And why is it we're letting France take the spotlight on Haiti?

Why is Haiti not worth helping?

  • You see, Haiti doesn't have oil, so the Bushes will let them kill each other.

    Votes: 8 44.4%

  • It's mroe funt o watch Haitians kill each other.

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • We couldn't make up a link to Al-Qaeda?

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • There's a good reason. Really.

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
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jethrek said:
Like Nigeria, a humanitarian crisis hits another country.

And, while we talked a big line about the humanitarian needs in Iraq, we are mostly watching them kill each other.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/02/25/haiti.revolt/index.html

Considering Haiti is next door, and Nigeria wanted a US presence to help out, it's funny how the only country we"helped" was Iraq, doncha think?
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The US can't save take care of every country every time they have a problem. Occasionally, somebody else has to step up to the plate. Here comes US conspiracy theory #793 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:.
 
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Re: Re: And why is it we're letting France take the spotlight on Haiti?

galfordo said:
The US can't save take care of every country every time they have a problem. Occasionally, somebody else has to step up to the plate. Here comes US conspiracy theory #793 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:.
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Basic logic is a conspiracy theory? Haiti is having an acting and immedaite humanitarian problem. Iraq was a contained situation. Yet we invade Iraq, and won't even allow Haitians to take refuge here.

You'd have to be an idiot to believe Iraq had anything to do with humanitarian issues when we're obviously not interested in humanitarian issues right off our coast. Basic education would suggest to consider that the US had ulterior motives in Iraq.

But hey, we wouldn't want things like basic logic around would we?
 
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Re: Re: And why is it we're letting France take the spotlight on Haiti?

galfordo said:
The US can't save take care of every country every time they have a problem. Occasionally, somebody else has to step up to the plate.
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:( here we go again....
hmmmm let's see
Tonite I'm too sleepy....cant afford writing too much
I can just tell you that in Nigeria and Haiti people is in the shit and is asking for help

If I'n not wrong Iraq hadn't any kind of internal crisis
nobody was asking for help
 
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Ya in Iraq if you tried to ask for help or go against the regime you were killed good point.
 
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All I know is ONE BATTALION of French Foreign Legionnaires could get that shit under control. This is the kind of thing they've been deployed on for since it's Inception in 1831. *Why send in the Americans when those bad ass mofos would just take off from Corsica and kick some ass.

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verbel said:
Ya in Iraq if you tried to ask for help or go against the regime you were killed good point.
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A request for help in an active situation is still far more meaningful than the US deciding to help a static situation.
 
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I wanted to pick 'all of the above' but it wasn't a choice, so I picked 'we couldn't link it to al-qaeda?' as the next best choice.
 
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Mercenary X99 said:
All I know is ONE BATTALION of French Foreign Legionnaires could get that shit under control. This is the kind of thing they've been deployed on for since it's Inception in 1831. *Why send in the Americans when those bad ass mofos would just take off from Corsica and kick some ass.

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DAMN FUCKING STRAIGHT.

And besides, Haiti used to be a French colony, wasn't it?
 
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Oh look another conspiracy theory:rolleyes: I know I checked the address before I came in tonite, I'm positive it didn't say ArtBell.com at the door.

Seriously, Haiti has been nothing more than an absolute disaster for the past century, no US President has dealt with Haiti effectively. I'm not blaming Clinton for this current problem, but it is true that the Clinton administration is responsible for putting the savage Aristide in power.

It's always a damn conspiracy theory with you guys...I'm sure Halliburton fits into the picture here somewhere, just waiting for it to pop up. And don't come across all high and mighty, we all know that if Bush does do something of a Humanitarian effort, and it involves the military and some people getting shot, then 10 more conspiracy theories and also more accusations of Bush being a War Monger will surface from you very people who complain about complacency right now.

George Bush = the blame for ALL SOCIETAL ILLS....god these Democratic Underground threads are annoying as hell.
 
