Neo Competition Games?

After reading the SNK-shitfest that was linked in the War Rom from SRK.com, I was wondering, which SNK games are widely considered to be competition worthy? I heard mentions of KoF '98 and 2002, RBFFS... any others? Are these three bad choices themselves?


What do you all think?

-AG

I've always considered the KOF series to be pretty damn competition worthy, and looking back on all the good times in college, I'll definitely add Samurai Shodown 2 to that list...

ah, nothing like a 28 win streak with Galford to make 'em swallow hard before plunking in that quarter...

I think KOF'97-2k3 has been considered competition in tournaments and such. I mean, SBO (Super Battle Opera) has KOF every year as a major tournament game. This year at SBOQ (Super Battle Opera Qulifiers), SAmurai Spirits Zero and King of Fighters 2003 are 2 major tournament games for comp wise.

Hmmm, perhaps time to be brushing up on my KoF... are there others though? I hear a lot good about the Real Bout series. Too bad Art of Fighting doesn't get it's due, I'd rock wtih that, lol

-AG

I'd definitely add SS1 and Puzzle Bobble. Both competition worthy.

Droid

Samurai Showdown II is as good as it gets, and Chaos is not that bad when you got people who know how to play.

KOF98 and 2k2 seem to be the favorites. SS2 and SS0 definitely belong among the competition worthy.

KOF 94-97 aren't tourney worthy cause of the bugs and simple infinates, KOF 99 not many people like, 2000 has too many striker infins that are easily done and 2k1 has too many bugs.

SS2, SS0, MOTW, RBFF2, KOF 98, KOF 02 and maybe LB1...hell, only a few of those titles are worthy, and for none fighters go with Magical Drop 3, that game is insanely competative in the Neo scene.

breal said:

... and Chaos is not that bad when you got people who know how to play.

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I think it's the opposite. It's when you have people that really know how to play SvC that it just falls apart.

breal said:

and Chaos is not that bad when you got people who know how to play.

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Wow, I can't believe I missed this, SvC is such a horrible game if played competitivly, if you get 2 people who know how to play the game well, you'll see how bad it is, get 2 beginners and it'll look like a decent game....that's if they don't learn of all the infins and bugs.

yeah giby is pretty much hit it on the head.

samsho1 = ??
never gets mentioned.

samsho2 = YES
is popular but not very well balanced at all with ukyo being considered god tier.

samsho3 = NO
infinite problems.

samsho4 = NO
cd system and infinites.

samsho5 = YES
balance is ok. yoshi is overpowered and has an infinite but doesnt quite break the game.

rb1 = NO
infinites and balance issues

rbffs = NO
kim, sokaku and some others = balance issues and the HUGE combos easily done with the sway system also not good.

rb2 = YES
imo one of the tightest snk fighters in terms of balance and system, damage etc. not perfect but no fighter is.

lb1 = YES/MAYBE
havent played it enough but seems to have good damage ratios, balance and limitations on combos.

lb2 = NO
akari, infinites, zantetsus silly super abuseable A+C trick in the air, one hit into 2/3 life combos, mixing up overheads easily

kof94 = NO
redizzies and full bar combos

kof95 = NO
as above

kof96 = ??
some say no but i am not totally sure.. there are some big combos from memory so maybe no.

kof97 = NO
worst kof for infinites and juggle glitches. add in orochi leona and iori.. ouch.

kof 98 = YES
not as well balanced as 2k2 but generally considered comp worthy.

kof 99 = NO
power mode (iirc) fb->super fb->fb->super fb and repeat with bao, striker juggles and infinites from memory

kof 2k = NO
big infinite off striker probs.

kof 2k1 = NO
may lee infinites, foxy, kula...lots of probs with infinites

kof2k2 = YES
this and rb2 are neck and neck for tightness. generally considered to be the most comp worthy snk game.

kof2k3 = NO
duolon, one trick play, lots of cheese. fun though.

samsho1 = ?? never gets mentioned.

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I wonder why that is? I don't know how SS1 can be left off the competition list. Unless ppl are too young to have played it in the arcades, never got really good at it or played an inferior port. Its one of the greatest fighters hands down. Its very deep. I'm still learning the nuances about the game 11 years later...As for Ukyo being godlike, I'll challenge anyone to a competition against Ukyo, either SS1 or SS2. I'll work that Ukyo over with Gen-an, np.

