which is more important,monitary value or the game its self

monitary value or the game its self

  • monitary value

    Votes: 13 14.6%
  • beautiful fun to play neo geo cart

    Votes: 76 85.4%

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chris1

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Voted..
Sorry no comment,I need to get my ass to bed..:p
 

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Since there's two branches to the Neo·Geo cartridge family tree, I'll give ya two answers. :D

If it's the NGH AES format you're talking about, it's the game's monetary value, all the way. When buying a home cartridge, the seller must describe every detail of the game's condition to the buyer. Nothing necessarily wrong with that; it's just the way things are.

If it's the MVS format you're talking about, then it's the game's playability, by a landslide. Considering many of these games are run by arcade operators for fun and profit, a beat up game that plays is a beat up game that pays. ;) Nothing necessarily wrong with that; it's just the way things are.

Seriously, only on the NGH AES format can a game like Legend Of Success Joe sell upwards of $150.00 (U.S.D.). :oh_no:
 
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Bollocks!

If that was so everyone would be MVS or ROMS

ORPHEUS said:
It's all about the game itself. no contest.
 

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you buy the home carts because they are limited productions, but even if you paid ,lets say $400 for a us metal slug3, it should still be for the game and not if its going to increase invalue.

see i collect baseball cards (vintage t206 ect.) but i dont buy them for there monitary value, but for the historical aspect of the card. i have a psa 7 t206 ty cobb i got for $986 usd. and its worth more now i know, but all i care for is that i will be able to pass on a century year old piece of history to my kids, not that when i give it to them or decide to sale it if i am going to get my purchase price back or turn a profit.


make sense?
 

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kernow said:
Bollocks!

If that was so everyone would be MVS or ROMS

The game come FIRST. collectibillty and value comes second (to me at least).
 

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kernow said:
Bollocks!

If that was so everyone would be MVS or ROMS

Kernow has a point here. Exclusivity was a major part of the neo fame. Back in the beginning of the 90's, most of the people I knew have never seen a neo geo but all of them knew it. Presented as the "Rolls Royce" of the gaming industry, it was as unaccesible as powerful. Even if now the neo has fallen in the underground world of of the gaming communauty, fans still have this exclusive flavour with neo carts.
 

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having a cart thats worth alot is cool and all. its nice to brag about the worth. but the game itself is more important to me seeing as how i know im too lazy to ever sell anything.
 

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Robert said:
Kernow has a point here. Exclusivity was a major part of the neo fame. Back in the beginning of the 90's, most of the people I knew have never seen a neo geo but all of them knew it. Presented as the "Rolls Royce" of the gaming industry, it was as unaccesible as powerful. Even if now the neo has fallen in the underground world of of the gaming communauty, fans still have this exclusive flavour with neo carts.

Sure there was cost exclusivity, but if the games sucked ass SNES games would just laugh at Neo gamers, instead they envied them because the games kicked ass.
 

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dolphinATX said:
you buy the home carts because they are limited productions, but even if you paid ,lets say $400 for a us metal slug3, it should still be for the game and not if its going to increase invalue.

Try finding someone who buys an ngh and doesn't get pissed or happy when it drops/grows in value.

I didn't want a $400 game, I wanted the $130 version so I bought the identical PLAYING mvs kit.

Please, lets not pretend to be _just_ a gamer when relating to NGH. A gamer wouldn't pay such fucking stupid prices for a start, he'd buy MVS,CD,or RZMO!
 

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Originally posted by kernow
Bollocks!

If that was so, everyone would play MVS or ROMs.

Yeah, hate to break it to you, but ROMs are how a lot of people are either introduced to, or continually play with, Neo·Geo titles. I'm not saying everyone does this, I'm not necessarily even saying most people do this, but I am saying a significant amount of people do.

Personally, I neither condone nor participate in this; I honestly don't have the technical skills to download, install, or run ROMs, especially on this dinosaur-of-a-computer I've got. ;)

And for those that do purchase and collect the pricier NGH AES, I commend you; you are truely hardcore: spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a game -- say, Metal Slug, for example -- that could be just as easily purchased for much less in another legitimate cartridge format.

Heck, I used to be a NGH AES collector myself, until I went the way of the MVS. I know the joys of owning a brand new, never played home cartridge. However, and this could just have been me, but part of the fun I had collecting that stuff was knowing that I was one of a select few to have this very special type of game. There was definitely an air of superiority there, which the MVS scene doesn't have quite as much.

Originally posted by dolphinATX
You buy the home carts because they are limited productions, but even if you paid, let's say, $400.00 for an English Metal Slug 3, it should still be for the game and not if it's going to increase in value.

See, I collect baseball cards (vintage t206 ect.) but I don't buy them for their monetary value; [rather], for the historical aspect of the card. I have a PSA 7 t206 Ty Cobb I got for $986.00 (U.S.D.) and it's worth more now, I know, but all I care for is that I will be able to pass on a century-year-old piece of history to my kids, not that when I give it to them or [if I] decide to sell it if I am going to get my purchase price back or turn a profit.

Make sense?

I see how that makes sense, but I also see how that doesn't make sense. Using your analogy, let's say you were considering the purchase of a Babe Ruth card for $1,000.00 (U.S.D.) that you knew would be worth only $1.99 (U.S.D.) after you purchased it, and there would be no way to ever recover your financial loss by either selling or trading this card. Would you still buy it? Probably not.

Same thing with the Neo·Geo and, for that matter, life in general. We're always weighing our options, trying to get the most for our money, and thinking ahead at least somewhat in terms of how better or worse off we'll be in the end. Again, nothing necessarily wrong with that; it's just the way things are.

