John Kerry Gas Price Calculator (courtesy of dubya)

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it's kind of laughable

gas prices here have jumped from 1.60 per gallon on premium to $2.20

under george w. bush that is...
 
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I think that was probably tied to that commercial they were running a month ago.

Yeah, with gas prices going through the roof its hard to point finger and not look foolish "Yeah, you gas prices have gone through the roof since we invaded Iraq to try and find WMD... but with Kerry, your gas prices would go higher -if he'd invaded Iraq... If he'd believed there were WMDs there... Is this thing on? No further comments."

I think they're going to keep this argument on the DL for a while.
 
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SamuraiShodownSensei said:
http://www.georgewbush.com/Calculator/ :spock:

Source?... please

What next from GB? "Kerry slices kittens while shooting school children in the face with dual 9-mms"
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I think I ran across the source before on msn, but can'tr find it now. Generally, this is a response to Democrats criticizing the high gas prices while Bush essentially does nothing (contrary to a 2000 campaign promise to pressure oil producing countries to push down gas prices)

Kerry is not, or in recent history backing such a measure, and I'm not clear he was ever really championig such a measure which is what the administration wants ot make it look like.

The gas blame is going inc ircles, and Kerry's only actual advantage in this area is that he's not the incumbent, who's more easily blamable for the immediate reality of it. Unless Kerry backs opening the oil reserves up (which so far only a few Democrats are) he's only gonna be better in not totally pissing off OPEC.
 
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It's over 2 dollars (for regular) in North VA, over 2 dollars in Cape May. The lowest I've seen lately is 1.83, and that's some no name gas station on the back roads of NJ.
 
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The difference is that Kerry would actively pursue higher taxation of gasoline, while the current prices reflect market conditions. Take a look at Kerry's record on tax increases to see what he'll do if/when he takes office.
 
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galfordo said:
The difference is that Kerry would actively pursue higher taxation of gasoline, while the current prices reflect market conditions. Take a look at Kerry's record on tax increases to see what he'll do if/when he takes office.
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The market conditions are partly due to your favorite pres's fubar over in the middle east.

Your boy Bush is the one who went to war for an oil company. :annoyed:
 
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What's really funny about Kerry is how he said George W. Bush would raise gas prices so much that he'd need to car pool to work. Umm, doesn't Bush live where he works, you know the White House?
 
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What's really funny about Kerry is how he said George W. Bush would raise gas prices so much that he'd need to car pool to work. Umm, doesn't Bush live where he works, you know the White House?
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I really am not a Kerry supporter. I'm with the "anyone but bush 2004 campaign".
 
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SamuraiShodownSensei said:
The market conditions are partly due to your favorite pres's fubar over in the middle east.

Your boy Bush is the one who went to war for an oil company. :annoyed:
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If Bush wanted more oil, all he had to do was lift the embargos on Iraq - war would be totally unnecessary. Or, he could've gotten in bed with Saddam like some of our "allies". There are much easier ways to get oil.
 
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galfordo said:
If Bush wanted more oil, all he had to do was lift the embargos on Iraq - war would be totally unnecessary. Or, he could've gotten in bed with Saddam like some of our "allies". There are much easier ways to get oil.
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A) no control voer oil fields.

B) Lifting the embargoes would have handed it to French companies, something we've managed to avoid.
 
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galfordo said:
If Bush wanted more oil, all he had to do was lift the embargos on Iraq - war would be totally unnecessary. Or, he could've gotten in bed with Saddam like some of our "allies". There are much easier ways to get oil.
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yeah thats true, if Bush needs more oil all he has to do is ask one of his many saudi buddies.
 
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So Bush spends away our future into his tax cuts, and all of a sudden Kerry's wanting to appeal the wasteful, irresponsible fiscal policy becomes 'oh no, he's going to increase taxes!'

If there's something one must be suspicious of, it's a government that would rather run on empty than tax to give this nation its basic amenities. All the bets are off when Bush decided to waste the nation by pushing for permanent tax cuts than allow the triggers to halt the runaway deficit. The surplus is gone, and so should the fekking tax cuts.
 
