Beware of Kim_Kaphwan (Will Collins); Self-Admitted SCAMMER!

[Kpj]

Will,

You've obviously handled our transaction like a child, so I am making this post in order to protect others from your rotten sales.

FACTS: I purchased a Neo AES System off of Kim_Kaphwan (Will Collins) back in October of 2003. He had posted this set for sale in the selling forums. When it arrived, the system shell had a massive crack down the center (thru the NG logo).


http://home.wideopenwest.com/~mdperry48/images/brokenaes.jpg

This was NOT brought to my attention prior to purchasing, NOR was it listed in his selling thread. This isn't a small blemish either. As one can see from the picture above, this is a major eye sore. I contacted him immediately, stating the condition of the casing. This is what he had to say:

"hey man, sorry for not telling you, it's my fault man; and i don't really know what to tell ya, i bought it like that from nbm and he told me what i was getting into, but i didn't mind, now i've passed on something to someone else and i didn't take the time to say a word. i realize you're prolly pissed off, and i can't blame you for that, but i don't really know what to say, i sold it for cheap because of the crack in the casing, and you jumped on it, and i just got caught up in it, and well yeah; there's not much else to say here, if you want to keep it, and work with what you have fine, and if you want to try and go for a refund fine as well, though a refund will prolly take a lot longer as i just blew $75 of the cash i got from you on some new harmonicas and another like $30 on shipping all the packages i had to send. i'll see what i can phenagle if you want to trade back, and if you decide to keep it, it'd be a real burden off both our shoulders. if you want i can hunt you down another system case, and i'll pay for it for you and all, just let me know what you want to do."

I was MORE than understanding in this situation. I was not mad/angry with Will. All I asked is that he replace the top shell or send me a small reimbursement in order to compensate for the damaged casing.

During this 3+ month duration, I would email him every so often to find out if he had found a replacement shell. Time & time again, he assured me that a shell was on it's way.

Fast forward to the present. I am still waiting for a shell/reimbursement. KK has ignored my emails concerning this issue. And now it has turned ugly, as one can see from his current "sales" thread. He is now trying to side-step the topic at hand by attacking me. It's not working Will. I've done NO wrong but put up with your LIES & PROCRASTINATION.

He's even admitting to screwing me over! Would you trust a seller that says this?:

"i'm glad you got fucked in our deal"

I am making this post for the protection of others. If you don't mind getting LIED too, SCAMMED, & given the RUNAROUND; by all means, conduct business with this clown. If you are looking for an honest/trustworthy trader, stear clear of his shady practices. He makes promises he can't keep.

[Frame Gride 2]

Looks like someone titty fucked it to death :eek:

[Mushiki]

IPPON!

[Kim _Kaphwan]

nice one man! :buttrock:
keep on rolling.

[LWK]

Looks like my cock had its way with that system.

[kc]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy



http://home.wideopenwest.com/~mdperry48/images/brokenaes.jpg

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may i ask how much you paid fo that shit?

[Kpj]

$190

He had a good price on the set, but that doesn't give him the right to withhold the info concerning the crack, procrastinate with sending me a replacement shell/reimbursement & attack me for his mess-up/immaturity.

I'll glady cancel my vendetta if Will honors what he promised me

[Soilwork]

http://snkguitarist.com/funny/brokenaes1.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist

haha I even got the name wrong

:buttrock:

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
http://snkguitarist.com/funny/brokenaes1.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist

haha I even got the name wrong

:buttrock:

:smirk:

At least you could have spelled my name correctly :)

[kc]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
$190

He had a good price on the set, but that doesn't give him the right to withhold the info concerning the crack, procrastinate with sending me a replacement shell/reimbursement & attack me for his mess-up/immaturity.

I'll glady cancel my vendetta if Will honors what he promised me

:shame: kim:shame:

and as for gohan, your a classic act man, nice job

[Kpj]

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan
oh there's nipple licking, but you gotta do something cool to get on the island, like scam kenny boy nobody cares about him anyways.

Another admittance of his scamming ways quoted by the POS himself!

[SNKJorge]

Kenny, sell me you EURO Kizuna and I will take care of
Will aka Kim for you, whatever his stupid ass name is...

I'll take a pic of me headlocking his ass just for fun
and proof, what cha think?

[Kim _Kaphwan]

man i tell you, when i punched that thing i went straight through the shelf it was on too. turns out i have a good left hook. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Mushiki]

I can even feel respect and confidence crumbling down...

[Soilwork]

On a side note, that's a shitty looking home system. Does it still play perfectly?

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan
man i tell you, when i punched that thing i went straight through the shelf it was on too. turns out i have a good left hook. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You know, I sometimes think your online romance with
md really fucked you up. Good thing though, you're just
a measly cuban coño :tickled: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[chavo4]

You want to trade left hooks with me. I will knock the f*&*(^ out of you in 5 seconds. F*&^% scammer. Give Kenny his money back.
Fuc*(@# child!!!!
:very_ang:

[Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x
I'll take a pic of me headlocking his ass just for fun
and proof, what cha think?

dion?

[Mushiki]

My god...

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
On a side note, that's a shitty looking home system. Does it still play perfectly?

I removed the motherboard from this case long ago; but yes, the system worked upon arrival.

[Kim _Kaphwan]

this thread is hillarious...i love teh drama!