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You can call it a static situation. We had been Saudi Arabia for the past ten years doing operation southern watch and even if you say he didn't have WMD there still wasent a week that would go by were the southern no fly zone would be violated as well as many other things. I'm not saying we should'nt help the people in Haiti but, I find it very amusing that when we do do somthing everyone gets mad at us and, when we do not they still get mad.
 
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"Oh look another conspiracy theor"

Where's a "conspiracy"?

Conspiracy-
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.


Are you saying invading Iraq to plunder off its oil to Haliburton is a conspiracy? Well, we've yet another example of US apathy to help us eliminate the impossible. You seem to be calling the truth a conspiracy, but however improbable it may be it is the only logical deduction of the Bush administration's behavior.

Why is it everytime something intelligent, logical, and obvious is detracting fromt he bush administration you feel the need to use the cheesy illiterate catch-phrase "conspiracy theory" to try and strike it down? It doesn't work. :rolleyes:
 
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GunstarHero said:
Seriously, Haiti has been nothing more than an absolute disaster for the past century, no US President has dealt with Haiti effectively..
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so you're basically saying
"since we never dealt with the Haiti shit, why should we deal now, fuck'em all for the next century"

cool
 
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kaos said:
so you're basically saying
"since we never dealt with the Haiti shit, why should we deal now, fuck'em all for the next century"

cool
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Yeah, maybe we should try that in oil bearing countries- oh wait, then the Bush's family wealth wouldn't be so well supplied. Is that a conspiracy theory? No. It's a logical deduction based on the fact that the Bush's are OIL MONEY and have business relations with OIL COMPANIES.
 
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GunstarHero said:
Oh look another conspiracy theory:rolleyes: I know I checked the address before I came in tonite, I'm positive it didn't say ArtBell.com at the door.
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This isn't a conspiracy theory... he doesn't even mention the Jews. It's not a conspiracy theory unless you can find a link, however tenuous, to the Jews. :lol:
 
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kaos said:
so you're basically saying
"since we never dealt with the Haiti shit, why should we deal now, fuck'em all for the next century"

cool
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We've done our part. Let someone else enjoy the Haitian love for awhile :D.
 
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jethrek said:
"Oh look another conspiracy theor"

Where's a "conspiracy"?

Conspiracy-
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.


Are you saying invading Iraq to plunder off its oil to Haliburton is a conspiracy? Well, we've yet another example of US apathy to help us eliminate the impossible. You seem to be calling the truth a conspiracy, but however improbable it may be it is the only logical deduction of the Bush administration's behavior.

Why is it everytime something intelligent, logical, and obvious is detracting fromt he bush administration you feel the need to use the cheesy illiterate catch-phrase "conspiracy theory" to try and strike it down? It doesn't work. :rolleyes:
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Take a look at your original post and you'll see that it has conspiracy bs written all over it. That is all.
 
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jethrek said:
Yeah, maybe we should try that in oil bearing countries- oh wait, then the Bush's family wealth wouldn't be so well supplied. Is that a conspiracy theory? No. It's a logical deduction based on the fact that the Bush's are OIL MONEY and have business relations with OIL COMPANIES.
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You have seriously mangled the term "logical deduction". Can somebody on the left just admit for once that the shit they constantly spew is their opinion?
 
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jethrek said:
Yeah, maybe we should try that in oil bearing countries- oh wait, then the Bush's family wealth wouldn't be so well supplied. Is that a conspiracy theory? No. It's a logical deduction based on the fact that the Bush's are OIL MONEY and have business relations with OIL COMPANIES.
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Yes its a conspiracy theory to think the whole Iraq war was drummed up in Texas and the reason for war was really all about getting oil. Your CONSPIRACY THEORY didn't in fact turn out to be true did it? Do you see the price of Gasoline? It's not exactly coming down is it? It's the same as it was before the war and after 9/11. Do you know how much of the evil oil from Iraq that the USA has actually used for itself? 1%. WOW that conpiracy theory just blew up in Bush's face didn't it? What a dumbass, Bush had this huge conspiracy to get all the oil for himself, and then it turns out that he was only able to secure 1% for the USA....Bush is so stupid he foiled his own conspiracy!

