Your experience with Sega Saturn

Predator

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I want to get into Sega Saturn, but I don't know much about it, can some one recommend me some good games that are worth to buy the system? And is it better to mod the Saturn for playing imports or are there any good PAL games too?

A site with Jap. games screenshots would be helpfull too.

I appriciate any advice.
 

Baseley09

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All the supposed 2d great stuff is free in MAME, all the good 3D games are available in PAL like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Zwei, Burning Rangers, Sonic R, Soinc Jam, Shining Force III etc....
 

ClassicMode1985

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Import all the way with Saturn. (Japanese strictly)

Most affordable ports of the Neo and CPS-2

Such as

SNK:
Samurai Shodown 3 and 4
Real Bout Fatal Fury and Real Bout Special
Fatal Fury 3
World Heroes Perfect
Fighter's History Dynamite
Metal Slug
King of Fighters Collection (95, 96, and 97)

Capcom:
X-Men Vs. Street Fighter
Street Fighter Zero 1, 2 and 3
SF Collection
Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter
Vampire Hunter
Vampire Savior
CyberBots
Pocket Fighter
Super Puzzle Fighter 2X

Sega Goods:

Virtua Fighter 1, Remix, and Virtua Fighter 2
Fighter's MegaMix
Fighting Vipers
Panzer Dragoon 1, 2, and Saga
House of the Dead
Sonic Jam
Sonic R

Whats that you say? you dont like fighters that much? No Problem!

Radiant Silvergun
Sexy Parodius
Clockwork Knight 1 and 2
Nights
Christmas Nights
Burning Rangers

Want RPG's? No sweat

Tactics Ogre (JPN text only)
Suikoden Gaiden (JPN text only)
Albert's Odessy
Dragon Force 3
Shining Wisdom
Lunar (JPN Text only)
Lunar 2 (JPN text only)
Shining the Holy Ark

Want Classics?

Capcom Generations Vol. 1 (1942 Trilogy)
Capcom Generations Vol. 2 (Ghosts N' Goblins Trilogy)
Capcom Generations Vol. 4 ( Gunsmoke, Commando, and Mercs 2)
Capcom Generations Vol. 5 (SF2 WW, Hyper Fighting, and Champion Edition)


and of course the biggest reason to own a Saturn...Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight
Saturn is probably one of the most balanced systems in history
 
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Syxx573

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All the supposed 2d great stuff is free in MAME

It's sad but this is the main reason why I sold my system... but I'll get one back some day.
 

Predator

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Baseley09 said:
All the supposed 2d great stuff is free in MAME, all the good 3D games are available in PAL like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Zwei, Burning Rangers, Sonic R, Soinc Jam, Shining Force III etc....

What about Japanese imports?
 

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I love the SATURN, but I can't collect everything. *Some of the best times of my gaming life were with that system. Here is a list of what's good.

Sengoku Blade (Ace 2)
Virtua Fighter 2
Dead or Alive
Groove On Fight
Metal Slug w. RAM cart
Layer Section
Layer Section II
Dracula X: "Nocturne In The Moonlight"
Keio Yugekitai
Psychic Warlock Assassin Taromaru
KOF '95
KOF '96
Ultimate Destroyer BLAST WIND
Final Fight Revenge
SDF Macross: DYRL
Mobile Suit GUNDAM
Zeta GUNDAM
GUNDAM Gaiden 1-3
Toki Meki Memorial Taisen Pazuru Dama
Pocket Fighter
Burning Rangers
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Panzer Dragoon SAGA
Yoyuken Special (Strip Papers, Rock, Siscors)
Battle Garegga
Sukyo Guerentai
Batsu Gan
Radiant Silvergun
Shilouette Mirage
Dragon Force
Capcom Generations 1-5
Street Fighter Zero 2
Street Fighter Zero 3 (the best port IMO)
Steam Hearts


...that should get you started at least.