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first off, theres no way a ruth could go for 1.99usd from a grand.
and like i said i wouldnt worry about it in the first place, because i do not purchase collectables thinking if i will be able to make my money back or turn a profit.
i collect aes and mvs. i collect them because its fun. not because they could make me a quick buck.

its intergrity that makes collecting great. not monitary value.
 

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SuperMegaUltra said:
And for those that do purchase and collect the pricier NGH AES, I commend you; you are truely hardcore: spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a game -- say, Metal Slug, for example -- that could be just as easily purchased for much less in another legitimate cartridge format.

Heck, I used to be a NGH AES collector myself, until I went the way of the MVS. I know the joys of owning a brand new, never played home cartridge.


The joy of a brand new never played home cartridge is fine, but is it different to the joy of any new game? if it is.. then its something other than the game you've bought into.

The air of superiority is generated by yourself, not the 'game', I guess you could say I feel the same owning a real new complete ms3 kit that an arcade operator could use , or would buy, for example, how much closer to ARCADE PERFECT would you like? :)

closer than ngh after all, no matter what people tell you , but meh this aint no NGH/MVS battle. The MVS zeus, its bastard son Jesus the neo, both were good people, and provided enjoyment to a large audience.

yeah ms3 kit, big woop, not rare, but I wanted the _game_
 

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lithy said:
Sure there was cost exclusivity, but if the games sucked ass SNES games would just laugh at Neo gamers, instead they envied them because the games kicked ass.

Your argument makes sense if you consider the first part of the neo life (when it was MUCH better than everything else). This isn't not true anymore. Ports are as good as the original version (if not better) and cost MUCH less. What's the point in neo cart now? Just to have the game before the ports are released, I don't think so. I don't critize anyone since I have bought 2 new neo cart over the past 8 months.
 

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Interesting question.

I collect homecarts and of course I play them, but why don't I just buy cheap mvs carts or why not sticking wih teh xbawks ? One thing is for sure, it's NOT about the monetary value. I don't mind spending money on my carts, but I'm not at all proud of it either. I never brag about them to anyone, none of my friends even know what they are worth.. Spending that much money on games makes me feel more like a nerd then like anything else...

So I guess it's all about the whole package for me, gameplaywise, historical wise, sentimental wise and arts wise.
 

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Originally posted by dolphinATX
First off, there's no way a Ruth could go for $1.99 (U.S.D.) from a grand.

Is it improbable? Yes, but I was just using it as an example. :p

Is it impossible? Not really, no. Say after selling you the Babe Ruth card for $1,000.00 (U.S.D.), I quickly began flooding the market with hundreds of thousands of indistinguishably similar counterfeit cards. What then? Your piece of history, while still the real deal, is worth next to nothing now. Again, if you knew all this beforehand, you'd still go through with the purchase? I think -- nay, I'd hope -- you'd reconsider.

Originally posted by dolphinATX
...and like I said, I wouldn't worry about it in the first place, because I do not purchase collectables thinking if I will be able to make my money back or turn a profit. I collect NGH AES and MVS. I collect them because it's fun, not because they could make me a quick buck.

It's intergrity that makes collecting great, not monetary value.

No, integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody else is around. ;) As to your reiterated stance, I'm speechless, man. That kind of mentality is very brazen, maybe even a little foolhardy. Regardless, though, I've got to give you credit for standing by your principles so staunchly. :buttrock: You go, girl. :cool:
 
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leGionellz said:
Interesting question.

I collect homecarts and of course I play them, but why don't I just buy cheap mvs carts or why not sticking wih teh xbawks ? One thing is for sure, it's NOT about the monetary value. I don't mind spending money on my carts, but I'm not at all proud of it either. I never brag about them to anyone, none of my friends even know what they are worth.. Spending that much money on games makes me feel more like a nerd then like anything else...

So I guess it's all about the whole package for me, gameplaywise, historical wise, sentimental wise and arts wise.

I agree with this point of view. It express well my feelings toward neo carts.
 

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Interesting thread.

kernow said:
Try finding someone who buys an ngh and doesn't get pissed or happy when it drops/grows in value.

I really don't give a rat's ass if my carts appreciate / depreciate in value because I never plan on selling any of them.

kernow said:
Please, lets not pretend to be _just_ a gamer when relating to NGH. A gamer wouldn't pay such fucking stupid prices for a start, he'd buy MVS,CD,or RZMO!

Don't want a NGCD: don't like loading times.

Don't want MVS: superguns plus MVS slots take up too much room and are too delicate

Don't want teh r0mz: don't like the bugs, edge enhancement etc.

Don't want ports: missing animation, chopped sound etc.

I'm quite happy with my Neo Geo home system thank you very much.
 

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Monetary Value. Mon·e·tary. :mad:

And yeah, that would be me. :eek: Before I'm given teh ban, though, know that I distinguished between NGH AES and MVS in that poll. If it's NGH AES, I'm in it for the big bucks, but if it's MVS we're talkin' about, it's all about teh playability.

Now, you may proceed in tarring and feathering me. :help:
 

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kernow said:
Bollocks!

If that was so everyone would be MVS or ROMS

this is a very valid point, but i guess alot of people want it to look nice at the same time as i enjoy the game...

I paid some high prices for some games, i know for a fact i won't get the same money back on it, but i still bought it... no i can't explain why... but there is just something about the AES that is very attractive....

I want to buy all the KOF games from the neo store also but i know those game will not go up in value at all...but i still want it
 
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