galfordo said:and they wonder why they're treated like animals ....
Kid Aphex said:Completely uncalled for.
This just reminds me of another israeli/palestine conflict.
The bottom line is, the dogs in that part of the world will never be civilized; let's STOP sacrificing our soldiers lives for the fucking OIL---because it's all we're getting out of it. You can't change the mindset of these animals; any hope to do so is so futile.
El_Duque said:that's right if you act like an animal, we'll treat you like one. that's why we will be there until they are well disciplined and act civilized for once.

galfordo said:I'm still not convinced that this is primarily an oil battle, but I am having serious doubts about these peoples' ability to act in a civilized manner. The backwards, barbaric mentality seems so deeply entrenched that it makes you wonder if they are even capable of living in peace.
Kid Aphex said:They're not; its seriously obvious. ITS BEEN OBVIOUS. The entire arab world [this generation] is at a loss. Gas the adults and give the kids [next generation] PS2's and a taste of a modern lifestyle; watch civilized life bloom.
jethrek said:The IRaqi's being treated like animals are not the Iraqis beheading our people.
This is a direct retribution of what our soldiers did in Abu Ghraib. This is why soldiers do not get to make that kind of screw up int heir judgment.
Yes, the Iraqi's who did this deserve to die, but this is something that might have been avoided had our men not done what they did
It illustrates the downward spiral even more. Now our people will in anger be more predisposed toward abusing Iraqis, who will also be more predisposed toward killing Americans.
What a fucking mess.
galfordo said:I'm still not convinced that this is primarily an oil battle, but I am having serious doubts about these peoples' ability to act in a civilized manner. The backwards, barbaric mentality seems so deeply entrenched that it makes you wonder if they are even capable of living in peace.
Bobak said:Columbine
Iraqi Prisoner abuse
David Shepard...
it all goes on.
Only difference in overall population? Diversity and education.
jethrek said:It illustrates the downward spiral even more. Now our people will in anger be more predisposed toward abusing Iraqis, who will also be more predisposed toward killing Americans.
What a fucking mess.
jethrek said:This is a direct retribution of what our soldiers did in Abu Ghraib. This is why soldiers do not get to make that kind of screw up int heir judgment.
Bobak said:Exactly, you only have to read this thread to see how emotional and ignorant a HUMAN BEING can really be.
Irony, really
galfordo said:It's my opinion that anyone fucked up enough to chop of someone's head is just looking for an excuse to do something like this. If it wasn't the Abu Ghraib incident, they'd probably do it because an American movie exposed their kid to a girl's naked shin or something.
VanillaThunder said:I really, really, really don't want to start this argument.
I'll just say this, bobak, you're comparing apples and bicycles.
Standard Deviance, my friend, Standard Deviance.

Bobak said:Really?
Well VT, I know Iraqis, I know Afghanis, I know a lot of different Middle Easterns who've moved over here even in the last year.
So I don't feel any qualms in saying what I'm saying.
Diversity: You stop fearing the other. You see what other cultures are and the exposure helps innoculate some potential conflict
Education: You have opportunity (and hopefully jobs available).
This whole Iraq thing has turned into an All-Star-Jam of terrorists.
Of course, we all knew it was going to: It seems that everyone with even a hint of love for Al Queda nearby has congregated in Iraq to do one thing: Kill Americans.
It's awful, it's stupid, but its not as typical of the population as places like Fox News would lead you to believe. The average Iraqi just wishes we would go, they try to tolerate our presence, but they don't with to kill us. It's sort of like me and Bush![]()
galfordo said:It's my opinion that anyone fucked up enough to chop of someone's head is just looking for an excuse to do something like this. If it wasn't the Abu Ghraib incident, they'd probably do it because an American movie exposed their kid to a girl's naked shin or something.
VanillaThunder said:Fixed that up for ya.
Bobak said:It's awful, it's stupid, but its not as typical of the population as places like Fox News would lead you to believe. The average Iraqi just wishes we would go, they try to tolerate our presence, but they don't with to kill us.