MERCENARY X99
 

Youkai

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My fave saturn games that I own:
> Dragon Force
> Albert Odyssey
> Guardian Heroes (I don't have the game but I borrowed it once)
> Mega Man 8 (borrowed one time)
> Mega Man X4 (borrowed)
> Resident Evil
> Lunar Magic School (JPN)
> Rockman X3 (JPN)
> Sexy Parodius (JPN)
> Sakura Wars 2 (JPN)
> Capcom D&D Collection (JPN)
> Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star (JPN) - played the first Yu Yu Hakusho on Super Famicom that's a half fighting game/comic book? This is just like that.
> Samurai Showdown RPG (JPN) - loads faster than the Neo Geo CD version.
 
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street fighter alpha/zero 1, 2 and 3 are amazing (especially the first one).

They say princess crown is brilliant too.

the thing about the Saturn - especially when it comes to imports, is that you have tons of little gems few people know about and are worth discovering personally.

a masterpiece of a system.
 

Predator

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Looks like a lot of arcade games, what makes the Saturn better than MAME when it comes to 2d gaming?
 

Syxx573

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Predator said:
Looks like a lot of arcade games, what makes the Saturn better than MAME when it comes to 2d gaming?

The awesome controller, and of course extra options on the games.
 

The BEAST3

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In my opinion the sega saturn is one of the best systems, I thought it was more powerful than PSone, but mnay game developers found it hard to make games on the saturn. That is why the saturn didn't last very long, what a shame, I still play the saturn:D
 
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Saturn is very worth getting into. I love my Saturn very much. It is a sort of demanding machine, necessary to buy many extras to make the experience complete. Light guns are necessary for Sega arcade shooter ports, RAM carts are necessary for games like KOF, the Saturn featured dual processors, twin Hitachi SH2 chips, parallax scrolling planes, multiple scrolling planes, unlimited (virtually) sprites on a line...

Unfortunately Saturn did not support such programming tricks as transparencies, but I'd say the Saturn could best the PSOne and N64 graphics-wise if the programmer were to take advantage of the Saturn hardware to the fullest. Sega offers some beautiful documentation about the machine, and it includes this kind of propaganda...

Saturn White Paper Documentation

There's endless talk about next-generation technology -- state-of-the-art microprocessors, polygon counts, texture mapping, etc.-- but most consumers aren't concerned about the technical marvels that lie "under the hood." Instead, their focus is on the experience of playing games on the system: Are the games fun? Close to the edge? Full of surprises? Realistic enough to make you forget that it's a creative illusion? To the person at the controls, the underlying technology is irrelevant unless it makes possible an exhilarating, one-of-a-kind gameplay experience.

and here's my favorite part...

There's been no shortage of hype about the "next generation" in video game systems. Almost a dozen manufacturers have hopped on the next-generation bandwagon and hope to capture the consumer's attention and a slice of his or her home-entertainment budget. Each vendor promises game systems that are faster and more capable than today's 16-bit video game devices -- with more dramatic special effects and greater realism and interactivity.

But where does the hype leave off and reality begin? What's it really going to take to dazzle consumers and make them eager for more? Sega will leave no room for debate by providing the ultimate gaming experience with Sega Saturn. Once consumers compare the next-generation game systems, Sega Saturn will prove the hands-down choice.

Lofty expectations? Oh hell yes. Expectations fulfilled? Uh, does this have to be answered? The Saturn is a powerful machine that deserved better treatment than it received from Sega and third-party game developers... if you look carefully however you can build up a terrific library of excellent games that will make you wonder what the hell went wrong to make the Saturn flop so hard on the market. It certainly shouldn't have been such a disaster, anyone who gives it a chance will be amazed by the games and what the Saturn is capable of producing.

A personal favorite of mine is Burning Rangers and Nights Into Dreams. I'd say you really need to see Burning Rangers first-hand, it pushes the Saturn to the limits for sure. Nights is a beautiful game, a masterpiece that embodies the spirit of the system, and creates a fantasy world worth visiting.
 

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Devils Child said:
I'd say you really need to see Burning Rangers first-hand, it pushes the Saturn to the limits for sure.

Yeah, will all that polygon clipping, sure is impressive (note sarcasm). Seriously, Burning Rangers looks like a beta build, not the finished product. The most impressive 3D game on Saturn is probably Croc, no shit. Or Panzer Dragoon 2/Saga.
 

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The most impressive 3D game on Saturn is probably Croc, no shit. Or Panzer Dragoon 2/Saga.

