around with the WMD Inspections. This is why they kept dragging their feet when Saddam would renege on an "inspection". Nations like France, Russia, Germany and a few others {I tend to forget them all} had their own measures of influence in IRAQ and the general middle east itself, and in ways that contributed to the old regime that did not help the people who suffered under Saddam's rule.

...my issues with GWB and IRAQ Part II, along with the way the military is run is the unpreparedness of it all. ---You don't send in a military that is dependent on "Technology" who announces it's aims with surgical airstrikes being done as CNN and others within the affilliated press cover it, you take the time to have Cadres of former so and sos from the region in question along with SF troops train the Infantry on how to combat the situation at hand on the target soil in a manner that allows for absolute victory. ---Just like how the USA trained the first Airborne Units for 2 years before they made the jump into Nazi Germany on D-Day... the Cadre forms devoted units that would make up about two 2,500 manned Brigades. Each individual learns to live off the land he's going to the same way the people there do... eats as they eat, smell like they smell, sweat as they sweat and would be initially sent in with Soviet Bloc weapons and in parallel with standard "Basic Training" the doctrines and mindset of the target enemy. The problem we have right now more than anything is that our soldiers have pride in being the best because we are technologically advanced, but in truth we do not have the superior training in how to stay alive, nor are allowed to have PRIDE in what we're doing. The Eastern Armies {Russia. China, Germany, former IJA} all stress individual "Initiative" within the lower echelon that is actually in the feild combating things. Thus the Eastern and even Middle Eastern mindset has an Infantry man who is taught it's not impossible to Kill a tank with their bear hands... {not punching it, meaning rather to get in close and be able to take out what seems impossible}... They know how to see better at night than an American solider with NVGs on, which is the only reason the USA "OWNZ THE NIGHT" as it's stated etc. On our side of things, our soldiers face possibly going to federal prison if they at a Squad level got cut off from Sattelite Intel from a higher up or was not given direct orders to do something and they took the initiative and kicked ass. Eastern Armies might be killed for NOT taking the initiative.

...thus I'm pissed that GWB and the brass overrall didn't plan this out a bit better not just for IRAQ or Afghanistan, but overall retrun to the "Brown Shoe" way of training with emphasis on the respective area of military operations. When our forces go in, they should be trained to survive without such reliance on air cover {which announces ground forces are coming, no more element of surprise}, the soldier should not be worried about "This Rule" or "That Rule" but be able to take the initiative as neccessary and the upper echelon actually listen to their Non Coms and grunts in the feild. Initial deployment with enemy weapons and munitions then alleviates logistic problems other than occassional night time "Air Drops" because most of the ammo is going to be OSP off the dead. Since Bush himself said the war on terror is ging to be a protracted war, then from this point on SPEC OPS members need to be assigned in small numbers amongst the regular ground pounders for better success, and training should focus more on "Guerrilla Warfare" rather than "Conventional" which is how we storm rode into there after aerial bombardments. People like to say that grunts are a thing of the past... HAH! *Quite the contrary, they are still the backbone of what gets done. Thus the US Military needs to refocus and re-train using older "better" methods with emphasis on enemy tactics with the people coming in. But I guess the people within the DOD never bothered to read Major T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom, do not heed the quote of Ho Chi Mihn in 1946 when the Vietnamese fought the French when he said: "It will be a war between an elephant and a tiger. If the tiger stands still, the elephant will crush him, so the tiger nerver stands still.". If we're going to continue to commit ourselves to a "Protracted War" on Terrorism, then we need to restructure and re-train the men and women within the ranks before sending them out in harms way. We need the advisors from former Spetsnaz and French Foreign Legion members who are now "Mercs" to work with the designated Cadre. Hell with the training and knowledge I've had over the last 21 of 26 years outside the military I could very well help write the freggin manual and "Consult" in such a formation, but since the lower echelon isn't supposed to know anything, our people will continue to die in horrible ways to poorly equipped, non technological enemies... but I doubt the DOD is going to admit their son or daughter didn't really learn how their enemy thinks, wasn't put into a 6 month intensive crash course in the target objective's language, etc. That's the travesty of it all to me. Everything that needs to be done is so obvious, but yet we rely on what we see not what we could know. We rely on Technology over common sense and self initiative at a smaller level within the bigger war machine! A "Chalk" {12 men} spread out into 3 Squads of 4 can do more damage than a Company of men charging in with tanks and Helo overhead announcing our intentions, but no one sees this! :mad: This is how the enemy operates and does things, and until we meet our target objectives with the same mindset, we we continue to have division back here in the states between the populace who see our men dying over there when if allowed to and with better understanding of their enemy, better understanding and usage of microterrain and more, might very well not be dead. That's the big cluster fuck that pisses me off about the nation, but I don't hate the whole country nor want to burn the flag because of it either.

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kaos said:
I'd like EVERY american on this board and in the real life faced the reality and admit what you've said
then things would start changing. I'm sure
sometimes I think that most of americans agre with the above statement but are kinda "scared" (??) to admit it....
maybe I'm wrong but that's my feeling

????

So everything that Loopz believes in is reality, huh? I don't think so - those are his opinions, nothing more. Nobody here is capable of talking about reality in Iraq, Afghanistan, or politics in general. All we have the ability to do is choose a side and hope that it's the right one.
 

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galfordo said:
????

So everything that Loopz believes in is reality, huh? I don't think so - those are his opinions, nothing more. Nobody here is capable of talking about reality in Iraq, Afghanistan, or politics in general. All we have the ability to do is choose a side and hope that it's the right one.

no man, those are FACTS. not opinions

and anyway He was speaking about internal problems
He just said how much has been spent for wars. money that coulda been used for healthcare or other
He didnt mention anything about those wars....at least in that post
so dont start turning things as It's more comfortable for you
if you're part of that VERY rich minority, then I get your point, you obviously dont give a shit about healthcare, transportations and such......why would you?

on a side note
national pride is a wonderful thing, but objectivity is also cool in my book
I'm proud to be a motherfuckin' wop, I feel like my people has spawned the rest of civilised world, I come from the south, I got kinda 3000 years of history and culture behind me, everybody can suck my fat cawk

but I dont have any problem to admit i'm like shamed of actual italian govt., 100 time worse than Bush adminst.
and shamed of every single idiot that voted for actual prime minister: a thief, a faggot, that is just embarassing my country

and that's it
as I said I've like a feeling that some of you yanks( :smirk: ) is like "scared" of something.....but dont know exactly what
 
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