SCAMMER ALERT neo-geo 2

[P00t]

neo-geo 2 took $125 US dollars from me for some PC Engine Gear over 30 days ago.

Delivery was promised within 7-10 days and still nothing.

He answered a few of my emails and kept promising to look into the matter several times and still never got back to me.

Now hes ignoring my emails as also after promising after too many times its time to sort this out the hard way.

Alls I expect is a Refund, You see that this is a Total put off to deal with the overseas sellers as its not easy to sort out these matters.

I hope to see my money back within good time.

I know hes been known as a Bootleg pusher, but I hope he hasnt took me for granted and lied about shipping, even the tracking number isnt showing any information, in this case anyone can make up a tracking number.

Thanks for listening

From One Pissed Off Member.

[leepantalone]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
neo-geo 2 took $125 US dollars from me for some PC Engine Gear over 30 days ago.

Delivery was promised within 7-10 days and still nothing.

He answered a few of my emails and kept promising to look into the matter several times and still never got back to me.

Now hes ignoring my emails as also after promising after too many times its time to sort this out the hard way.

Alls I expect is a Refund, You see that this is a Total put off to deal with the overseas sellers as its not easy to sort out these matters.

I hope to see my money back within good time.

I know hes been known as a Bootleg pusher, but I hope he hasnt took me for granted and lied about shipping, even the tracking number isnt showing any information, in this case anyone can make up a tracking number.

Thanks for listening

From One Pissed Off Member.

Is that a picture of you or Neo Geo 2?

He has a rather expensive MVS proto / possible boot on Ebay right now too...... could he be going to the dark side? The dark fudge tunnel of Dion Dakis Land?

Say it isnt true:help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

[P00t]

Originally posted by leepantalone
Is that a picture of you or Neo Geo 2?

He has a rather expensive MVS proto / possible boot on Ebay right now too...... could he be going to the dark side? The dark fudge tunnel of Dion Dakis Land?

Say it isnt true:help: :help: :help: :help: :help:


Hi, that photo is in my Sig, thats Nesagwa (a freind on here).

I dont know what hes upto to be honest, he has been banned on here before from selling bootlegs, as they say Habbits Die Hard.

This is Neo-Geo 2 by the way.
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/snake-eyes/ng234.jpg

[leepantalone]

...................too bad if he doesnt make it good!:oh_no: :oh_no: :oh_no: Hope he gets the ban if he doesnt.

[c.t.h]

check your post office, they might have it and forgot to leave you a slip to pick it up..

[KOF_FANATIK]

He won't scam you , cth is right
I got a NAOMI system from him and that was alot more.

GREAT guy :)

Very helpful and tries to make his buyer happy, as much as possible

[Allien133]

I hope it works out for you.

[SHO]

May be it got delay from custom

if he didnt declare the item at a low value and the custom decide to tax it, this process can take very long

i had items taking over 30 days to reach me from US because of Tax on the bloody parcel :mad:

[P00t]

Originally posted by SHO
May be it got delay from custom

if he didnt declare the item at a low value and the custom decide to tax it, this process can take very long

i had items taking over 30 days to reach me from US because of Tax on the bloody parcel :mad:

I dont think he even sent the parcel, so theres nothing to delay.

[Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
I dont think he even sent the parcel, so theres nothing to delay.
Pig boy is a lot of things but I dont think he is a scammer . Shipping to the UK sucks my ass . I sent Rot some stuff and i remember it took about a month. He send me a package that got lost in the mail . I will never ship to the UK again , unless its to rot cause he is a good guy .

[neo-geo 2]

Ok,
I am not scamming you, here is the recipt from mailing your package 1 day after you sent me the money. Shipping was $32 plus insurance. I only charged you $25 for shipping and everything.

Last week you pmed me that you were worried that it was lost. I contacted the post office that night, and they told me I had to wait 30 days to file a claim. I cannot file a claim till March 14. I informed you of this soon after.

Recipt.
http://www.atomis-wave.com/ins.gif

[neo-geo 2]

Oh, I havent recieved ANY E-mails from you. My address is Sconyers@agtelco.com

[SHO]

You gonna get hit with a Tax bill snake eye!!! :emb:

item was insured for $ 200

that is reason for the delay as i said... custom delay.... oh boy...:oh_no:

unlucky

[P00t]

Originally posted by neo-geo 2
Ok,
I am not scamming you, here is the recipt from mailing your package 1 day after you sent me the money. Shipping was $32 plus insurance. I only charged you $25 for shipping and everything.