I'd give those honors to Dead or Alive. My goodness. Fucking sweet ass looking game. And the game didn't play half bad either!

As for Saturn it's my favorite system of all time and has a nice variety of games, ranging from all genres you can think of and it had so many games from the 80s-early 90s... then it had games from its own time period built from the ground up (duh) and then you got a little taste of the later 90s before it died out (Zero 3 and MSH vs. SF come to mind)

From Centipede to MERCS II to NBA Jam TE to Primal Rage to Alpha 3... the Saturn has it. And all sorts in-between as well.

And don't get me started on the imports. Elevator Action Returns, ThunderForce V, etc. Then you got the obscure-ish imports no one really knows about that are worth more than a look: Coin Puzzle Moujiya, Tetris S, etc.

GAWD DAMN. I'll keep and play this system for as long as I can... if it weren't for it I would not be into gaming still today...
 
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Devils Child

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Yeah, will all that polygon clipping, sure is impressive (note sarcasm). Seriously, Burning Rangers looks like a beta build, not the finished product. The most impressive 3D game on Saturn is probably Croc, no shit. Or Panzer Dragoon 2/Saga.

Maybe Burning Rangers isn't perfect, but it does push the Saturn to edges where it had not been forced into before. Panzer Dragoon is sweet, I love it, but I found Burning Rangers to be intensely interesting and equally challenging. It is by no means the best the Saturn has, but for what it is, and for what its worth, the game finally took everything the Saturn had under the hood and kicked it into high gear. I can respect that, and your opinion. I'm just one gamer, but I know I am not the only Burning Rangers fan...
 

Baseley09

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Devils Child said:
[B I'm just one gamer, but I know I am not the only Burning Rangers fan... [/B]

Too right, i got it day it came out here its the ownz, Burning Hearts = best theme song EVER!

I still havnt found everyone:o
 

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Gundam Sidestory 1, 2, 3 are a fantastic Gundam / Mech simulation.

They come in beautifully packaged digipacks too.

They're for the Japanese Saturn only, but they're all really cheap, and defnitely worth picking up if you can.
 

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Pick up the system for the shooters, oh baby!

My personal favorite is Battle Garegga, the jazzy AST on the Saturn version owns. Sexy Parodius is actually a quality game despite it being a Gradius parody, well worth a pick up too. As for Radiant Silvergun, an excellent and intense game, but I don't think the music is memorable enough.

If you want to play something completely japanese acid-tripped, try Arcade Gears: PuLiRuLa. Anybody else know what I'm talking about? Play it with friends!

I would avoid the Dracula X game though, the PSX version (Symphony of the Night) is superior in both 2d and 3d, and is in readable english. That is, unless you really want to play as Richter or that girl.

You can't go wrong though, the Saturn has as many or more great games than any system out there.
 

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Burning Rangers is a fucking awesome game.

Here are some great games for it:


Radiant Silvergun - end of fucking story.
Panzer Dragoon Series - awesome story, great GREAT music, awesome gameplay.
Vatlva - (i think thats how its spelled) its a really weird racing game, but its awesome.
Dodonpachi
Battle Garrega
Sokyuogurentai - awesome shooter
Pretty much any CPS2 Capcom Fighter
Any NeoGeo port (except SamShoIII of course)
Princess Crown
Rabbit - a weird but cool fighter.
Snatcher (JPN only)
Policenauts (JPN only, sequel to Snatcher)

and a million more I cant even think of right now because Im so tired.
 

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Here's a list of some good Saturn games (definitely not all of them though) I had posted on another board:



Games(non-shmups):
Platformers:
Bug!
Bug! Too
Clockwork Knight
Clockwork Knight 2
Astal
Rayman
Sonic Jam
Shinobi Legions
Scud (I like it... a lot of people don't)
Mega Man 8
Mega Man X3 (PAL or JP)
Mega Man X4
Metal Slug (JP)
Three Dirty Dwarves
Gex
Earthworm Jim 2
Mr. Bones (more like a bunch of mini-games though...)
Croc
Bubble Bobble
Pandemonium
Dracula X

