Sony Sucks!

Chimaera · Feb 15, 2004

I hate Sony with a passion. They won't approve Metal Slug 3, and probably won't approve SVC Chaos, and SS 5. How gay. It's like they got a grudge against 2D games or something. I for one prefer a good solid 2D game anyday over a eye-candy ass 3D game. You pay 50bucks for a 3D game with realistic graphics, beat it once, and never play it again. 2D games are different, they never get old. Sony is a threat to videogames. They don't care how good a game is, all they care about is how good it looks. I don't give a dam about graphics, gameplay is what matters. They have the least powerfull system, and about 100000000000000000000000000 shitty games. Even Nintendo has commented on this, saying that games are getting to "visually appealing" with no gameplay. I totally agree. Nothing beats a good 2D game with solid gameplay and beautifull handrawn sprites! The GameCube and XBOX are my favorite next-gen systems. SNK games would be better off though on the evil PS2, more players, more revenue...Sad but true. Woe the day, when the only system is a Playstation... :confused:

Some of my favorite games of all-time are:

Super Metroid
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Samurai Showdown II

..and Metal Slug is fastly becoming one of my favs!

No 3D game in my opinion can touch any of the games above! I don't care how good it looks.

2D GAMES FOR LIFE! :buttrock:

ajk1080 · Feb 15, 2004

Well,
Welcome to these forums my friend. You will find lots of peeps with similar views as you on the topic of Sony and its views on 2-d. You dont need a ps2 to play all those games, btw. Invest in a neo aes or mvs cab. So many AAA titles to own and play in 2-d greatness. Not only for gameplay, but for shear enjoyment. Plus, you will have the 100% authentic version of the game, not some inferior port.

Mushiki · Feb 15, 2004

Not completely Sony's fault, Metal Slug 3 and Snk vs Capcom: CHAOS were released for PlayStation2, but not in America, it's SCEA's fault.

GunstarHeroblack · Feb 15, 2004

Chimaera said:
I hate Sony with a passion. They won't approve Metal Slug 3, and probably won't approve SVC Chaos, and SS 5. How gay. It's like they got a grudge against 2D games or something. I for one prefer a good solid 2D game anyday over a eye-candy ass 3D game. You pay 50bucks for a 3D game with realistic graphics, beat it once, and never play it again. 2D games are different, they never get old. Sony is a threat to videogames. They don't care how good a game is, all they care about is how good it looks. I don't give a dam about graphics, gameplay is what matters. They have the least powerfull system, and about 100000000000000000000000000 shitty games. Even Nintendo has commented on this, saying that games are getting to "visually appealing" with no gameplay. I totally agree. Nothing beats a good 2D game with solid gameplay and beautifull handrawn sprites! The GameCube and XBOX are my favorite next-gen systems. SNK games would be better off though on the evil PS2, more players, more revenue...Sad but true. Woe the day, when the only system is a Playstation...

well- the sad reality of Video games these days eh? as the market for the Video gaming shifts I too know of a tonload of people raving about X-box this, and Halo that.......alot of these guys are newcomers to the world of Video Games and upon my asking if theyve heard of a system called the Neo Geo- they looked at me with Blank look- Man Do I feel old now- there arnt many old Schoolers like us around anymore it Seems...

anyways- about SONY SUCKS!---Welcome to the NEO FORUMS MAN. the amount of Time I had to wait for them to bring over MS3 and SVCchaos- wasnt worth it- I went out Immediately and got my SonyPs2 modded, picked up MS3, SVCC.......no way im gonna wait for them to get their ass in gear, Dude the realization I came to with Owning Sony one and Sega Saturn (got them modded as well)- Is that YOu gotta get right to the root and Go IMPORT, check it out they are still pulling out titles even for the dreamcast with the coming of another (from what Gossip ive heard) KOF for that system... :cool:

