My 2 Cents on this Neo Geo vs Atomiswave ordeal.

SPINMASTER X

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Just my 2 cents(euro cents now that i live in europe hehe)

Ok first of all I think this arguing is just gonna be never ending because its just not all adding up.

I came to a realization after looking at both sides. This site is more of a Neo Geo hardware site than an SNK fan site(however i'm not saying people here aren't SNK fans). Most of the original members here came to buy, trade and discuss neo geo mvs/aes hardware and games, then a few years down the line fans of just SNK came here(this includes me). Some of the just straight up SNK fans had aes/mvs's and some didn't but regardless they didn't have as strong as a connection to the hardware as some of the original members.

One side happy about the new move and is trying to figure out why people are against the move to atomiswave while the other is trying to keep the Neo Geo alive as long as possible. When clearly you have 2 different kinds of fans arguing about something and it basically just goes around and around in a circle and can't come to a conclusion. When I realized this I just quit with the arguments cuz it served absolutely no purpose.

With that said, the name of this site is "Neo-Geo.com" and the main purpose of this site is to deal with Neo-Geo hardware and not all of the concerns of SNK(TO AN EXTENT). Sure This place has probably the highest concentration of SNK fans that isn't dead all the time but it still stands as a Neo Geo site more than an SNK site.

So for the SNK fans who don't have a strong connection to the hardware, a place like SNK-Capcom.com is more suitable as the place to call "home". I'm not saying we should all leave, however I'm saying its useless to come here and persecute people because they don't support the move to Atomiswave.

Thats all I have to say.

p.s. I hate making serious posts. I feel dirty, I think i'll go spam up the warroom with some lame ass goofy topics now.:loco:
 
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The Atomiswave supporters have hardly persecuted the die-hard SNK fans. They simply are willing to accept the move in hardware since the games are what they care about. After all, it's not like in a hardware vs. games poll, the hardware usually wins out.
 
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Well the main thing is its just hard to sallow that the NEO GEO is actually done. I am a fan of SNK and forever will be. Just because SEGA stopped producing hardware, doesn't mean I hate their new games on other hardware, ie VF4: Evo which is the greatest game ever made. It's just going to be a bit weird to see KOF, SS, and MS debut their latest efforts on a new platform. I welcome the change, but at the same time I think we are all mourning the amazing 14 year run that the NEO GEO AES/MVS had.
 
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jethrek said:
The Atomiswave supporters have hardly persecuted the die-hard SNK fans. They simply are willing to accept the move in hardware since the games are what they care about. After all, it's not like in a hardware vs. games poll, the hardware usually wins out.
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Maybe some of the other AW supporters haven't but I did. I ragged the AW haters to no end when it was first announced. However no matter how silly it may seem to us for people to reject a move to new hardware you can't argue with people about seperate hardware on a site specifically about neo-geo hardware.
 
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understandable.

but, if it weren't for SNK, the Neo Geo would have never existed.

neo-geo.com = SNK/Neo Geo fan site
 
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Re: neo 2

cc7002151 said:
it would be cool if they called it the neo 2.a more powerful system that still used the same carts and would still play all the old neo carts that are used now
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Of course thats impossible since its Sammy's hardware, however had their been new SNK made hardware then I don't think there would be very many people who wouldn't support it, and this site would live on alot longer seeing as it wouldn't threaten this site and it would live up to the name as "neo-geo.com". Atomiswave kinda threatens the name of this place.
 
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lithy said:
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I see Neo-Geo.com as:

DEDICATED TO SNK'S 24-BIT 2D SYSTEMS & GAMES:

That to me only means SNK systems with the blue SNK
letters on them. That to me only means AES, MVS, NGCD,
NGPC, & HYPER64.
Call me blind whatever, I don't care, I am here for what
the site is, not for off-topic shit.









Not ports, atomiswave etc...
 
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Spike23 said:
understandable.

but, if it weren't for SNK, the Neo Geo would have never existed.

neo-geo.com = SNK/Neo Geo fan site
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You make very a good point, but Spinmaster's observation is dead-on accurate.
 
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Spike23 said:
understandable.

but, if it weren't for SNK, the Neo Geo would have never existed.

neo-geo.com = SNK/Neo Geo fan site
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What we need is just a straight up SNK site. SNK-Capcom.com and Orochinagi are great but they get kinda dead at times and S-C.com has its fair shair of scrubs. For so long I had always thought of this place as an SNK fan site something like SRK is for capcom fans but to my realiztion its not. Of course its too much of a long shot for a straight up SNK site cuz there aren't as many of us and it'd be hard to bring us all together under one site unlike SRK.

There still may be hope for Fierceslash.com though but like it said, its hard to bring SNK fans together.
 
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Meh, nobody here is being "persecuted". It's just the standard flamage and arguments that go on about 27 gazillion other topics here. I don't see the problem with people arguing about Atomiswave vs. Neo Geo. Since when has ng.com been a peace-loving society?
 
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xtoo_short20x said:
I see Neo-Geo.com as:

DEDICATED TO SNK'S 24-BIT 2D SYSTEMS & GAMES:

That to me only means SNK systems with the blue SNK
letters on them. That to me only means AES, MVS, NGCD,
NGPC, & HYPER64.

