Jamma hard drive games

Xavier

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how hard is it to replace these hard drives , will just any old harddrives do ?
 

ttooddddyy

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I dont think so, the drives may have to be formatted using the original motherboard hardware. With the mame hard drive dumps for these games they use .chd files which are used as virtual hard drives requiring winrar (I think, or similar programs to open)
Its not like programming an eprom from the mame .bin files from a rom dump. Im no expert on this sort of stuff but guess that these Atari and other games, Primal Rage ect require a working mobo to format the hdd to start with, then Im in the dark :spock: . Not really sure if Ive got close to answering the question.
There will be others around here with a better idea.
 

ttooddddyy

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There was a thread on this a few weeks ago, Im trying to find it, I dont think a PC hdd will work ???
 

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Most games are normal IDE hard drives. The MAME CHDman tool can actually create a brand new arcade drive by using a blank HD.

Depending on the game it will work with any IDE drive, the known exceptions are Killer Instinct(requires a certain model laptop HD...however if you install boot ROM 1.5d you can use any drive), and Killer Instinct 2(same as KI1 except no known workaround). There may be more, but I don't know about them.

I myself have restored a dead Area51/Maximum Force duo game by buying a new HD, connecting it to my PC, and using CHDman to write the data from area51mf.chd to the new hard drive. The game now works great.

I've heard from others that most of the later Midway 3d games(Blitz, Rush, etc) will work with any drive. I've dumped my Blitz99 and Gauntlet:Dark Legacy drives, but haven't made a copy of those.
 

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Reznor007 said:
Most games are normal IDE hard drives. The MAME CHDman tool can actually create a brand new arcade drive by using a blank HD.

Depending on the game it will work with any IDE drive, the known exceptions are Killer Instinct(requires a certain model laptop HD...however if you install boot ROM 1.5d you can use any drive), and Killer Instinct 2(same as KI1 except no known workaround). There may be more, but I don't know about them.

I myself have restored a dead Area51/Maximum Force duo game by buying a new HD, connecting it to my PC, and using CHDman to write the data from area51mf.chd to the new hard drive. The game now works great.

I've heard from others that most of the later Midway 3d games(Blitz, Rush, etc) will work with any drive. I've dumped my Blitz99 and Gauntlet:Dark Legacy drives, but haven't made a copy of those.


One time I saw a web site that discribed how to copy a KI1 and 2 hd, but you had to have the original hd and that mame dumps would not work. Not sure the web site though.
 

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I've seen that site, it's been around for a while. The MAME dumps will work, you just need the 1.5d boot ROM for the game to boot any drive other than the certain Seagate model that it shipped with.
 

Xavier

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the reason why im asking is because i have to wayne gretsky boards but the hard drive seems bad
 

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Making a new HD for Wayne Gretzky should work fine, as it's the exact same PCB as Blitz. Just use the image from MAME, and the CHDman tool included with MAME.

Connect a new HD(unpartitioned/unformatted) to your PC and boot it up. You must be using Win2000 or WinXP for this to work though. Go to the device manager and find the logical drive number for the new HD...usually logicaldrive 0 is your PC's boot drive.

Go to the command line and enter this:
chdman.exe -extract wg3dh.chd .\\physicaldriveX (where X is the logical drive number of the new HD).

Once it is done extracting, turn off your PC, and connect the HD to your PCB and try it out.
 

Xavier

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yeah im tring to find the chd now
then i guess a hard drive

oh yeah and nfl blitz 99 to i think i have that game as well
there different boards though pretty similiar
 

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They use a slightly different CPU(MIPS R4700 on WG, R5000 on Blitz), but overall they are the same board(and both are identified as Seattle hardware on the PCB).

The should share the same IDE controller though, and that's the important part.
 

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I have a Wayne Gretzky HD and Mobo, if youd like it. Everything works great, I just dont use it because it needs a 5+ ground and my NEO doesnt have one. Id like to sell the Board and HD together though, but I will for say... 40$ obo. Im not a price pro. but let me know.
 
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