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Alright This year has been really fucked up for me. I got waitlisted at 4 schools. Lehigh, Boston University, University of Maryland College Park, and Suny Binghamton. Ive narrowed it down to Binghamton and Maryland due to the costs.
Binghamton is an academic school in the middle of nowhere. However, I would get a car/ study abroad if I went there due to instate costs (13k). Maryland is the total package.. fraternities, DC, Baltimore, Sports, tons of school spirit. However the cost there is almost double binghamton and there goes all the extra stuff. I would be a poor college student at Maryland but its considered a better school than binghamton.

Where should I go?
 

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whichever one you want to go to i suppose. enrollemt fees are fucking rediculous but if u hate ur time at a college there is no point to it, poor college student is fun but do you have to live at home either way?

me i chose to drop out so i did,. :buttrock: i learned pretty quickly that college is a farce. :buttrock: now i get to push a broom for the rest of my life!!! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

better than a job that wants to know what school i went to anyway., :mad:
 

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Binghamton isn't in the middle of nowhere.

It's in the middle of beautiful New York State!
 

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Oh and I got off the waitlist at Binghamton and Maryland so far.. Im waiting for the other 2.

When you come from NYC.... Binghamton is in the middle of nowhere lol
 

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Yah I had an interesting college app experience too this year... didn't get into my first choice, was a tough year to apply anywhere, ended up signing on for Gtown and now I think its the best fit for me anyway. Talk about ridiculous enrollment fees :eek:

But if you're at a school you enjoy, you more likely to do better, get better job, and buy yourself a bmw or something in a year or two after graduation. I thought every college student was poor anyways :)
 

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Chairman Kaga said:
Yah I had an interesting college app experience too this year... didn't get into my first choice, was a tough year to apply anywhere, ended up signing on for Gtown and now I think its the best fit for me anyway. Talk about ridiculous enrollment fees :eek:

But if you're at a school you enjoy, you more likely to do better, get better job, and buy yourself a bmw or something in a year or two after graduation. I thought every college student was poor anyways :)

What was your first choice? Where did you apply?
 

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Frame Gride 2 said:
What was your first choice? Where did you apply?

Nah my first choice was Yale, but it was kind of forced on me by parents. Got denied from therr.

Also applied to Penn, Boston College, Columbia (received 3 denial letters from their admissions office...), Notre Dame, Delaware, Franklin+Marshall, UVA, Duke, Vandy, and Davidson. That was a very stupid idea to apply to 12 colleges, will never do it again.

went with Gtown for many of the same reasons you like Maryland, though the Jesuits don't allow fraternities

I tried my best to just go with the flow of things and relax, usually works out ok in the end. :mr_t:
 

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Chairman Kaga said:
Nah my first choice was Yale, but it was kind of forced on me by parents. Got denied from therr.

Also applied to Penn, Boston College, Columbia (received 3 denial letters from their admissions office...), Notre Dame, Delaware, Franklin+Marshall, UVA, Duke, Vandy, and Davidson. That was a very stupid idea to apply to 12 colleges, will never do it again.

went with Gtown for many of the same reasons you like Maryland, though the Jesuits don't allow fraternities

I tried my best to just go with the flow of things and relax, usually works out ok in the end. :mr_t:

Which ones were you accepted to?


I was rejected from Cornell, Hamilton and NYU.
I got into Syracuse, Albany, Buffalo, Tulane, Rutgers
Waitlisted at the 4 schools and got into Binghamton, Maryland so far

The schools I got into were either too expensive or too much of a safety so im stuck waiting for my waitlists.

Waitlisted at the 4 schools I mentioned and got into Binghamton, Maryland.