Hyper64 is not a 24 bit system and neither is NGPC. so if you're just going word for word on DEDICATED TO SNK'S 24-BIT 2D SYSTEMS & GAMES, you'd have to get rid of those two sections too.


faulty logic.:p
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galfordo said:
Meh, nobody here is being "persecuted". It's just the standard flamage and arguments that go on about 27 gazillion other topics here. I don't see the problem with people arguing about Atomiswave vs. Neo Geo. Since when has ng.com been a peace-loving society?
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Its not about peace, this place is always haywire. Its just this argument is different from the other arguments in the fact that atomiswave fans are trying to figure out why ng fans don't want the jump to new hardware. Its pretty pointless. Had this Argument been on say SNK-Capcom or orochinagi.com then it'd be different, it'd be just another argument. But this is an argument about new non-SNK hardware on a site devoted to SNK made neo geo hardware. Do you see what i'm getting at?
 
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SPINMASTER X said:
Its not about peace, this place is always haywire. Its just this argument is different from the other arguments in the fact that atomiswave fans are trying to figure out why ng fans don't want the jump to new hardware. Its pretty pointless. Had this Argument been on say SNK-Capcom or orochinagi.com then it'd be different, it'd be just another argument. But this is an argument about new non-SNK hardware on a site devoted to SNK made neo geo hardware. Do you see what i'm getting at?
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Yeah, but I just disagree with you about its importance. I still think the argument is relevant here, and should be fought out until it a) resolves itself, or b) people just get totally tired of it (this one isn't too far off). I think that the acceptance of the AW hardware is important to the future of the Neo Geo hardware, and to the future of this site.
 
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I agree with Galfordo on that last remark. Although AW talk is like the T-virus to this site (its morphing it into something as yet unseen here) you can't pretend that Neo Geo has been replaced as the hardware of choice by SNKP.

I really do believe that the solution would come from NG.COM making a sister site dedicated to SNK gaming. You could have a direct link on the side bar at the bottom even.

The problem undoubtedly with AW talk is that as its not SNK hardware it legitimises to an extent, talk of all other games that are and will be available on the Atomis. This is problematic. Also the fact that this site cannot take determined action for or against talk of the AW in areas dedicated solely to neo geo for fear of alienating members (yes its true that as gamers in the world of video games, fans of Neo Geo make up a drop in the ocean, but they are everything to this site).

I would hate to see this site - the best on the web dedicated to gaming, in my opinion by the way - have to change for the sake of this move.

A parallel site is the solution.
 
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galfordo said:
I think that the acceptance of the AW hardware is important to the future of the Neo Geo hardware, and to the future of this site.
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How so?
 
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DevilRedeemed said:
I would hate to see this site - the best on the web dedicated to gaming, in my opinion by the way - have to change for the sake of this move.

A parallel site is the solution.
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I disagree. I would hate to see this site's population get split up because some of it's members want to keep talking about new SNKP games into the future.

People talk about Dreamcast, Metroid Prime, Castlevania, cars, movies etc. in Unrelated without any problem...this shouldn't be any worse. Maybe create a new AW section (I realize I'm far from the first to suggest this) within Unrelated. The one thing this site has that S-C.com or anywhere else doesn't is a varied population that covers all aspects of SNK/Neo, from gaming to collecting to fans of the stories and characters to news to what have you. Orochi and now maybe FierceClash may have better gameplay talk, but they are mere slivers of this site.

Yeah, there are some people we could stand to lose, but don't break up the community in general.
 
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SPINMASTER X said:
How so?
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Well, they're just my projections, but here they are:

First, I think that if the AW fails miserably, then the SNK franchises of old will be in pretty big trouble. If this happens, I think that interest in the Neo Geo hardware will decrease. The hardcore fans will remain, but overall I think interest will decrease.

To me, it's sort of like the interest in older games when an excellent remake becomes available. Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, for example. R-type Delta and R-type Final, for another example. These are both software examples, but I think that if people want the software then they'll get the hardware.

That's why I think it's important for the Neo Geo hardware. If AW comes out and stinks up the industry, I think it will have an effect. Probaly smaller than it otherwise might be because the fanbase of the Neo Geo hardware is fairly dedicated, but it'll have an effect nonetheless.

As far as this website, I think that a fair amount of the revenue which helps maintain this is generated by profits from new home cart releases. If that revenue ceases to exist, then it might not make sense to continue to invest the time and money necessary to maintain this site.

On the other hand, if the AW carts are sold through the Neo Store, these profits could help maintain the site.

You've got to have something to keep this place going (unless Shawn wants to be a Neo Geo altruist). NOS isn't gonna keep coming in forever.
 
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Just change the 24-Bit forum to the Atomiswave forum. Problem solved! It keeps all the Atomiswave talk seperated, and at the same time, it will consolidate all the 24-bit forum topics into General Discussion, thus keeping General Discussion more alive than it is now.

Good e-idea me thinks.
 
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yeah, I really lean more towards this being a hardware site as well...

and although it is probably interested to most of N-G.coms fanbase... The atomiswave simply IS NOT the Neo Geo.
 
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Shawn knows something that we don't. And all of this banter is probably making him laugh.

Eventually he'll have to tell us somekind of news...
 
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