Last week you pmed me that you were worried that it was lost. I contacted the post office that night, and they told me I had to wait 30 days to file a claim. I cannot file a claim till March 14. I informed you of this soon after.

Recipt.
http://www.atomis-wave.com/ins.gif

Yeah you did tell me about the 30 day wait for insurance but that was 9 days ago.
I asked you in the chat room to look into this for me and you never replied and disapered.
Ive had 5 promises that you would at least track it down and nothing became, you gave me your word the other night in chat that you promise to come back with something information wise.
How would you feel if this was you eh.

I had to do this to get your attention, and to be honest you still aint helped much, in future you should pay the extra few dollars for tracking numbers so people can see where they are.

[neo-geo 2]

I cant do anything till the 14th

You asked for insurance, so I got you insurance, you did not ask for tracking, so I did not buy it.

[P00t]

Originally posted by neo-geo 2
Oh, I havent recieved ANY E-mails from you. My address is Sconyers@agtelco.com

And what the fuck you insurred it for $200, thats false filing, If I incurr massive charges you should pay something towards that has thats $75.00 unesessary.

[P00t]

Originally posted by neo-geo 2
I cant do anything till the 14th

You asked for insurance, so I got you insurance, you did not ask for tracking, so I did not buy it.

You didnt offer fucking tracking, And I didnt ask you to lie about the insurance price, the max should of been $100 as it was $25 for shipping, thats likely to double my Customs tax now.

[P00t]

Originally posted by SHO
You gonna get hit with a Tax bill snake eye!!! :emb:

item was insured for $ 200

that is reason for the delay as i said... custom delay.... oh boy...:oh_no:

unlucky

Will you stop spamming my feckin thread man, I know how customs works, but you did make me think that he doubled the insurance price, hence double tax charges.

[neo-geo 2]

I told the woman at the post office to put $125 insurance. It is sold in $100 incriments, so she put $200 on it.

If you really want to get shitty about things, You should pay the extra $10 I incured when shipping it, but im not gonna be an asshole and bitch about a small ammount I lost from mailing it.

And editing images of myself is real mature, isnt it.

[Xander Crews]

Brian may be iffy on a few things but he's not going to rip you off. Also you need to specify what insurance value you would like and if you want DC then you should ask, it is not up to the seller. Especially with customs being the big deal I notice it is in the UK you should know to say how much you want it insured for.

[Atro]

I always take these threads with a grain of salt.

Sometimes parcels are lost without any good reason, and the buyers start imediatelly to stress like they were scammed.

Hang on and try to find a good way to solve this.
You should call the customs and P.O. to inquire first.

I already been In the same situation. And the parcel finally appeared.

[P00t]

Originally posted by neo-geo 2
I told the woman at the post office to put $125 insurance. It is sold in $100 incriments, so she put $200 on it.

If you really want to get shitty about things, You should pay the extra $10 I incured when shipping it, but im not gonna be an asshole and bitch about a small ammount I lost from mailing it.

And editing images of myself is real mature, isnt it.

Didnt you look at your recipt DUMBO, If I send somebody items I insure for what its worth not to make profit.

Its Imature that you blaim somebody else i.e. the Women at the post office. Anyway it should be insured for $100.

[P00t]

Originally posted by Atrophyed
I always take these threads with a grain of salt.

Sometimes parcels are lost without any good reason, and the buyers start imediatelly to stress like they were scammed.

Hang on and try to find a good way to solve this.
You should call the customs and P.O. to inquire first.

I already been In the same situation. And the parcel finally appeared.

It may Turn up yeah, but now im pissed that the insurance is doubled when it should be $100, now my Import Tax will double.
Less the point of this thread, but it was the only way to get him to get his finger out.

[SHO]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
Will you stop spamming my feckin thread man, I know how customs works, but you did make me think that he doubled the insurance price, hence double tax charges.

i was only pointing out the insurance value...:rolleyes:

don't have to take out your angar on me :rolleyes:

sorry for spamming then :confused:

[P00t]

Originally posted by neo-geo 2
I told the woman at the post office to put $125 insurance. It is sold in $100 incriments, so she put $200 on it.

If you really want to get shitty about things, You should pay the extra $10 I incured when shipping it, but im not gonna be an asshole and bitch about a small ammount I lost from mailing it.

And editing images of myself is real mature, isnt it.