[SHO]

this is turning ugly :oh_no:

[Soilwork]

So if it's only a problem with the case, he was supposed to send you a new one? Is there any other place to get a new case without buying a whole new system? If I were KK I would've just taken it back instead of being out more money to find a replacement. Doesn't look like he's willing to work it out though.

[KOF_FANATIK]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x
You know, I sometimes think your online romance with
md really fucked you up. Good thing though, you're just
a measly cuban coño :tickled: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn jorge i am half cuban :mad: jk;)
Anyways Kim man why would you be proud of something like that?

Scamming is wrong man, and being proud of it is just not cool at all.

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan
this thread is hillarious...i love teh drama!

This is really nothing compared to the drama between you
and MD... I mean that was fucking ridiculous, it really made you
look like a fucking cry baby.

$190 obviously is nothing to care for, you are a fucking
bum anyway. Just the fact that you tricked Kenny makes
you look very low. Idiot.

[Kim _Kaphwan]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x
This is really nothing compared to the drama between you
and MD... I mean that was fucking ridiculous, it really made you
look like a fucking cry baby.

$190 obviously is nothing to care for, you are a fucking
bum anyway. Just the fact that you tricked Kenny makes
you look very low. Idiot.
say what you want man, i know i'm a bum, and it doesn't affect me either way, the fact is that i still have buyers when i need them. and there's the fact that i have had good deals with several members here, on gametz, and ebay, and one bad deal out of them all. and it's no skin off of my back at all.

[chavo4]

He's a fucking rat :tickled:

[Kim _Kaphwan]

Originally posted by chavo4
He's a fucking rat :tickled:
heh rat, right, i like it. BOBAK, BIO, RYO GEO I WANT THAT FOR MY CUSTOM RANK!!!

[chavo4]

The bottom line is that you scammed Kenny and that makes you a fucking rat. :tickled:

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by chavo4
The bottom line is that you scammed Kenny and that makes you a fucking rat. :tickled:

Una pinche RATA Maldita :tickled: :lol:

[Spike23]

hey, Kim......go fuck your mom (i just did). that's the worst looking item i've EVER seen sold that someone "accidentally" forgot to mention. it's funny to see you acting like a complete fucking moron here.

and YOU buying HARMONICAS?! that's the funniest shit in this entire thread. you don't want to give the money back because YES, you already blew it on the crack you're smoking. you're a disgrace to EVERY seller. i think i'd take my chances buying from Japhei's sorry ass before i'd ever think of buying from you---and i'd NEVER buy from that fucker, which speaks volumes.

sorry you got scammed, Kenny. to me, it looks like a fucking chainsaw went through it--it's been cut. maybe little Kimmy just couldn't beat a game and decided to blame the system. it's never the system.....it's the idiot holding the controller.

now give him some cash so he can replace the cover. you owe him that much, you piece of shit. and if you don't cough up what you owe, it will come back to kick your ass later. you know that whole "what goes up, must come down" thing? well, same thing applies here--when you fuck someone over, chances are you'll get fucked over too someday.

and i think i speak for most everyone when i say......FUCK YOU, KIM (or whatever the fuck your name is). eat shit and die.

[chavo4]

He's a faggot with his HARMONICAS. :tickled:

[SNKJorge]

We're going to send you back with papi Fidel.

[chavo4]

He's a fucking Castro lover. No wonder. :tickled:

[Kim _Kaphwan]

can you feel the love tonight?
http://www.lookalikesbychar.com/photos/elton.jpeg

[chavo4]

Go eat some platanos (bananas):tickled:

[SNKJorge]

Kim is going to end here just like Batista did in Cuba,
remember my words.

[chavo4]

I'll send his ass on a banana boat :tickled: que no

[SNKJorge]

Originally posted by chavo4
I'll send his ass on a banana boat :tickled: que no :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kim _Kaphwan]

Originally posted by xtoo_short20x
Kim is going to end here just like Batista did in Cuba,
remember my words.
quoted for remembrance, altzheimers runs in my family.

[Neo Maikeru]

He discovered that nobody likes him on the forums so he decided to go out with a bang, Congrats Kim, you will now be remembered with the likes of Japhei. I hope you feel good about yourself now.

[Hyo]

I probably shouldn't flame someone who I haven't ever talked to, but Kim_Kaphwan... You are the worst bitch I've ever seen. Sorry to be the one who breaks it to ya'.

How, in the name of Buddah, could ANYONE slip that "little detail" when making a DEAL? Not only it's dishonest and immoral... but it's stupid. I know that I wouldn't blow up my OWN good name for $190.-... That's pathetic...

Although I have to admit... Kenny Boy, didn't you ask for pictures of the product before making this deal? Did he refuse to send you these pictures? Did he make up any excuse whatsoever?
Anyway, you shouldn't have signed up for a deal with a complete stranger without even looking at the goods... Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side.

Kim_Kaphwan, do something useful and drop dead.