FPS:
Powerslave
Duke Nukem 3D
Space Hulk
Alien Trilogy
Hexen
Doom
Quake

2D Fighters:
X-Men vs. Street Fighter(JP)
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter(JP)
Marvel Super Heroes
Street Fighter Collection
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Zero 3 (JP- RAM cart)
King of Fighters Best Collection (or KOF '95-'97)(JP)
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special Edition (or RBFF and RBFFSpecial)(JP)
Fatal Fury 3(JP)
Samurai Showdown Collection(JP)
Samurai Showdown 3(JP)
Samurai Showdown 4(JP)
Groove On Fight(JP)
Vampire Savior(JP)
World Heroes Perfect(JP)
Golden Axe: The Duel
Night Warriors
Primal Rage
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Mortal Kombat Trilogy

RPG/Strategy:
Albert's Odyssey
Dragon Force
Dragon Force 2 (JP)
Shining Force III (US)
Shining Force III Premium Pack (includes Shining Force III Scenarios 1-3)(JP)
Shining Wisdom
Shining the Holy Ark
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Lunar Silver Story Complete (JP)
Lunar Eternal Blue (JP)
Blazing Heroes/Mystaria
Riglord Saga 2 (JP)
Grandia (JP)
Black Matrix (JP)
Chaos Seed (JP)
Iron Storm
Genso Suikoden (JP)
Legend of Oasis
Dark Savior
Magic Knight Rayearth
Langrisser 3 (JP)
Langrisser 4 (JP)
Langrisser 5 (JP)
The Horde
Snatcher (JP)
Sakura Taisen (JP)
Sakura Taisen 2 (JP)
Sakura Taisen Hanagumi Tsushin (JP)
Samurai Showdown RPG (JP)
Tactics Ogre (JP)
Ogre Battle (JP)
Vandal Hearts (JP)
Devil Summoner (JP)
Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (JP)
Terra Phantastica (JP)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms

3D Fighters:
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter Remix
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Fighter Kids
Fighting Vipers
Fighters Megamix
Last Bronx
Dead or Alive

Light Gun:
Virtua Cop
Virtua Cop 2
Area 51
House of the Dead

Other:
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei
Gun Griffon (support twin sticks)
Virtual On (supports twin sticks)
NiGHTS
Christmas NiGHTS
Burning Rangers
Die Hard Trilogy
Die Hard Arcade
Bust-a-Move 2
Bust-a-Move 3
Enemy Zero
Ghen War
Guardian Heroes
Silhouette Mirage (JP)
Deep Fear (JP)
Robo Pit
Mass Destruction
Resident Evil
Saturn Bomberman
Stellar Assault (JP)
Sonic R (maybe... )
Scorcher (maybe...)
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo


Shmups:
Must Own:
Radiant Silvergun
Soukyugurentai (get S. Otokuyo if you don't have JP Saturn)
Battle Garegga
Game Tengoku (aka The Game Paradise)
Darius Gaiden (US)
Galactic Attack (US)
Thunder Force V
Thunder Force Gold Pack 1
Thunder Force Gold Pack 2
Dodonpachi
Cotton 2
Cotton Boomerang
Sexy Parodius
Gokujyo Parodius Da! Deluxe Pack
Detana Twinbee Yahho Deluxe Pack
Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus
Sengoku Blade
Hyper Duel
Batsugun
Kingdom Grandprix
Shienryu


Good to Have:
Twinkle Star Sprites
Gunbird
Strikers 1945
Strikers 1945 II
Sonic Wings Special
Donpachi (unless you have a PS1)
Layer Section II
kyukyoku Tiger 2 Plus
Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius
Blast Wind
Capcom Generation 1: 194X
Arcade Gears: Image Fight/X-Multiply
Arcade Gears: Gun Frontier
Arcade Gears: 3 Wonders
Guardian Force
Fantasy Zone
Gekirindan
Gradius Deluxe Pack
Metal Black
 

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I'm not going to name all the good titles, there are simply too many. Its a great system, especially if you are into 2D games. It has a couple of amazing RPG's, Dragon Force,PDSaga.

Aswell as other games like Sonic JAM, Kof 95-97,SF Zero 1-3, Gundam Sidestory 1-3. Allot of shooters and other fighters aswell as Bomberman Tournament.

Many of the games are low priced and high quallity. Its probably my favorite system after the NGPC :)
 
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