Logical deduction...yeah to a conspiracy theorist its logical. Tell me Jethrek, did the U.S. land on the moon?
 
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kaos said:
so you're basically saying
"since we never dealt with the Haiti shit, why should we deal now, fuck'em all for the next century"

cool
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Can you fucking read? Here, let me repeat it for you: no US President has dealt with Haiti effectively We've certainly dealt with Haiti, just not effectively obviously.

Why doesn't your country do something about it? You have all the answers right? It's easy to blame the Americans isn't it? Easy to blame the Americans while sitting on the sidelines and not doing anything yourself, go fuck off.
 
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This isn't a conspiracy theory... he doesn't even mention the Jews. It's not a conspiracy theory unless you can find a link, however tenuous, to the Jews. :lol:
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Well yeah, like in Geometry where you have a 'given', Jews are the 'given' factor in conspiracy theories.

I'll just point out the Jew connection here, so the conspiracy theory is complete. There is always a Jew connection with everything the Bush administration does, especially dealing with foreign policy.

Donald Rumsfeld- Jew
Karl Rove - Jew
Paul Wolfowitz Jew
Ari Fleischer(he's gone now) Jew

Joe Lieberman- Jew who fully supports our actions in Iraq

John Kerry- voted for the Iraq war also! half Jew

OMFG...teh conspiracy:loco:
 
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Give it a rest.

If I was owner of this BBS I would not allow political or religious discussions in here. It is just stupid and just causes problems.

Why there is a Christian hating thread or a Republican hating thread posted almost every day?
 
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GunstarHero said:
Yes its a conspiracy theory to think the whole Iraq war was drummed up in Texas and the reason for war was really all about getting oil. Your CONSPIRACY THEORY didn't in fact turn out to be true did it? Do you see the price of Gasoline? It's not exactly coming down is it? It's the same as it was before the war and after 9/11. Do you know how much of the evil oil from Iraq that the USA has actually used for itself? 1%. WOW that conpiracy theory just blew up in Bush's face didn't it? What a dumbass, Bush had this huge conspiracy to get all the oil for himself, and then it turns out that he was only able to secure 1% for the USA....Bush is so stupid he foiled his own conspiracy!

Logical deduction...yeah to a conspiracy theorist its logical. Tell me Jethrek, did the U.S. land on the moon?
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No here is an interesting argument against the whole we only went into Iraq for oil bs conspiracy. Another good thing to point out against that is if we were stealing oil from Iraq why has the price of gas done nothing but increase since we invaded Iraq?
And I do believe that any oil being exported from Iraq is being done so under the oil for food program that the UN setup for them years ago.

Considering what is going on in Haiti right now would be defined as a revolution. The US has no real reason to intervine. That is something that the UN needs to decide to do not just one country.
 
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No here is an interesting argument against the whole we only went into Iraq for oil bs conspiracy. Another good thing to point out against that is if we were stealing oil from Iraq why has the price of gas done nothing but increase since we invaded Iraq?
And I do believe that any oil being exported from Iraq is being done so under the oil for food program that the UN setup for them years ago.

Considering what is going on in Haiti right now would be defined as a revolution. The US has no real reason to intervine. That is something that the UN needs to decide to do not just one country.
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The answer to this one is obvious: because Iraq is a mess, Halliburton is embezzling our tax payer's dollar, and OPEC has decided to clamp down on production to prevent damaging the oil fields excessively.

Feck man, US had no real reason to intervene on Iraq and they went there. Even Afghanistan seemed to have a better reason because at least Osama was in Afghan. We'll leap to the defense of Iraqis when they don't cry for help, but when Liberia and Haiti cry for help we do nothing? That's just hypocrisy right there. I thought our mission was to bring freedom to all in the world, according to Bush.
 
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