NGT · Feb 15, 2004

Screw the ps2 and their undeserving US fanboys

Seijuro Hiko · Feb 15, 2004

Yes, it's pathetic. Not that I buy US version of fighting game, but because of Sony there's number of 2D RPG that can't come out in USA (Tales of Destiny 2, Generation of Chaos serie and Growlanser serie, although Working Design will bring Growlanser Generation, they couldn't put Growlanser 1 into it, because it's a PSone game...). They simply hate 2D.

silverslug · Feb 15, 2004

Ps2 has a lot of good games like madden, ssx, and the GTA series. It also has one of the best control pads ever made.(easily in the top 3)
Yet SCEA is a bunch of retards, just look at their site. :crying:

But for the simple fact that their machines break all the time they are seeing a lot of hate nowadays, and ive met plenty of people that will not buy a PS3. Personally I have boycotted sony products and might buy a ps3 when its around the 150 dollar range and games are 20. Thats just the smart thing to do with my newly acquired mvs system. I have so many games to get I am not even going to worry about gta 4 and 5 on ps3 or xbox 2. The only way I would buy one of these systems right after launch is if the graphics are 30 times better than the x box out now. Fuck sony and scea, so many minutes wasted with trying to get blue disks, dvds, and even brand new unplayed games to work.

Vincere · Feb 15, 2004

Great, a topic for me!

I hate the 3D and this for time immemorial. I always found the gameplay of 3D games unprecise and really fucking unuseful... The amount of pixels are ugly and not even a 3D game can touch a 2D game.

Hey man, that's my opinion.

winter · Feb 15, 2004

Right after the PSone lauched in North America and they announced that the new Final Fantasy would be on Playstation, video games as I knew it were pretty much over.

I felt that there would never be another system video game system that allowed me to experience the joy and excitement I use to feel playing my SNES.

I was so WRONG. It took me 3 long years, but through perserverance I finally picked up a Neogeo CD.

My Xbox is SOLD, my PS2 is in my closet, and my DC is in my closet. I can't and won't go back.

Next, I plan on picking up an AES with MS5.

Don't spend 300 dollars are inferior and glitchy games when you can spend the same amount on truly unique and amazing games.

galfordo · Feb 15, 2004

Chimaera said:
I hate Sony with a passion. They won't approve Metal Slug 3, and probably won't approve SVC Chaos, and SS 5. How gay. It's like they got a grudge against 2D games or something. I for one prefer a good solid 2D game anyday over a eye-candy ass 3D game. You pay 50bucks for a 3D game with realistic graphics, beat it once, and never play it again. 2D games are different, they never get old. Sony is a threat to videogames. They don't care how good a game is, all they care about is how good it looks. I don't give a dam about graphics, gameplay is what matters. They have the least powerfull system, and about 100000000000000000000000000 shitty games. Even Nintendo has commented on this, saying that games are getting to "visually appealing" with no gameplay. I totally agree. Nothing beats a good 2D game with solid gameplay and beautifull handrawn sprites! The GameCube and XBOX are my favorite next-gen systems. SNK games would be better off though on the evil PS2, more players, more revenue...Sad but true. Woe the day, when the only system is a Playstation...

Some of my favorite games of all-time are:

Super Metroid
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Samurai Showdown II

..and Metal Slug is fastly becoming one of my favs!

No 3D game in my opinion can touch any of the games above! I don't care how good it looks.

2D GAMES FOR LIFE!

Welcome to the forums, fellow North Carolinian

!

I'm with you on the Sony thing - although I really want to play VF4 Evo.

They've got a long a colorful history of bashing 2-d games. This mess with MS3 and the others certainly wasn't the first time they pulled stunts like this.

They actually rejected some of the mega man x games because they weren't "cutting edge". Then when they saw how well they were doing on the Saturn , they quickly changed their attitude - just like the whores that they are. Just watch the mega man special on the show "icons" which comes on G4TV - it documents the whole thing.

Anyway, as I've stated before, I think they've got a bit of an inferiority complex about their console being the least powerful at the moment - and are probably scared that they'll lose market share if they appear to have "yesterday's" graphics.

