Pics of the Atomiswave guts, ideas for consolizing it.

OK, I'm currently discussing the details with supergoose79 to see if I finally send my AW to him to have it consolized.

This is the complete board:



This is it after removing the 3 optional carts:



This is without the red plastic casing:



And finally this is removing the metal cover:



Well, I'm no expert on this, but it looks like there's quite room behind the Atomiswave logo, as there's only that small pcb with its wires. Also to the left of the cart slot. It should be easy to wire two RCA jacks to the stereo plug (on the right of the white plastic pin) and connect them to the right of the case. I guess that the video output and even the controller ports could be installed there. This would leave only the power plug left.

This is more or less how I would like it to be. This info is for supergoose, but I prefer to discuss it here openly (Falk, if you don't we can just use PM or e-mail, but I think the PM system sucks)

-Controls:

2 subd-15 ports, with the following pin-out:

1 Common (GND)
2 Button 5
3 Coin
4 Button 4
5 Button 2
6 Right
7 Down
8 +5v (optional, I don't really need it)
9 Button 4 (optional)
10 NC
11 Start
12 Button 3
13 Button 1
14 Left
15 Up

I'm not sure if it would be better to have a coin button in the board itself, as the board doesn't have freeplay... And then maybe I'd put button 5 on pin 3 instead... I'll have to check how are my modded controllers actually wired about that.

-Video

A connector where a scart cable should be attached. I would really want to have +5V wired to pin 16 (can't remember the number, was it 8 instead?) through a 100 ohm resistor, as appearently some TVs (not mine) do not switch to RGB without it. Remember this is what happened to Fogueman with the VHSgun. That's why I'm afraid I won't be able to use that scart cable, because it looks like to me scart pin 16 is not connected anywhere in the subd-9 port in the other end.
However, I do have another scart cable which I use in my other supergun, that follows the same pin-out as the Neo Geo (I could use it with my Neo Geo CD), found here http://webgb.hp.infoseek.co.jp/gtech/connect.html, and I just checked and it actually has pin 6 connected to scart 16:

1:Red
2:Video
3:Audio
4:Blue
5:-NC-
6:+5V
7:Gnd
8:Green

I think is called DIN8p. So if you could mount a female connector like that it for video it would be nice.

-Sound:

As I said 2 female RCA jacks for stereo sound from that special connector. I don't really think I would need the mono sound from the JAMMA harness already having that. If possible, I would like to have that stereo sound wired to the scart connection as well.

-Power:

If possible I would prefer not to use a PC psu, so having a plug to be used with a jameco sc200 would be nice. I guess you could include an adaptor for using a PC psu anyway just in case. It's a pity you don't have a spare sc200, I guess I would order one, 20$ is pretty cheap and I shouldn't worry for customs, I hope shipping isn't that bad.

-Other:

The 2 dip switches are a pain to access, I need to use a screwdriver, I can't use my fingers (unless I had a long nail ), so having some bigger switches more accessible somewhere else would be nice, if that's possible.

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This is all I can think about this right now. Thanks for all

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Nice pics

I was wondering what the insides looked like, but am not willing to take mine apart,lol.....I hope you and supergoose can work something out, as I would like to see what someone can do with the casing etc....

good luck with that

Fixed

Thanks

what's with the loose wires? and are they held down with tape? (what it looks like)



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"The 2 dip switches are a pain to access"

yeah they are, and I use a car key or toothpick or something....I am sure he could wire up a couple switches that are easier to get to.....like I did with dip #5 on my pgm.

Yeah, I also thought WTF? when I saw those wires... They are soldered, but some have some tape on them, exactly the same type of tape that covered the modem 9-pin port in the front (which I had to remove). I was about to ask you if your board was like this, but if you don't want to open it, then don't worry.

Yes, I also have a bigger switch on DIP 8 of my MVS for pause.

I'm definately interested to see what you guys are able to come up with, since consolizing the Atomiswave would be the most favorable option to myself, and what I'd want to do with. I know this is easier said than done, but once someone gets a general idea of what to do, and tests it out I'll be in the running for a cosolization for myself. I just want to throw the thanks out to all of you pioneers right now for doing the trial and error way to success.

sorry...I will mess around with just about everything else I own besides my AW and one other pcb......


who knows.....maybe those wires help yours run vga on cart monitors





soon, people will know all about these things and this stuff will be as common knowledge as superguns etc...

is possible to add 4 ps2 pad

NEOFREAK9189 said:

is possible to add 4 ps2 pad

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is possible to come up with a real question?

do you want to connect 4 joypads for ggi's 4 player mode or are you talking about 2 psx/ps2 style joyports FOR being able to hook up 2 pads?
it's quite obvious that 4 of those joyports would never fit in there. most likely not even 2 of them ...

anyway ...
i got some ideas, but i think, i might have to hold it in my own hands first. it's somewhat hard to tell which connectors i could mount and where to mount 'em.

good thing is that hooking up the stereo stuff doesn't seem to be a problem at all.

just wondering.....are you going to make a full size external jamma powersupply?

it just seems like a lot of stuff to put into that little amount of space...like 4 controller ports?