Droid (Gen-an Master)

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I wonder why that is? I don't know how SS1 can be left off the competition list. Unless ppl are too young to have played it in the arcades, never got really good at it or played an inferior port. Its one of the greatest fighters hands down. Its very deep. I'm still learning the nuances about the game 11 years later...As for Ukyo being godlike, I'll challenge anyone to a competition against Ukyo, either SS1 or SS2. I'll work that Ukyo over with Gen-an, np.

Droid (Gen-an Master)

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I used to say the same thing about the Ukyo thing, Gen-an is my best character and I've won a few SS2 tournies with him, but none of the people would use Ukyo. I have played some crazy ass Ukyo players that can put in some work, I played this one guy who nearly beat me with 2 damn perfects 1 time, once you see how good some one is with him, you'll see what I mean...this is from one Gen-an master to another

Your Gen-an will have to face off against my Gen-an one of these days MasterGiby-san

Do you know of a place where I can find these Ukyo players? I'll make the trip and vanquish them as well.

Droid (Gen-an Master)

I've always found the KOF series to be pretty competition worthy. I haven't had the opportunity to compete with much else though. It's hard finding people up here. But I just can't get enough of blue mary.

hehe, that day should come soon enough, I'll find a day where I don't have anything to do and I'll let you know ahead of time.

It's really a pain in the ass finding good SS1 and 2 competition now a days, most people are too into the newer fighters that they neglect the old school fighters. The only other person I know who's good at the first 2 SS games is my brother, he's a Houmaru/Ukyo/Wan-Fu user in SS1, and a Genjuro/Haoumaru/Wanfu/Ukyo I forgot who's his best character though, last time we played eachother in it was when Bobak stopped by my place last year.

It's really a pain in the ass finding good SS1 and 2 competition now a days, most people are too into the newer fighters that they neglect the old school fighters.

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Yeah I know what ya mean. Thats why I'm so geeked up whenever I see someone say that they play and are good.

Back in the day, when Samurai Shodown was released I played against everyone good that I could find, driving to different arcades. Back then there were tons of ppl that played SS1, which is why I find it dissapointing that there arent that many hardcore Samurai players to be found here in SoCal and especially here at NG.com where you'd think there would be plenty of us..

I don't have that much experience in SS2 yet. SS1 is where I'm an expert at... But I hooked up with JDiamond and SolidSnake2 in L.A. and held my own at SS2 with gen-an despite not knowing all his moves and not being familiar with the new moves of the other characters. I totally owned with Gen-an in SS1 though ... JDiamond said he never saw a player that played Gen-an like I did. Spark and I keep saying we're gonna start playing SS2 but SS1 is just such a perfect, simple but deep fighter it always brings us back...I've been playing SS1 for since its release so I guess that makes it 11 years or so. Anyways definitely drop me a pm anytime ya want to test your skills against me. Don't mind drivin up if thats what its gonna take. Hell tomorrow is good for me GF is gonna be busy with her college work.

lmk

Droid

It's funny to see how everyone lists their favorites games
as the most competitive....

Personally, Twinkle Star Sprites is the best competition worthy game on the Neo............

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It's funny to see how everyone lists their favorites games
as the most competitive....

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Amen reverend!!!

I could see SSII, Garou, and KoF 02 as being competition worthy.

*notices everyone is listing fighters when the topic of the thread isn't specifically for fighters*

So instead of just making the same reply again like a lot of people have done so far I will add my two cents in and list...

Bust-A-Move
and
Magical Drop 3

OMG WHY NOT TEH FIGHTERS!? Because everyone else already listed the fighters I think are comp worthy.

And these two games are very competitive in 2player mode. Seriously, I've had some very heated BAM matches against a few members of this site. Same with MD3. People please realize that the Neo has GREAT non-fighters.

Matt, I mentioned 1 puzzle game, so

The Neo has tons of games that are good for competition, but most of them are single player. All of the Metal Slug games can be played competitivly, whoever gets the highest score or whoever rescues the most POW's win.

Shit, all of the sports games are good for competition, but they move too slow to be anywhere near exciting.