I applied to 12 also lol
 

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Frame Gride 2 said:
Alright This year has been really fucked up for me. I got waitlisted at 4 schools. Lehigh, Boston University, University of Maryland College Park, and Suny Binghamton. Ive narrowed it down to Binghamton and Maryland due to the costs.
Binghamton is an academic school in the middle of nowhere. However, I would get a car/ study abroad if I went there due to instate costs (13k). Maryland is the total package.. fraternities, DC, Baltimore, Sports, tons of school spirit. However the cost there is almost double binghamton and there goes all the extra stuff. I would be a poor college student at Maryland but its considered a better school than binghamton.

Where should I go?

I would go with Binghamton because you would be able to have access to a car. That makes college life a hell of a lot easier. You wouldn't have to worry about transportation to and from work, and anywhere else. I don't think it matters. But if faternities and school spirit matter to you, you might feel that a car isn't worth that trade off. Either way, there will always be parties and college life at either school. It just comes down to what you are willing to trade.
 

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MistressDragon said:
I would go with Binghamton because you would be able to have access to a car. That makes college life a hell of a lot easier. You wouldn't have to worry about transportation to and from work, and anywhere else. I don't think it matters. But if faternities and school spirit matter to you, you might feel that a car isn't worth that trade off. Either way, there will always be parties and college life at either school. It just comes down to what you are willing to trade.

A car isnt as helpful in Binghamton as it would be in maryland. Off Campus, there isnt much to do at all in Bing. I would most likely just hang out with friends on campus heh. The car would be useful in Maryland, but I cant have everything.
 

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Frame Gride 2 said:
Where should I go?

HAMBURGER UNIVERSITY!

---There Dick Buttkiss will whip you into shape, you'll room mate with a fat kid who shocks himself to stop eating, and you can fuck the head R.N. working on the campus as she will be drawn to your magnetism. There they separate the bull from the bullshit.

MERCENARY X99
 

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MistressDragon said:
I would go with Binghamton because you would be able to have access to a car. That makes college life a hell of a lot easier. You wouldn't have to worry about transportation to and from work, and anywhere else. I don't think it matters. But if faternities and school spirit matter to you, you might feel that a car isn't worth that trade off. Either way, there will always be parties and college life at either school. It just comes down to what you are willing to trade.

Your first year on campus, you don't even need a car - you pay out the ass to
watch your car sit there, and you don't want to move it - because the off campus
kids will take your parking spot, which is hard as hell to get anyway - and you
never drive anywhere.

Until you get an apartment and you're a junior, you don't need anything with
wheels on it except a fucking bike.

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No question, Maryland. It's an excellent school and it's in near the cultural center of the country. Its an hour or less away from Baltimore and a metro ride away from the district. Not to mention that its an awesome school, both academically and party wise, all around.
 

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Alright This year has been really fucked up for me. I got waitlisted at 4 schools. Lehigh, Boston University, University of Maryland College Park, and Suny Binghamton. Ive narrowed it down to Binghamton and Maryland due to the costs.

I got into Syracuse, Albany, Buffalo, Tulane, Rutgers
Waitlisted at the 4 schools and got into Binghamton, Maryland so far

That's hardly "fucked up".

Bobak's Philosophy of Undergraduate School Choice: (I've told a lot of HSers this theory -either when I've spoken to groups about USC or looking ahead to law school) Pick a school where you can do well at. Academic reputation will only go so far if you hate your time there and your grades suffer as a result. As long as the school isn't completely out there (none of yours appear to fall into that category), you can be flexible with where you feel comfortable. You will get college loans, you will pay them back, if you're going to grad school (in anything), think of undergrad as High School II -so pick one that you'll enjoy for 3-5 years.

I think you're doing this all wrong if you're factoring in cost too much. you can get all sorts of extra money if you're smart about it.

Still, here are a few of my impressions:

Accepts

TULANE??? Dude... GO!!! You can pay it all back later, have fun now!
Academic powerhouse? check
School spirit? check
Party in NEW ORLEANS for four years? muthaf---ing check.
Best of your accepted options, tie with (and maybe a little below) Boston U.