It might be easier to try and make some sort of enclosure for the base that left the went over the jamma edge, but left the other ports and top half or more of the AW showing. Maybe a good 3 inches below for the PS and 4 ports.....w/ extra switches and everything...

If you had an external PS....maybe only an inch tall base enclosure....

I can't wait to see what you can do with this things....and hope that you will leave the empty spaces under the little pop off covers unused so he can get all of the expansions that come eventually.


something like this? but prettier? lol


Just a thought.....


wondering what you're thinking about this project....as I have my external psu almost finished.....and am planning something along these lines.......but how will the 4 players work? I am not really sure......will there be some cable like the pgm? will you need 2 AW's and 2 games and 2 cabs?

this seems like it means a lot towards the final design, as I am sure he will want it compatible with future items....like 4 players,etc...

i'll mount 2 db15 connectors only and i don't want to make the system bigger.
i really can't tell you much more atm, cause i'm not sure, if everything will work out as planned.
we'll see ...

NGT is the master of MS paint.

Definately, I only want 2 player ports, basically because there's nowhere to wire the other 2 ports right now. Most likely, the 4 player games will have the two aditional player controls wired in a special cart for the I/0 bay on top of the JAMMA harness. If I ever come across one of that games and I want to play more than 2 players I'll figure out how to use it myself.

I agree with supergoose, I do not want to make the system any bigger. Everything should be mounted in the original plastic red casing. I don't feel like using an external JAMMA power supply, the Jameco one would suit my needs much better, or I would just use a PC AT one. I assume the PSU will have to be external anyway.

I think there should be enough room under the AW logo for the video and audio, and the 2 controller ports could go to the left of the game. Of course this is just my appreciation and I have no experience whatosever.

Neofreak1989, si hablas español hazme la pregunta en este idioma, nos entenderemos mejor. Hacer conectores para meter directamente mandos de Playstation sería muy difícil, no sale a cuenta. Sería más fácil modificar los mandos de Playsation para que funcionen en los puertos que yo quiero, que son como los de una Neo Geo. Si realmente quieres jugar al Isuka con 4 mandos de PS2, simplemente cómprate una PS2, un adaptador de 6 jugadores y el port del juego cuando salga.

norton9478 said:

NGT is the master of MS paint.

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you use what you've got...and try and make the best of it

Nice Pix of the AW

Good luck

for Amano Jacu


hey mi pregunta es es posible modificar un mando de ps2 o de super nintendo

que funcinen Atomiswave pienso comprar el Atomiswave
lo unico que necesito modificar del systema ponerle es 4 o 2 controller ports stereo out powersupply
pues mi television tiene VGA in

bueno yo sabia que los juegos Atomiswave salen para ps2 pero prefiero el Atomiswave o que saquen para el dreamcast


for Amano Jacu

hey my question is is possible to modify a pad of ps2 or of super nintendo

that work for Atomiswave think to buy the Atomiswave i that need to modify of the system to put him is 4 or 2 controller ports stereo out
powersupply my television has VGA in

Sí, es posible modificar algunos mandos de supernintendo o playstation para que funcionen en casi cualquier placa JAMMA.

my tv has vga in also, but be aware that the AW's vga signal might not be strong enough to show up on your tv....or a handfull of monitors

I have tried my rca mm32110 tv and 4 cart monitors and only one of the monitors shows anything....and the screen flips upwards due to week signals..


currently working on a solution though...

amano jacu

amano jacu...as much as i dont like you and you piss me off sometimes as i do to you as well...I must apoligize as you have answered many of my questions w/ this thread alone...Thanks a lot! Hopefully youll post some pics of the system when its finished because i want one of these as well...

Such a nice looking system.....

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dbarrett0928 said:

amano jacu...as much as i dont like you and you piss me off sometimes as i do to you as well...I must apoligize as you have answered many of my questions w/ this thread alone...Thanks a lot! Hopefully youll post some pics of the system when its finished because i want one of these as well...

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Nah, don't worry, it's nothing personal, I'm glad to help n00bs as I was one myself like everybody else... It's just that I don't like repeating myself over and over, nor reply to questions that are available somewhere else and could be found very easily with few effort.

Bump, since supergoose has got my AW and should start working / making pics / projects soon.

I had plans and design of consolizing my Naomi... I still plan to get to it eventually...

Not an idea along the lines of what you all have been thinking, but here is one for you. Seems to me the AW has a really nice case that is closed and contained other than the part of the board for the Jamma connection. So why not just get an electronic project box, cut a slot in it for the jamma connector, mount the jamma connector inside the box. Then mount the video, audio controller ports out as well as a port to an external power supply (assuming that there is an external power supply that is known to work with the AW along the lines of the SC200). Then all you have a contained box that has all the ports and what not inside of it and you just plug it into the Jamma slot like you would a cart and you don't have to modify the original board system at all... I would hate to have to modify an AW if I had one just because they are so nice looking to start with, though the pink is not the best looking piece for the living room... :P Seems like that would be pretty sweet to me, maybe not what you guys are looking for though. Another upside to it is that if there was a good method to building these a member of the community that wanted to makes some extra cash could build these and sell them without having to have a system sent to them to mod for consolization...