[Kid Aphex]

funny how kim has devoted countless posts on the island to gather an insurgence of hate towards KPJ before this all came out in the open...obviously in hopes of cushioning the blow to his own online persona. lots of people DID jump on the hate bandwagon for kicks.

i never said a word.

why?

cause i've dealt with kenny before, and he a great guy.

and kim? he's an unstable, dirty little prick who used to openly steal from funcoland.

the kids a 10 year old. for all his pathetic attempts at sounding aged and well versed in everything by quoting dead black musicians, clumsily putting together hackneyed and lacking poetry, and claiming to be well-read....he's ultimately a 10 year old.

totally immature and a waste of time.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by Hyo
I probably shouldn't flame someone who I haven't ever talked to, but Kim_Kaphwan... You are the worst bitch I've ever seen. Sorry to be the one who breaks it to ya'.

How, in the name of Buddah, could ANYONE slip that "little detail" when making a DEAL? Not only it's dishonest and immoral... but it's stupid. I know that I wouldn't blow up my OWN good name for $190.-... That's pathetic...

Although I have to admit... Kenny Boy, didn't you ask for pictures of the product before making this deal? Did he refuse to send you these pictures? Did he make up any excuse whatsoever?
Anyway, you shouldn't have signed up for a deal with a complete stranger without even looking at the goods... Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side.

Kim_Kaphwan, do something useful and drop dead.

Hyo,

I don't remember if I asked for pictures. Most of the time, these kinds of blemishes are disclosed when items are put up for sale.

Regardless, I contacted him upon arrival of the parcel (which he agreed to replace). He is simply a two-faced liar/scammer.

[Hyo]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
Hyo,

I don't remember if I asked for pictures. Most of the time, these kinds of blemishes are disclosed when items are put up for sale.

Regardless, I contacted him upon arrival of the parcel (which he agreed to replace). He is simply a two-faced liar/scammer.

I understand that, Kenny Boy... but still, you have to understand that you SHOULD have.
But what's done it's done, right? Next time, be more careful... Although things like this... you hardly ever see them coming. :rolleyes:

[evo7_31]

How in the world did that happen to the shell?

And, how in the world could you NOT mention it when trying to sell it?

It's like selling a car with only 2 doors left??

[RAINBOW PONY]

omg funniest shit ever

it looks like someone took any AXE to the fucking case, man you shoulda got pics, but he is a fucking douche for not saying anything, did he actually fucking believe you'd get it and not care? lol total lack of fucking respect. KK you shithead.

[chavo4]

It looks like Kim's cracked ass:tickled:

[ResO]

Originally posted by Hyo
I understand that, Kenny Boy... but still, you have to understand that you SHOULD have.
But what's done it's done, right? Next time, be more careful... Although things like this... you hardly ever see them coming. :rolleyes:


This whole ordeal seams really fucked up. It's not Kenny's responsibility to ask for pictures of an item to make sure it's not destroyed. Kim_Kaphwon, what the hell is wrong with you? You obviously understand that you ripped someone off, so just make it right. I read your thread in the selling section, and you don't even come close to describing the destroyed case. I didn't jump in the bandwagon and make fun of that shit with you and mistress Dragon because it wasn't any of my business. But scamming an honest person who's worlds more respectable than yourself, then it makes it my business. I could throw random curses at you, and you could do the same back, but that obviously won't change anything. I understand you being angry about people making fun of a girl you like, but punishing someone unrelated to the event is just plain wrong. What goes around, comes around.

[Soilwork]

I have a Riding Hero cart that looks kinda like that home system..

[Nash]

Originally posted by evo7_31
It's like selling a car with only 2 doors left??

not if the car only had two doors to begin with. :D

[Mushiki]

Originally posted by ResOGlas
What goes around, comes around.

The Subjective Imperative.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan
say what you want man, i know i'm a bum, and it doesn't affect me either way, the fact is that i still have buyers when i need them. and there's the fact that i have had good deals with several members here, on gametz, and ebay, and one bad deal out of them all. and it's no skin off of my back at all.

Well, you have at least lost this potential buyer coz of your shitty attitude and scams.

[leGionellz]

Wow.. scamming has taken a whole new level. :oh_no:

Kim, I hope you get banned from these forums, you can't obviously even handle a very dumb and clueless girl on a forum, let alone deal with adult people.... Take your responsibility and sell your fucking harmonica already, send Kenny his money back and leave in shame. Little boy.

And oh yeah.. I'd suggest you get some education from your parents about real life before you enter it next time.

[Soilwork]

Name has been fixed.

[Spike23]

Originally posted by leGionellz
Wow.. scamming has taken a whole new level. :oh_no:

Kim, I hope you get banned from these forums, you can't obviously even handle a very dumb and clueless girl on a forum, let alone deal with adult people.... Take your responsibility and sell your fucking harmonica already, send Kenny his money back and leave in shame. Little boy.

And oh yeah.. I'd suggest you get some education from your parents about real life before you enter it next time.

well said. only problem is, this little bitch thinks this INTERNET shit IS REAL LIFE.

probably because his parents were too fucking stupid to make their "accident" read books or interact with REAL people. i hope other people get fucked over by him (only those dumb enough to still buy from him)--it's the ONLY way they'll learn. and if you keep supporting him, encouraging him, or even buying from him, then you aren't helping matters. he'll continue to do it. why do some still support him? it's not like they get cuts of the cash? they get shit. they're all sheep......the blind leading the blind.

[Neo Maikeru]

Damn, 190 for that system in crappy condition. I sold you my old NGH system for around 280 I believe but it was in alot better condition and came with some stuff. I dont think it is such a good deal even w/o the crack. But thats not the point, Kim scammed you. Sorry man.