Albany: forget it, who cares, never heard of it
Buffalo: Uh, no. Why not just go to Minnesota. Its a little colder, less snowy and more academically prestigious (and we have a football team that wins games)
Rutgers: Solid school, but sounds like you'll be paying out of state.
Syracuse: Decent academic rep, tons of school spirit. On campus dome. Could be a lot of fun.


Waitlists

Boston U:
If you don't like the south (i.e. Tulane), go here. Boston is a college paradise. You won't need a car. I have a number of classmates that went to BU and they all loved it. Its a very different kind of spirit than Tulane. You will get the opportunities you want out of this school.

Lehigh:
I've heard this is a prestigious school. Its has a reputation of being good, honestly I've never met anyone from there -but it should be strongly considered/visited to see if it would be right for you.

Maryland:
College Park sounds fun -its all the "big school" stuff you'd need: Spirit, Academics, Facilities, etc. I know a guy who just graduated from there, and he loved being a Terrapin.

Binghamton
Eh, if being an academic hermit appeals to you. I personally need a little more exciting campus lifestyle, so I'd go with BU/Tulane, Marlyand in that order over this one. I know one guy who went there, he seemed to like it. I dunno, liberal arts colleges in the middle of nowhere just don't appeal to me -but as I said, you pick what you enjoy ;)


How I'd rank your list:
(1) Boston U
(2) Tulane
(3) Maryland
 

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The problem with my situation is that my parents are middle class. We make a ton of money but not enough to pay 40k a year for school. Not to mention my dad does not want to take out loans, my sister is going to college in 2 years and I want to go to law school. My dad is unwilling to pay alot of money for college. He has already ruled out BU and Tulane because they cost alot of money, which he isnt willing to pay for. He wont send me to syracuse or Rutgers because I would be paying 40k a year or out of state fees respectively and he doesnt think it is worth it. He has basically limited my choices between Binghamton and Maryland because of cost and value for your money. Im even fighting him on Maryland because my dad is one of the cheapest people this world has ever seen.
I really dont want to go Binghamton and it seems like they arent giving me much of a choice. What would you do Bobak?
 

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Frame Gride 2 said:
The problem with my situation is that my parents are middle class. We make a ton of money but not enough to pay 40k a year for school. Not to mention my dad does not want to take out loans, my sister is going to college in 2 years and I want to go to law school. My dad is unwilling to pay alot of money for college. He has already ruled out BU and Tulane because they cost alot of money, which he isnt willing to pay for. He wont send me to syracuse or Rutgers because I would be paying 40k a year or out of state fees respectively and he doesnt think it is worth it. He has basically limited my choices between Binghamton and Maryland because of cost and value for your money. Im even fighting him on Maryland because my dad is one of the cheapest people this world has ever seen.
I really dont want to go Binghamton and it seems like they arent giving me much of a choice. What would you do Bobak?

Okay, I admit I'm a little clueless on one thing: I didn't realize 'Cuse was private. Also, is Maryland giving you reciprocity or something that its not out of state? Your location is NY so I'm a little confused -I only started to fathom reciprocity agreements when I moved out here to MN (we have agreements with Wisconsin and the Dakotas). CA has no such agreements with neighboring states.

However, you said the magic words for loan repayment: Law School ;)
(I would've also accepted "Medical School" or "MBA")

Sounds like your parents fall into that frustrating category of "too rich for substantial need-based aid, not quite enough to foot the bill to a private school". I assume you've already heard from all the schools you're in at regarding financial aid (and they probably weren't all that hot).

Rethinking things a little bit (considing what you just mentioned), you have one definite plus argument in that you're, theoretically, going to be a lawyer and will be able to pay back some of these loans -however (and this is a big however), you may want to conserve that argument for when you get into law school (because, let me tell you, you're going to be wanting to go wherever you get in -money no object).

In the short term you probably have made the best choice considering the circumstances. College can be fun almost wherever you go.