FOR PEOPLE THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THE MATH, HERES THE SUMS:

OK PAID $100 for the Goods and $25 for shipping.

So anybody with a Brain would say that was only worth $100.

As Neo-Geo 2 says that they only go up in $100 Increments, but he tryed to insure the shipping charge for some Monkey reason.

Now in the UK we have Monkeys working at Customs who like to charge Tax to the innocnet like me, butI expectted this anyway.

Now that he has doubled the charges for insurance this will double my Customs Tax.

Thats a FALSE claim if you ask me.

Fair enough I now have Neo-Geo 2's attention on the matter but im pissed at that recipt scan, seeing that he wants to make if he has to pay me back, that sucks in my book.

I have included the Top statment as proof to Brian saying that it only gos up in $100 increments!!!!!!!

:blow_top: :blow_top: :blow_top: :blow_top: :blow_top:

[P00t]

Originally posted by SHO
i was only pointing out the insurance value...:rolleyes:

don't have to take out your angar on me :rolleyes:

sorry for spamming then :confused:

No offence Wee Man, Just pissed off.

Ill get my Punch Bag out.

[Bluevoodu]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
It may Turn up yeah, but now im pissed that the insurance is doubled when it should be $100, now my Import Tax will double.
Less the point of this thread, but it was the only way to get him to get his finger out.

international shipping can be a pain sometimes... .for both sides... just wait it out a bit. It can take over 1-2 months airmail... especially if things get held up.

but ... if you want to cheat on the value coming in (and I feel sorry for you that you have to pay so much tax... I really do sympathize. I can't even begin to imagine how much that sucks.) don't insure your packages... or find them locally.
really.... thats the only good way of doing things without getting taxed. AND make sure the seller does not include an invoice.

normally ... customs only goes on what is claimed for tax.

and insurance ONLY covers what is claimed on a package.

†B†V†

[RAINBOW PONY]

Dude, if there is going to be a high fee to pay when you would get the package, just deny the package.

The package will be sent back to Neo Geo 2, and then he can ship it again with the Right amount written on it.

Anyway, that's what I would do....

[P00t]

Originally posted by Bluevoodu
international shipping can be a pain sometimes... .for both sides... just wait it out a bit. It can take over 1-2 months airmail... especially if things get held up.

but ... if you want to cheat on the value coming in (and I feel sorry for you that you have to pay so much tax... I really do sympathize. I can't even begin to imagine how much that sucks.) don't insure your packages... or find them locally.
really.... thats the only good way of doing things without getting taxed. AND make sure the seller does not include an invoice.

normally ... customs only goes on what is claimed for tax.

and insurance ONLY covers what is claimed on a package.

†B†V†

Ive learnt by this mistake, I will never buy Internationally again.

[SHO]

Originally posted by DARK_ANDY
Dude, if there is going to be a high fee to pay when you would get the package, just deny the package.

The package will be sent back to Neo Geo 2, and then he can ship it again with the Right amount written on it.

Anyway, that's what I would do....

The sender will have to pay return postage! I don't think he'll be pleased about that! :tickled:

[DevilRedeemed]

Dark Andy is completely right - send it back and get the seller to work his end out. You are accepting paying the tax, but not what's being charged. That's not your concern. Shit like this has happened to me with various parcels, where the seller puts some ridiculous amount of declared value and customs has a field day.

But don't think that buying internationally is always this way, in fact it rarely is. Good luck with this.

[Bluevoodu]

Originally posted by DARK_ANDY
Dude, if there is going to be a high fee to pay when you would get the package, just deny the package.

The package will be sent back to Neo Geo 2, and then he can ship it again with the Right amount written on it.

Anyway, that's what I would do....

don't do this.

if the buyer did not check "return to sender if not delivered" it wil be lost..... NO QUESTIONS ASKED. This is just a small check box that I have missed before as well.

I am serious.... that is a bad option. What happens if his product goes missing? you will get no refund..etc.

all I can say is... guys.... try to work this out maturely, honestly, and fast. Just work towards a solution.

I don't want to jump in the middle but just stay calm... everything will work out.... it may take longer.... but just be cool.... work with each other.....

†B†V†

[P00t]

Im taking this to Jerry Springer.

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/snake-eyes/BSMB1.jpg

[neo-geo 2]

You know what, FUCK YOU. I was gonna be reasionable and pay half of the tax you are gonna have to pay, but since you continue to treat me like shit, your not getting a dime.