[Amano Jacu]

http://home.wideopenwest.com/~mdperry48/images/brokenaes.jpg

OMFG, that AES has been OWNED :eek_2:

Now seriously Kim, if you've got any honor left please refund Kenny. :shame:

[Mushiki]

That should partially return him his honor... other than that... there is only one way to die with honor.

[Spike23]

there is no regaining ANY "honor" when he sold a bullshit system, fucked someone over, started a new selling thread calling everyone retards, and demanded money for his shit.

the ONLY honor left with any of this, is the honor to ban this bitch for life from this site.

[BaaL]

Does anyone know what Kim_K's ebay name is? I would sure hate to stumble ass backwards into a deal with this guy.

On a related note, is there any sort of list or sticky thread that contains the names of unreputable sellers? Being new here it would be nice to have a list of all the shady members to reference...

[Infamous Lunchbox]

Yeah I am with Baal (nice name btw, very... biblical..) any lists? Oh and I have a idea about dealing with KK. Email his home address and email address to everyone who requests it. That way we can all spam him at home and online. And if anyone lives near him they can drive over and kick him in the throat to teach him a lesson! Good idea no?

[JHendrix]

WTF? Give the man a refund ASAP. :oh_no:

[60Bucks]

Fucking punk ass 10 year old scammer needs a beating but maybe in his case a spanking from his punk ass mama for teaching him such good fucking morals.

Never will i deal with this scum even if he does the right thing and refunds the cash in full.

[Average Joe]

I TOO HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BY MR. KAPHWAN!

HE SOLD ME THIS XR2 AS NEW! BUT WHEN IT WAS SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE I NOTICED A SMALL PROBLEM WITH IT...

http://myweb.thump.net/641094/fucktards/grrr.jpg

UPON CONTACTING MR. KAPHWAN HE SIMPLY TOLD ME TO "GO FUCK YOUR DEAD GRANDMOTHERS EYESOCKETS!" THAT MADE ME GASP! BECAUSE MY GRANDMOTHER WAS BORN WITHOUT EYESOCKETS AND SHE'S VERY SENSITIVE (WHEN SHE WAS ALIVE THAT IS) ABOUT IT! NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS MAD :mad: GRRR!!! I SCREAMED! I DEMAND RETRIBUTION FOR MY GRANDMAS HONOR AND THE XR2!

YOUR TIME IS COMING KIM! YOUR TIME IS COMING SOON! THIS_I_SWEAR!!!!1!!111!!11!!!!11!!!1!!69!!!!

[Soilwork]

LOL.

[Tehcno]

I can't belive this shit. Thats almost as bad as trying to sell a car in the newspaper and not mentioning that the trunk has been smashed all the way to the front.

[Spike Spiegel]

I can't believe he's sitting here laughing about it. I will never deal with KK, obviously. Man, how a long standing member can just turn to pure shit out of the blue. I'm shocked.

Spike

[slerch666]

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan
say what you want man, i know i'm a bum, and it doesn't affect me either way, the fact is that i still have buyers when i need them. and there's the fact that i have had good deals with several members here, on gametz, and ebay, and one bad deal out of them all. and it's no skin off of my back at all.
I never had a problem with you before, but after reading a reply like this, where you obviously don't give a fuck about how you treated someone else on the other end of a deal, I think you are totally cunt faced rat fuck douche drinking dog fucking anal flare motherfucker.

Who cares that you spent the guys money on your skin flutes? Who cares that you spent his money on shipping? He sent you $190 and you had a responsbility as a seller to make good on the deal. Had you not fucking lied about the system in the first place, I'm sure someone would have bought the system. If that was $190 for a system without mods, it was OVER paid for, as you can find Neo's all the time on eBay for $200-$250 unmodded. For a broken case I'd have given you $150 shipped.

Why don't you refund him the price of a case? I don't know what they go for, but if you ever plan to sell anything here again, you'd best make right with this deal. Otherwise you'll likely never sell another item here.

[FeelGood]

This is moved to the warroom.

Because Kenny got a cheap neo off Kim, and a good deal. I'm not quite sympathetic to the fact he can't gouge the price off it to some poor shmuck.

[Liquid Snake]

I just can't believe I'm reading this shit...............
Kim, first you have an attitude problem; and second, refund KENNY ASAP!!!!!:oh_no: :oh_no:

[FeelGood]

You're all fucking idiots.

Kenny got (from Kim)
a homecart system with all the hookups, a modded DC stick, and kof97

all for $180.

$35? What? Is Kenny Boy a fucking bum that he gets his thong in a twist over $35?

Fucking idiots.

Kim should treat Kenny exactly as he did. Like a little pussy kid with a turnip up his ass.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
This is moved to the warroom.

Because Kenny got a cheap neo off Kim, and a good deal. I'm not quite sympathetic to the fact he can't gouge the price off it to some poor shmuck.

Charlie,

This has nothing to do with me turning around & modding the system for profit. This has to do with lying, withholding information & making promises Will can't keep.

Moving this to the war room was a stupid move. This should be in the selling forum as a STICKY to warn everyone of KK's dishonest practices.