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Cheney isn't with the company anymore. kthxbai urself.
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Kickbacks, campaign contributions..... none of that make sense?

What scares me the most, is people like yourself who can't figure out/see (or just deny) what is going on in this country that is clear as day. And you are given the power to vote.

If there was a video of Bush where he admitted he went into Iraq for Halliburton and not for WMD, you probably still wouldn't believe it.

Ignorant people paving the path to America's future, outfuckingstanding.
 
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Did anyone mention that Kerry did support the $.50 increase ... IN THE mid 80"S !!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I believe this is the reason why there is NO reference at all on gw's site as to when or where Kerry did approve it.

Not saying Kerry isn't using the same sort of strategy for his campaign but this is indeed dis-information (and given that 95% of people won't bother looking into it thay'll never know).
 
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SamuraiShodownSensei said:
Kickbacks, campaign contributions..... none of that make sense?

What scares me the most, is people like yourself who can't figure out/see (or just deny) what is going on in this country that is clear as day. And you are given the power to vote.

If there was a video of Bush where he admitted he went into Iraq for Halliburton and not for WMD, you probably still wouldn't believe it.

Ignorant people paving the path to America's future, outfuckingstanding.
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this is why universal suffrage is widely seen as a very conservative move.
 
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thinking about getting a hybrid.
too bad the only things available is the civic and the prius.
and I think something else. I drive about 30 miles a day average for 6 days a week.
thank god my car is fuel efficient as it is.
 
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SamuraiShodownSensei said:
Kickbacks, campaign contributions..... none of that make sense?

What scares me the most, is people like yourself who can't figure out/see (or just deny) what is going on in this country that is clear as day. And you are given the power to vote.

If there was a video of Bush where he admitted he went into Iraq for Halliburton and not for WMD, you probably still wouldn't believe it.

Ignorant people paving the path to America's future, outfuckingstanding.
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And here comes the name-calling. I guess someone's not secure enough with their argument.

Kickbacks and questionable campaign contributions go on all the time, and on both sides of the aisle. Big deal.
 
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Howdoin said:
Did anyone mention that Kerry did support the $.50 increase ... IN THE mid 80"S !!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I believe this is the reason why there is NO reference at all on gw's site as to when or where Kerry did approve it.
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Kerry has been a tax & spend liberal for the past thirty years. If there's an opportunity to raise taxes, rest assured he'll be there to see it through. Fifty extra cents a gallon is the least of the middle class' worries if he makes it to office.
 
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galfordo said:
Kerry has been a tax & spend liberal for the past thirty years. If there's an opportunity to raise taxes, rest assured he'll be there to see it through. Fifty extra cents a gallon is the least of the middle class' worries if he makes it to office.
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Yeah. The biggest worry for a long time to come is going to be how we're the shame of the international community over the shit that has gone on in Iraq.
 
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galfordo said:
And here comes the name-calling. I guess someone's not secure enough with their argument.

Kickbacks and questionable campaign contributions go on all the time, and on both sides of the aisle. Big deal.
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Yuh Ignorant.

"Waaah!" galfordo cries, "someone called me names. !"
Sure enough, galfordo's arguments are water tight, why, who would be so insolent as to question galfordo? :rolleyes:
 
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bokmeow said:
Yuh Ignorant.

"Waaah!" galfordo cries, "someone called me names. !"
Sure enough, galfordo's arguments are water tight, why, who would be so insolent as to question galfordo? :rolleyes:
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I didn't cry - and I didn't say anything about questioning me. I said that name-calling is good way to avoid providing a sound argument, and a strong indication of a lack of cogent thought.
 
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dmhawkmoon said:
Yeah. The biggest worry for a long time to come is going to be how we're the shame of the international community over the shit that has gone on in Iraq.
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What international community? Two countries that are pissed because they had inside deals with Saddam? What a pity.
 
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