Again, I know two cool guys who went to Binghampton and enjoyed it. Both go to my law school and both said its a little quiet there but nothing that keeps you from having a good time. Actually, the two of them are very different people -which is a good sign since that means you can probably enjoy it regardless.

Maryland will be the big school environment. Its a little easier to get lost in the shuffle, but there's a lot more to do.

While Maryland is a "better" acadamic school, they're close enough academically that if you do well at Binghampton you'll be just as competitive as a Maryland grad (remember, the key to getting into law school is getting a good GPA and getting a good LSAT score, all else is secondary). Also, study abroads can be the most enriching months of your life. If Binghampton makes it easy and relatively cheap, that may make up for anything you find annoying with the school. Think of it this way, you spend a year or two in Binghampton, think to yourself "not bad, but I'd like more excitement" -so you then spend the next semester to two years in London and Berlin (I've known people who did two to three back-to-back study abroads because they were smart about the applications). I think you have the right mentality with the whole study abroad aspect.

Since they're both your waitlists, I think they're the both worth going to if you get off the list.

Remember: go where you feel comfortable. When thinking about what makes you comfortable, remember to look for the things you enjoy in your free time and whether they're available around the schools you're looking at.

If you haven't visited these schools in person you should strongly consider it. I remember visiting UC San Diego and then doing and about-face on wanting to go there. Same with UCLA. When I was entering undergrad I got into and ranked my choices (1) UCSD (2) UCLA (3) USC. Then after visiting all three I went to USC.

[EDIT: Remember: If you pick a school and end up hating it, you can always transfer.]
 

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Okay, I admit I'm a little clueless on one thing: I didn't realize 'Cuse was private. Also, is Maryland giving you reciprocity or something that its not out of state? Your location is NY so I'm a little confused -I only started to fathom reciprocity agreements when I moved out here to MN (we have agreements with Wisconsin and the Dakotas). CA has no such agreements with neighboring states.

However, you said the magic words for loan repayment: Law School ;)
(I would've also accepted "Medical School" or "MBA")

Sounds like your parents fall into that frustrating category of "too rich for substantial need-based aid, not quite enough to foot the bill to a private school". I assume you've already heard from all the schools you're in at regarding financial aid (and they probably weren't all that hot).

Rethinking things a little bit (considing what you just mentioned), you have one definite plus argument in that you're, theoretically, going to be a lawyer and will be able to pay back some of these loans -however (and this is a big however), you may want to conserve that argument for when you get into law school (because, let me tell you, you're going to be wanting to go wherever you get in -money no object).

In the short term you probably have made the best choice considering the circumstances. College can be fun almost wherever you go.

Again, I know two cool guys who went to Binghampton and enjoyed it. Both go to my law school and both said its a little quiet there but nothing that keeps you from having a good time. Actually, the two of them are very different people -which is a good sign since that means you can probably enjoy it regardless.

Maryland will be the big school environment. Its a little easier to get lost in the shuffle, but there's a lot more to do.

While Maryland is a "better" acadamic school, they're close enough academically that if you do well at Binghampton you'll be just as competitive as a Maryland grad (remember, the key to getting into law school is getting a good GPA and getting a good LSAT score, all else is secondary). Also, study abroads can be the most enriching months of your life. If Binghampton makes it easy and relatively cheap, that may make up for anything you find annoying with the school. Think of it this way, you spend a year or two in Binghampton, think to yourself "not bad, but I'd like more excitement" -so you then spend the next semester to two years in London and Berlin (I've known people who did two to three back-to-back study abroads because they were smart about the applications). I think you have the right mentality with the whole study abroad aspect.

Since they're both your waitlists, I think they're the both worth going to if you get off the list.

Remember: go where you feel comfortable. When thinking about what makes you comfortable, remember to look for the things you enjoy in your free time and whether they're available around the schools you're looking at.

If you haven't visited these schools in person you should strongly consider it. I remember visiting UC San Diego and then doing and about-face on wanting to go there. Same with UCLA. When I was entering undergrad I got into and ranked my choices (1) UCSD (2) UCLA (3) USC. Then after visiting all three I went to USC.