This post was created over principal, not $$$

Kpj

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
This post was created over principal, not $$$

Kpj

If Kim offered to give you a complete refund, would you take him up on it and send everything back? Please don't respond with "no, because I know he'll try and cheat me out of that too." It's a legitimate question.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
You're all fucking idiots.

Kenny got (from Kim)
a homecart system with all the hookups, a modded DC stick, and kof97

all for $180.

$35? What? Is Kenny Boy a fucking bum that he gets his thong in a twist over $35?

Fucking idiots.

Kim should treat Kenny exactly as he did. Like a little pussy kid with a turnip up his ass.

Charlie,

Your as bad as Kiim. I am shocked that your acting this way. I did NOT make this post over money. I assumed I wouldn't get it back anyways. This is a matter of principal. He has the opportunity to rip OTHER people off. Are you not aware of this?

[Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
You're all fucking idiots.

Completely agreed.

All you idiots talking shit in this thread need to just shut the fuck up and stick to your own business.

[Average Joe]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
He has the opportunity to rip OTHER people off. Are you not aware of this?

True.

But he wouldn't.

[FeelGood]

As I understand, you got more than a home system. A working homesystem with a crap shell, a game, and a modded stick for $180 is not being scammed.

Moreover, there are a couple idiots in this thread who you can blame for getting it moved to the warroom: Chavo4, and too_short.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
If Kim offered to give you a complete refund, would you take him up on it and send everything back? Please don't respond with "no, because I know he'll try and cheat me out of that too." It's a legitimate question.

It's been over 3 months. I've already given the stick away & replaced the KOF97 with a faulty one I sold off awhile ago.

But yes, I would give back all his stuff for a refund. All I asked him for was a different top shell; that's it! The problem here is that he PROMISED it long ago & is now going back on his word.

I don't care about the $$$ amount. I wanted a new top shell which is quite fair.

[FeelGood]

$35 for a system shell. LOL. Where does one buy a system shell for $35.

That was the basis for your demand of a partial refund.

Let's see,
You could sell the 3 items you got on ebay and break even. Why not do that and get it out of your system. Or is breaking even never good enough?

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
As I understand, you got more than a home system. A working homesystem with a crap shell, a game, and a modded stick for $180 is not being scammed.

Moreover, there are a couple idiots in this thread who you can blame for getting it moved to the warroom: Chavo4, and too_short.

EW,

Not sure how you became a mod, you are being VERY narrow-minded about this.

I have admitted that he offered a good price on the set (look on the first or second page of this thread)

He did NOT mention this blemish in his selling post, nor did he mention it to me when we were finalizing the deal. It only came up when this system arrived to my doorstep.

I made this post since he PROMISED to replace the shell with another OR send me a $35 reimbursement (in order for me to buy another case) BUT he went back on his word & is calling me out.

Who is wrong here?

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
It's been over 3 months. I've already given the stick away & replaced the KOF97 with a faulty one I sold off awhile ago.

But yes, I would give back all his stuff for a refund. All I asked him for was a different top shell; that's it! The problem here is that he PROMISED it long ago & is now going back on his word.

I don't care about the $$$ amount. I wanted a new top shell which is quite fair.

You kidding me? You'd give it back?

$100 for a KOF 97

$50 for a DC stick (unmodded at that)

and you paid $30 for the home system?

So basically you're asking for $5 to take that system off of Will's hands. You're a pretty generous guy.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
$35 for a system shell. LOL. Where does one buy a system shell for $35.

That was the basis for your demand of a partial refund.

Let's see,
You could sell the 3 items you got on ebay and break even. Why not do that and get it out of your system. Or is breaking even never good enough?

I've bought other shells/non-working systems for $30 to $40 before.

This has nothing to do with me "making money" or "breaking even". Your side-stepping the problem at hand, just as KK did.

How would you feel if I sold you a game at a great price only to find out the shell was shattered & I knew about it all along? I don't think you would be very happier either.

Your a hypocrit, as always :)

[Spike Spiegel]

Well, he got a good deal still, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have posted about the shell. That's not right. Not my business, but that's a pretty big "oh by the way" that should have come up. Great price on all of that, so you should have known SOMETHING was up

Spike

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
EW,

Not sure how you became a mod, you are being VERY narrow-minded about this.

I have admitted that he offered a good price on the set (look on the first or second page of this thread)

He did NOT mention this blemish in his selling post, nor did he mention it to me when we were finalizing the deal. It only came up when this system arrived to my doorstep.

I made this post since he PROMISED to replace the shell with another OR send me a $35 reimbursement (in order for me to buy another case) BUT he went back on his word & is calling me out.

Who is wrong here?

How much would you have sold the same package for?

I mean, so some idiots here, they might think you'd be cool and sell it cheap, but you have never been good with prices. You aer the gouge-master and your only benefit to the scene is that you make people laugh with your fruity consolized MVSs and the ugly coffee table neo.

Seriously dude, the principle here is that you're crying over not being able to resell so easily. You obviously had no problem selling KoF 97 and the modded stick. Together, those probably fetched you the same amount you paid for the whole package in the first place.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
Well, he got a good deal still, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have posted about the shell. That's not right. Not my business, but that's a pretty big "oh by the way" that should have come up. Great price on all of that, so you should have known SOMETHING was up

Spike

Reading Kim's responses here, you'd think he's being really whimsical. Why? He hasn't offered a serious response to this.