[Magnaflux]

gutted.


Seriously, mail from the US to the UK blows.

One more thing: screw you UKers on tariffs. If you don't like taxes, move elsewhere. Either that or put the Queen on a budget.

[The BEAST3]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
Hi, that photo is in my Sig, thats Nesagwa (a freind on here).

I dont know what hes upto to be honest, he has been banned on here before from selling bootlegs, as they say Habbits Die Hard.

This is Neo-Geo 2 by the way.
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/snake-eyes/ng234.jpg



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Atro]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
Less the point of this thread, but it was the only way to get him to get his finger out.

OK. I understand your point. But you have to admit that It doesn't give you the right to call him a scammer.

Untill now, he's been correct helping you out. Just a shame he didn't replied to your mails.

I think there's enough evidence now to believe your parcel was CLEARLY sent. If it gets lost It isn't Neo-Geo 2 fault for sure.

Just hope you get your stuff. But don't take that to the extreme man!:smirk:

[Bluevoodu]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
in future you should pay the extra few dollars for tracking numbers so people can see where they are.


what shipping method did YOU pay for?

If you paid for airmail.... TRACKING IS NOT AVAILABLE
If you want tracking... you must buy EMS.

†B†V†

[KaedesBlade]

Originally posted by Snake-Eyes
Im taking this to Jerry Springer.

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/snake-eyes/BSMB1.jpg


Real mature messing with his photo. :rolleyes:

[gunrock46]

Originally posted by KaedesBlade
Real mature messing with his photo. :rolleyes:

Agreed. Sounds like another newbie neo whiner in full force. Neo Geo 2 has proven everything and backed it up. Apologize for being an asshole and wait until the date he can file a claim. Sheesh.

[leepantalone]

Originally posted by KaedesBlade
Real mature messing with his photo. :rolleyes:

You have to admit, the picture is kind of funny.....:lol: :lol: :lol: Regardless of guilt.

[Allien133]

Originally posted by gunrock46
Agreed. Sounds like another newbie neo whiner in full force. Neo Geo 2 has proven everything and backed it up. Apologize for being an asshole and wait until the date he can file a claim. Sheesh.

Yean, he has been doing what he can to help you out. I think your are taking this situation like a little kid. :emb:

[soopafamicom]

If the package has gone missing for real in transit then you will get $200 worth of insurance and instead of just $100.

Normally when you have to make an insurance claim the person who is paying out tries to find some excuse not to pay the full amount,you have to send in all kinds of proof as to how much the missing items are worth and any differences in value are leapt on.

Ok so if and when it turns up you may have to pay a little bit more,but if it is genuinely lost then you will gain from this.

I have had only 1 item go missing from the US in the probably 60 or so items I have had from over there 95% of them have arrived within 7-10 days,the rest may have taken upto 8 weeks to arrive on the slow boat and not airmail.

Just chill out and relax and let things take their course and stuff being abusive to everyone who is only trying to help out.

[Spectre]

And the moral of this story is; UK peeps ask your sellers to mark items as gifts and declare a sensible value on the item. If they won't, don't buy from them. This is the only way to keep instances of being totally fleeced by customs down to a minimum.

Oh and Magnaflux; have a word with yourself sunshine. Is it really necessary to turn this into a 'us versus them' slanging match?

I think I will wait until the conclusion of the ongoing Zintrick proto affair before I make my mind up how trustworthy neo-geo 2 is...

[Razoola]

Quite a sad story really. The first time I bought from outside the EU I got burned through customs fees. since then I have found loop holes.

Seems like alot of worry over nothing so far. A few things would have made the situation less though.... Neogeo2 could have scanned the entire shipping form showing the recievers address for that little bit of extra reasurance that it has been shipped. Also better communication and not starting to flame the seller so fast from the buyers side. When you start buying internationally you need to take time zones into account as it can lead to delayed responces from sellers.

Note to the buyer... Dont worry about any custom taxes until you know its indeed waiting in customs, many times things slip though and you could be worrying for nothing. Now if you get stuck with paying the bill make sure you go on a friday afternoon to the customs office (people are normally more lieant then becase its getting to the weekend). First make sure the seller has not included a invoice of any kind. Now when you get to customs tell them that it has been sent to you to borrow and it will be returned back to the usa so if you have to pay import duty you want it back when you ship the goods back. Now there is a process for this but its long winded so you have a 50/50 chance they will just let you take it, you never know.