Chimaera · Feb 15, 2004

I'm starting to like this place even more! :glee:

Spike23 · Feb 15, 2004

Chimaera said:
I hate Sony with a passion. They won't approve Metal Slug 3, and probably won't approve SVC Chaos, and SS 5. How gay. It's like they got a grudge against 2D games or something. I for one prefer a good solid 2D game anyday over a eye-candy ass 3D game. You pay 50bucks for a 3D game with realistic graphics, beat it once, and never play it again. 2D games are different, they never get old. Sony is a threat to videogames. They don't care how good a game is, all they care about is how good it looks. I don't give a dam about graphics, gameplay is what matters. They have the least powerfull system, and about 100000000000000000000000000 shitty games. Even Nintendo has commented on this, saying that games are getting to "visually appealing" with no gameplay. I totally agree. Nothing beats a good 2D game with solid gameplay and beautifull handrawn sprites! The GameCube and XBOX are my favorite next-gen systems. SNK games would be better off though on the evil PS2, more players, more revenue...Sad but true. Woe the day, when the only system is a Playstation...

Some of my favorite games of all-time are:

Super Metroid
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Samurai Showdown II

..and Metal Slug is fastly becoming one of my favs!

No 3D game in my opinion can touch any of the games above! I don't care how good it looks.

2D GAMES FOR LIFE!

ah, yet ANOTHER Sony hater.......simply because a Neo Geo game isn't ported over. :rolleyes:

it's amazing how many people were on Sony's nuts BEFORE that was announced. everyone was LOVING the fact that it was going to be coming out, everyong was preparing to pre-order, and everyone was talking it up like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread........then they got canned. so everyone turned on Sony. wow, i'm sure they just LOVE making games for the masses that proceed to call them names and treat them like shit.

they DID have those games......in Japan. as i've stated NUMEROUS times, if you want it that badly, BUY THE IMPORT and stop bitching about it. plain and simple.

they decided not to release them here because they would NOT have a strong enough customer-base for them. in Japan, they have proven to have just that. there is a demand for them in Japan, hence the supply they receive. there is virtually NO demand here in the US (aside from those of us who love Neo Geo and actually know what it is). they will not take a chance and put a game out here that more than likely going to bomb, sales-wise. they will, however, continue to put them out in Japan, where the ORIGINAL customer-base began for them.

Mike Shagohod · Feb 15, 2004

The PS2's got some TRIM games on it, but other than that yeah, I can't stand SONY at all. I'd like to shit bag (set a bag full of dog shit on fire and let someone stomp it out) their corporate office just to show them what I think of them... but then my TV is a SONY and it's still going strong 11 years after I bought it. It's a LOVE/HATE relationship I have with them. By SONY being a faggot here in the states however, it just gives more ammo to Billy Boy and his system.

MERCENARY X99

Chimaera · Feb 15, 2004

I've hated Sony WAY before the SNK issue on PS2!

Spike23 · Feb 15, 2004

Chimaera said:
I've hated Sony WAY before the SNK issue on PS2!

yet, you come in bashing Sony for not releasing those Neo Geo games.

yeah, it shows.

DREAMCAST FUCKING OWNS ALL (next to Neo Geo, of course).

JHendrix · Feb 15, 2004

Good lord some people are dumb.

Lets go through this one more time…

Sony does not hate 2D games. Please, do get off your stereotypes. Capcom vs. SNK 2 got put out on PS2 with no issues. Guilty Gear X and X2 were ported and released in the USA on PS2, both with no issues. Hell Bust-A-Move was a damned launch game for PS2, that’s 2D.

See Sony doesn’t have problems with 2D games, they just have to oh I don’t know…LOOK LIKE THEY CAME OUT IN THIS CENTURY! Maybe, I think that might be the case.

Chimaera · Feb 15, 2004

So your a Sony lover? LOL, thats funny, cuz you could blame the PS2 and SEGA's poor marketing strategy for the Deamcast failing.

winter · Feb 15, 2004

Ports suck, buy the orignal. *nuff said*

JHendrix · Feb 15, 2004

Chimaera said:
So your a Sony lover? LOL, thats funny, cuz you could blame the PS2 and SEGA's poor marketing strategy for the Deamcast failing.