Everyone has only really heard it from Kenny. But when I spoke to Kim about this, I was under the impression that Kenny were aware there was cosmetic damage to the system, just not that bad.

[JHendrix]

Wow the plot thickens, I thought the $190 was just for the system itself.

I mean yeah when you pay that little for a home system you know something is obviously wrong with it, but this is a little extreme.

Kenny is right about how

1.) Kim should have listed that it has such a crack and
2.) Kim offered a refund/replacement/fix and never delivered. If the fix/replacement wasn't offered originally Kenny might have asked for a full refund.

I'm real surprized at this reaction though, how is this different than when EW went off and wouldn't buy from some AES seller because he didn't say that his carts were sunfaded or something.

[LWK]

It should have been mentioned.
Just take the beating and get over it, cause its obvious Kim is not going to refund you.
Fact is, for one reason or another, this guy seriously hates you.
I do think its wrong for him to just not give a shit. I would not allow this from anyone.
Will should refund you what he promised.
It wouldnt matter if Kenny charged ten grand for the unit, the issue here is a broken promise. I got nothing against Kim, and I hoped that things would work out.

Kenny:
You also gotta remember you charge way more then anyone else on this site. This is the reason alot of people arent backing you.
Most communities are give-and-take by nature. You help the site, the site helps you. Its all about contribution in the neo geo scene. From reviews to faq's to selling games, anything that helps people here to get what they need. I believe in the two fold process, take some good, give some good.
The price guide is a mess. The reality of prices are alot of these cheaper games on ebay sold by JP sellers.
Thats one thing we need to look at. Shit isnt worth what it used to be.
If you look at NBM hes all for the fans, he sells stuff and should be a model for others. I've dealt with him a decent number of times.

I like Simone, I like his information, sometimes his attitude can be over the top concerning stuff, but he keeps inline with certain issues.

Kenny my advice would be to sell the whole package to someone else for the same price you got it, take no loss or gain and let it go.
There is no reason to waste time wanting the money, as you will not get it. A smart business man knows when to not waste time. 35$ is next to nothing, hiring a lawyer would make you take a loss to get back such a small claim.
It would also benefit the community if you dropped your prices.
This is not meant to offend, just trying to pass on what I believe to be healthy word.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
How much would you have sold the same package for?

I mean, so some idiots here, they might think you'd be cool and sell it cheap, but you have never been good with prices. You aer the gouge-master and your only benefit to the scene is that you make people laugh with your fruity consolized MVSs and the ugly coffee table neo.

Seriously dude, the principle here is that you're crying over not being able to resell so easily. You obviously had no problem selling KoF 97 and the modded stick. Together, those probably fetched you the same amount you paid for the whole package in the first place.

I am fine with prices. Most of my items sell on ebay without reserves. I do NOT set prices & this has NOTHING to do with my end of the transaction. You may think your smart by attempting to turn the tables, but it's not working :)

This has NOTHING to do with me trying to sell my stuff easier. I made a reply to Will's "my fuck the neo sale" asking where he is since I've emailed him numerous times trying to work out this transaction.

Your opinions of my mods are just that, opinions. This is a FACT-based thread to expose a scammer & liar. If you wish to discuss my "gay" modifications, start a different thread.

Stop de-railing this thread in order to spam me on a different subject. God, I still can't believe your a mod.....:tickled:

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Wow the plot thickens, I thought the $190 was just for the system itself.

I mean yeah when you pay that little for a home system you know something is obviously wrong with it, but this is a little extreme.

Kenny is right about how

1.) Kim should have listed that it has such a crack and
2.) Kim offered a refund/replacement/fix and never delivered. If the fix/replacement wasn't offered originally Kenny might have asked for a full refund.

I'm real surprized at this reaction though, how is this different than when EW went off and wouldn't buy from some AES seller because he didn't say that his carts were sunfaded or something.

The point is, you only know/knew Kenny's story.

Next time you see Kim on Kailerra, why don't you ask him direct, instead of relying totally on Kenny's version. One guy is your friend, and one guy only cares about your money. Hard fucking decision.

[Soilwork]

I'll buy that system off of you for $50. Would you be up for that deal?

[BIG BEAR]

Did'nt really want to intervene here but this thread is getting side tracked. What we need to do is remove the $$$ factor and personal feelings toward one another.
The guy sold him a system that look like I did a JUDO smash to it without teling him. All KK had to do is tell him about the JASON slice down the center of the system and allow KPJ to make an educated decision.
I stated that we should'nt bring price into it but sense KK was giving up such a good deal even with the console having a JASON split down the center, why did'nt he just come clean in the 1st place???
It's all about how KK handled this thing before and after the sale.
Was there a need for KK to lie or withold information to sell his stuff??
The issue here is TRUST Can I trust this seller??
Will he personally attack me ,sidetracking the true issue if I found out he's deceived me in a deal as well??
-BB

[Kpj]

To all:

This post was NOT made to get my money back. This thread was made to WARN/PROTECT others from his LYING ways. This was CLEARLY written in my initial post (go back & read it if necessary)

That's it. I don't expect ANY form of reimbursement from Will. I haven't since November OF 2003!

All I am asking is that you take caution when dealing with KK since he goes back on his word.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by SonGohan
I'll buy that system off of you for $50. Would you be up for that deal?