As a last resort if you really dont want to pay anything you can refuse the package and say you will not accept it until you only pay tax on the true value of the contents. customs will then have to contact the seller so its a good idea if you take their details with you. Also take proof of what you actually paid for the goods (paypal recipts etc). They will then contact the seller who can then explain about this 100 dollar inserance rule. doing this means you probably wont beable to take the goods with you right away but youll get the tax down to the correct price.

Finally do not use your first experiance of buying internationally put you aff from doing it again. Use it as a learning experiance. If you dont want to ever get burned with customs fees always get the seller to do the following.

1) Have the Seller mark the contents on the package as a ' *GIFT*' and also have them write 'NO COMMERCIAL VALUE, VALUE FOR CUTOMS $20 US DOLLARS ONLY'.

2) Have the seller in the description of contents of the package always describe the contents as 'OLD'. For example '1x OLD ARCADE GAME CART'.

3) Make sure the seller never includes an invoice on the inside or outside of the package. If the seller must send an invoice ask them to sent it in a seperate letter if they can (you can say you wants goods shipped to address x but goods to be invoived to address y for example).

4) Know the Seller before you buy. For example ask people in forums like these if they have had dealings with the person you are about to buy from.

At the end of the day you can never be 100% sure you wont pay any fees but folowing these simple steps you can make it far less likley.

Raz

[BIG]

I've dealt with Neo-Geo 2 several times in the past,buying and selling,and I have never experienced any kind of problem,whatsoever.

Deal with confidence.

[Lovecraft0110]

STFU, Snake Eyes.

You're acting like a whining newbie, which is probably what you are. He has made a MISTAKE about the insurance, yeah. Big deal. You, on the contrary, are acting like an ass from the beginning, basically.

1. If you wanted to have insurance, you should have specified the value that you wanted to declare. Geez.

2. If you wanted a tracking number, you should have asked for EMS shipping. Geez.

Bottomline: 95% of the stuff I buy I buy it from the US. I have never had any problems, even when buying much MORE expensive stuff like musical instruments. Buying internationally is not the problem, the problem is knowing how to do it. Geez.

[kaos]

now I didnt bother read 2 pages post
I just say neo-geo2 is NOT a scammer

and snake-eye looks a nice bloke to me...maybe He just doesnt have enough experience, so He's acting like a n00b

just a general suggestion since I live in UK
and I'm using ebay/paypal from almost 3 years
and I've ALWAYS been buying just from Japan and the US

when sending a package from US to UK
the best(and ONLY IMO) choice is "Global Priority Mail"
never evr had any problems with it

avoid EMS cause is more expensive and on topa that you'd pay extra insane taxes at your door
furthemore .....Parcelforce is responsable for EMS in UK
and ParcelForce sux my ass
they lost a package long ago
while send back to the sender another one

[kobylka68]

I like the way Ryan (rimm_rs) sent my game. He sent it EMS and insured it for its full value but he labeled the package as "Old game being sent for repair". No customs fees and it was delivered quickly. I thought that was great way to declare the package.

[Spectre]

Originally posted by kobylka68
I like the way Ryan (rimm_rs) sent my game. He sent it EMS and insured it for its full value but he labeled the package as "Old game being sent for repair". No customs fees and it was delivered quickly. I thought that was great way to declare the package.

Interesting, sounds like this uses the "paperwork to be filled out on the way back out if charged now" loophole Raz mentioned. Personally I wouldn't want to take the risk of my package encountering a particularly anal customs officer, but this gives an interesting insight into how customs works...

[Razoola]

Yes saying the goods are being returned 'from repair' or 'for repair' is also a great method to bypass customs although if you get a tasty customs officer they can ask you to produce the customs recipt for taxes paid then the original was first delivered or paperwork showing then the package was first sent depending on id its marked 'from repair to 'for repair'.

At the end of the day the best way to be sure is the have the seller simply mark the goods as a gift with an extra low value. This always works unless your obviousy trying to send something that customs know has been undervalued (like trying to send the latest pc hardware for example). The only proplem with marking low values on packages is if they do actually get lost in the post. You can only claim for the value mentioned. The only way around this is to use a currier like fedex who automatically insure all goods no matter the contents value, problem here is the higher shipping price.

Raz

[neo-geo 2]

Thanks for all the info guys.

Ive never really sent anything to the UK, but now I know how to avoid the taxes.

I guess we have all learned something from this transaction.