[EDIT: Remember: If you pick a school and end up hating it, you can always transfer.]

Ok First off. I have already gotten off the Waitlists at Maryland and Binghamton I have received calls from the director of admissions from both schools extending me admission. See I had a crappy SAT Score but I had a 3.8 GPA with 8 AP classes and it was the hard work that paid off and got me off the waitlists.

Another thing, I do not have reciprocity at Maryland. In order to receive that I would need to have atleast someone living there and/or a relative or friend and I have neither. I would be attending Maryland without knowing anyone there as I have no friends going there either. I'd be the Lone Ranger LOL!

Going to Binghamton would give me extra amenities. My parents would allow me to get a car my 2nd year, since freshmen arent allowed the first and they also agreed to a summer or a year in study abroad if I take that over Maryland.

We fit into the category as your stated. We make enough, but were not eligible for aid or scholarships and my crappy SAT score wasnt enough to give me merit at these schools. Its a very tough situation.

I think I would be happier at Maryland but I would "fit in" more at Binghamton and they each have pros and cons which make them comparable to one another which is why Im having such a hard time deciding.

I know I could just as easily transfer, however, I am very big on environment and atmosphere.. if Im not happy and I become depressed my grades do drop accordingly. Not being happy does effect my grades and I really dont want to make the wrong decision.

Another thing is spirit, it seems like people at Binghamton are all Pre- something and none of them want to be there due to various reasons. There is a lack of school spirit and a lack of social activities which can lead to various social problems, which I dont think I will find at Binghamton.

Lastly, I have visited both schools, Bobak. When I was waitlisted in APRIL, Me and my father visited both schools to try and get me off the lists. We met with regional directors from our area. It helped us greatly and got me off the lists because both schools obviously liked me.

Maryland's campus is hands down better than binghamton. Twice the size, more ammenities, fraternity row, DC, Baltimore, huge lawns, very traditional/scenic/ beautiful. The town of college park sucks ass but everything else makes up for it.

Binghamton is basically in the middle of nowhere. The campus is very nice in a homey type of way and it seems very peaceful and serene. There isnt much to do in the surrounding areas. The doorm rooms were nicer than Marylands but theres alot of seperation and segregation due to which community you reside in.. ie NEWING is for sorority sluts and fraternity frat guys. The campus did not have many ammenities, no fraternity row, not much to do outside of the union, long walks to get to classes especially in the winter, it seemed very lacking in extras.. Although Ive heard the "Nature Reserve" is the place to be to get laid lol.. especially on late weekend spring nights ROFL. But it seems like they are building it up.. a new events center opened this year and a new housing community called "mountainview" is opening this fall for freshmen.
 

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Sounds like you really like Maryland. It also sounds like you want the Greek system to be a part of your college experience.

Another way to look at the schools again is by talking to anyone you know who's either gone to those schools, or is going there right now. If you don't know someone personally, you can always call their respective admissions offices and ask them to put you in contact with a current student. Granted, those students will be a little gung-ho, but they're usually able to tell you what they see as not as good with the school vs. the positives.

Again, since you're off the waitlists and choosing between the two, you're not in an uneviable position. I would keep trying to get as much information as you can until your gut tells you what to do.
 

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Tulane is a pretty nice school - I've got a buddy going there. There's tons of stuff to do in New Orleans, and the night life is second to none.

Maryland is a great school too, and I'd strongly consider them as well.

Any idea what you plan to major in? That might help us give you some better advice.
 

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I plan on being a political science major :)

oh, ok - well, you're on your own on that one :). I'm mostly a science geek - maybe Bobak can tell you which school is better in poly sci.
 

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Ole Miss has an amazing law and poli sci. dept if you like southern schools,
I was majoring in it before my parents decided UTK would be better and
transfered me out of Ole Miss. :mad:

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