I'm offering a possible solution to your problem.

[leGionellz]

:eek:

That few dollars for a KOF97 and a modded DC stick and a crap looking, but perfectly working AES system ? I would have bought that and consider it good value for my money...

So I take back my words about the scamming. I know this is about principles, but Kenny, when you didn't know about that system not being in good condition, you could have known one thing that has been rehearsed many times on this forum:

A deal that looks too good to be true... usually is too good to be true.

Case closed, let Kim sell the material that brought him into this bullshit lie forum in the first place ;)

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
The point is, you only know/knew Kenny's story.

Next time you see Kim on Kailerra, why don't you ask him direct, instead of relying totally on Kenny's version. One guy is your friend, and one guy only cares about your money. Hard fucking decision.

I am not in this hobby stricly for the money. I've collected Neo carts since 1993. I am also not a liar/scammer/swindler. My words are 100% honest.

You, my friend, have a serious problem. You obviously dislike me (which is fine since the feeling is mutual) & trying to hit me with some dirt.

You are looking past the principal of this thread & blowing smoke out of your ass. Get back to the root of the problem.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
The point is, you only know/knew Kenny's story.

Next time you see Kim on Kailerra, why don't you ask him direct, instead of relying totally on Kenny's version. One guy is your friend, and one guy only cares about your money. Hard fucking decision.

EDIT: Argument removed, I'm not getting into this anymore.

KK messed up on his end of the deal, and KPJ shouldn't have mislead everyone saying it was $190 for the system.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by SonGohan
I'll buy that system off of you for $50. Would you be up for that deal?

^

[Takumaji]

Wait, I have another idea, why don't you build a RAT NEO, like those rotten black rat bikes at bike shows? You could even put one of those rocket science LEDs on it, one that doesn't work because it's a rat Neo after all.

I'd say $750 shipped.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
I am not in this hobby stricly for the money. I've collected Neo carts since 1993. I am also not a liar/scammer/swindler. My words are 100% honest.

You, my friend, have a serious problem. You obviously dislike me (which is fine since the feeling is mutual) & trying to hit me with some dirt.

You are looking past the principal of this thread & blowing smoke out of your ass. Get back to the root of the problem.

Whoa there.

I'm not looking past THE principal - I am looking past YOUR principal.

The principal would be getting ripped off for the money spent.

Your principal is not being able to get as much money as your margin demands.

And come on, you don't give a shit about playing the neo. When was the last time you ever talked gaming? You can't fool anyone. The only time you power up a game is to make sure it runs okay.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by SonGohan
I'll buy that system off of you for $50. Would you be up for that deal?

That's a great deal for a system with a broken shell, and all the hookups, including the power supply, which people are willing to pay a nice dime on.

[Soilwork]

If Kenny will take me up on the $50 offer, I'll gladly turn around and give it away to a random person on this board that'll actually play it.

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by leGionellz
:eek:

That few dollars for a KOF97 and a modded DC stick and a crap looking, but perfectly working AES system ? I would have bought that and consider it good value for my money...

So I take back my words about the scamming. I know this is about principles, but Kenny, when you didn't know about that system not being in good condition, you could have known one thing that has been rehearsed many times on this forum:

A deal that looks too good to be true... usually is too good to be true.

Case closed, let Kim sell the material that brought him into this bullshit lie forum in the first place ;)

\WRONG
What the stuff costs has nothing to do with it.
The two parties entered into a contract of sale.
The seller got the price he asked and withheld information that may or may not have affected the deal to go through.
Whether KPJ got a good deal or not is up to individual interpretation.
KPJ was deceived and then defamed for complaining.
This sh8t is hilarious because if any one of you people went to a car dealership and found out you got a great deal on a New vehicle and later found out that it was refurbished , you'd go ballistic..and then probably insane if the car dealer told you to go to hell because he feels like you take advantage of other people because your profession happens to be LAWYER.
-BB

[FeelGood]

"play... it..."

what is this thing you call "play it"?

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Whoa there.

I'm not looking past THE principal - I am looking past YOUR principal.

The principal would be getting ripped off for the money spent.

Your principal is not being able to get as much money as your margin demands.

And come on, you don't give a shit about playing the neo. When was the last time you ever talked gaming? You can't fool anyone. The only time you power up a game is to make sure it runs okay.

Just to clear things up, I was NOT aware of the damaged shell. As you can see in KK's quoted repsonse (in the initial thread), you will see he admitted to this.

This has NOTHING to do with my "margin". This is about withholding direct information on condition, going back on your word & turning into a child over a transaction you (Will) promised to resolve.

I never talk about gaming. I have nothing to say about gaming. When was the last time Shawn dropped into your chats about gaming? I've always lingered in the Selling forums, Tech forums, General forums & News/Rumors forums. Your simply overlooking the core of this post.

My reason for being here is irrelevant to the subject I am trying to get across. Quit playing stupid & free your mind.

And to answer your question, I play the Neo daily

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
If Kenny will take me up on the $50 offer, I'll gladly turn around and give it away to a random person on this board that'll actually play it.

The unit is not for sale. I am trying to find a replacement shell so that I have a complete unit.