What? Care to make some sense here?

Yeah I like Sony, I have a PS2. Along with an Xbox and GC, some GBA’s and a DC. I wouldn’t give up a single one of those consoles, as I have too many good games for each.

But where did I come off as a Sony lover? I just pointed out some glaringly obvious holes in your logic. Sony doesn’t hate 2D in the slightest. They just hate old (read: crappy) looking 2D. See, if Sony had this undying hatred of 2D as you claim, then they wouldn’t have CvS2, GGX, GGX2, Super Bust-A-Move 1 and 2 on PS2. But they do, and those companies probably didn’t have many problems getting their games published.

Why do think that’s the case? Come on, I think you can answer it.

And BTW, you’re right you could blame Sony’s PS2 and Sega’s poor marketing strategy for the DC failing. Whoopty frickin do! What’s your point?

Chimaera · Feb 15, 2004

That post was directed to Spike23...

and since when does Metal Slug 3 look like a crappy 2D game from the 80's?

syringe · Feb 15, 2004

It's annoying that sony is giving SNK such a hard time about SVC and Metal Slug 3. But it's possible that they're really jjust looking at the piracy issue and figure that with both games easily downloadable and emulated it's not worth the investment in disks,store space, and promotion? Which is why it's *really* important for SNKP to figure out a protection scheme for the MVS/AES that actually lasts for more than 15 minutes or to jump platforms so the games arent illicitly available online 6 months before console ports hit the store shelves.

That said if Sony is taking a pure anti-2d stance thats completely inexcusable with all the purile crap and 3d pong/boardgame remakes that end up on their system.

Given that even I would have a hard time greenlighting the SSV port. Which is such a huge step backwards given the 7 years it took to release, and the quality set by SNK's other sword series "Last Blade 1/2", it's almost sad.

Although I'm definitely glad Snk Vs Capcom and Metal Slug 3 are making it to the US through the XBOX with an XBLIVE capabilities. :drool:

Reality Check · Feb 15, 2004

I feel out of place cuz I'm a Sony fan. I don't think Sony has a problem with 2D games. I think why MS3 wasn't approved was because it didn't neturalize the hardware of the PS2 and the reasons Spike23 mention. 2D games like Capcom vs SNK, Guilty Gear, King of Fighter 2000/2001 and Bust-a-Move neturalize the PS2 hardware. MS3 didn't so it didn't get approved. About SSV, SNKP is tweaking the game so the SCEA will approve it.

evil wasabi · Feb 15, 2004

Reality Check said:
I feel out of place cuz I'm a Sony fan. I don't think Sony has a problem with 2D games. I think why MS3 wasn't approved was because it didn't neturalize the hardware of the PS2 and the reasons Spike23 mention. 2D games like Capcom vs SNK, Guilty Gear, King of Fighter 2000/2001 and Bust-a-Move neturalize the PS2 hardware. MS3 didn't so it didn't get approved. About SSV, SNKP is tweaking the game so the SCEA will approve it.

neturalize

Since you made the above word up care to give it a definition?

syringe · Feb 15, 2004

Reality Check said:
I feel out of place cuz I'm a Sony fan. I don't think Sony has a problem with 2D games. I think why MS3 wasn't approved was because it didn't neturalize the hardware of the PS2 and the reasons Spike23 mention. 2D games like Capcom vs SNK, Guilty Gear, King of Fighter 2000/2001 and Bust-a-Move neturalize the PS2 hardware. MS3 didn't so it didn't get approved. About SSV, SNKP is tweaking the game so the SCEA will approve it.

Tthe word is UTILIZE not "neturalize", please learn something close to a usable form of the english language.

SonGohan · Feb 15, 2004

Yeah, it's pretty much BS that SCEA isn't releasing it here. There's always the Xbox ports, right?

Somebody once had in their sig "2d is art, 3d is science." I agree too, and I love a lot of 3d games as well.

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