[BIG BEAR]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
That's a great deal for a system with a broken shell, and all the hookups, including the power supply, which people are willing to pay a nice dime on.
You are 100% correct!!! The problem is... KK did'nt describe the system that way..
I hate to intervene here because this thread is one for the archives
:buttrock:
-BB

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by BIG BEAR
\WRONG
What the stuff costs has nothing to do with it.
The two parties entered into a contract of sale.
The seller got the price he asked and withheld information that may or may not have affected the deal to go through.
Whether KPJ got a good deal or not is up to individual interpretation.
KPJ was deceived and then defamed for complaining.
This sh8t is hilarious because if any one of you people went to a car dealership and found out you got a great deal on a New vehicle and later found out that it was refurbished , you'd go ballistic..and then probably insane if the car dealer told you to go to hell because he feels like you take advantage of other people because your profession happens to be LAWYER.
-BB

Great point and a good analogy too. :)

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
The unit is not for sale. I am trying to find a replacement shell so that I have a complete unit.

You're obviously not satisfied with it. You aren't getting money to get a replacement shell. Why not sell it for a little more than you bought it?

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
You're obviously not satisfied with it. You aren't getting money to get a replacement shell. Why not sell it for a little more than you bought it?

SG,

I am not satisfied with how Will conducted business. He purposely left out the mention of a crack (the size of the Grand Canyon). Anyone in my position would have done the same thing & called him on it.

I don't want the $$$!!! I wanted (and was PROMISED) a replacement shell from the seller (Will Collins, aka Kim_Kaphwan). That's all I want(ed).

I will find another shell in time; therefore, it is not for sale.

Why is it that Big Bear is the only one that understands the overall picture?

[Soilwork]

Hey, listen to me - I totally get it.

You're just warning people of Kim.

Yeah yeah.

But why?

Because you weren't told about a crack down the center of the shell casing.

When asked if you would've taken a refund, you say yes.

3 months have passed and you aren't getting any sort of refund from him.

We understand this.

I am still offering you a refund of sorts. You don't have the KOF 97 and the modded DC stick, or else I would've given you your refund and had you send me the items. Are you going to try and say you only wanted the refund from Kim?

BS. A refund is a refund. What are you going to do with this console? Fix it up? Mod it? Then sell it, of course. Hey man, I'm not asking for any of that (nor a replacement shell). I know the system condition. You have a chance to get rid of this (which is what you're pissed about in the first place) and wash your hands of the whole situation, while still making a profit.

Sure, sure. It's not the money that matters, it's the principal. Well how's this for a principal - You sell it to me, make a little extra money, and somebody gets this Neo for free and enjoys some great Neo gaming. That sounds like a winner to me. In the end you'll still not recommend K_K, and he'll still hate you. So, let's get past that and try to work out a deal now.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
Just to clear things up, I was NOT aware of the damaged shell. As you can see in KK's quoted repsonse (in the initial thread), you will see he admitted to this.

This has NOTHING to do with my "margin". This is about withholding direct information on condition, going back on your word & turning into a child over a transaction you (Will) promised to resolve.

I never talk about gaming. I have nothing to say about gaming. When was the last time Shawn dropped into your chats about gaming? I've always lingered in the Selling forums, Tech forums, General forums & News/Rumors forums. Your simply overlooking the core of this post.

My reason for being here is irrelevant to the subject I am trying to get across. Quit playing stupid & free your mind.


If it's not about the money then you'd just get the replacement shell on your own for the small price it costs you and you wouldn't be crying here like a big baby.

Your reason for being here is irrelevent to the neo-geo beyond selling. You won't get any sympathy from me.

Anyhow, Shawn plays games. If he didn't, he wouldn't have talked to me about needing a Sigma to play his SvCC with his friends on the big screen.



Originally posted by Kenny Boy
And to answer your question, I play the Neo daily

I think you mean you play the neo-scene daily.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by SonGohan
Hey, listen to me - I totally get it.

You're just warning people of Kim.

Yeah yeah.

But why?

Because you weren't told about a crack down the center of the shell casing.

When asked if you would've taken a refund, you say yes.

3 months have passed and you aren't getting any sort of refund from him.

We understand this.

I am still offering you a refund of sorts. You don't have the KOF 97 and the modded DC stick, or else I would've given you your refund and had you send me the items. Are you going to try and say you only wanted the refund from Kim?

BS. A refund is a refund. What are you going to do with this console? Fix it up? Mod it? Then sell it, of course. Hey man, I'm not asking for any of that (nor a replacement shell). I know the system condition. You have a chance to get rid of this (which is what you're pissed about in the first place) and wash your hands of the whole situation, while still making a profit.

Sure, sure. It's not the money that matters, it's the principal. Well how's this for a principal - You sell it to me, make a little extra money, and somebody gets this Neo for free and enjoys some great Neo gaming. That sounds like a winner to me. In the end you'll still not recommend K_K, and he'll still hate you. So, let's get past that and try to work out a deal now.

Excellent point.

Kenny, you should take him up on that.

It's a solution, and if you consider it a refund, you'd be getting more over all than you paid, factoring in the amount you probably got for KoF 97 and the DC stick.

Seriously, kid, how much is enough?

[Baseley09]

http://home.wideopenwest.com/~mdperry48/images/brokenaes.jpg

Batteries not Included?

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
Hey, listen to me - I totally get it.

You're just warning people of Kim.

Yeah yeah.

But why?

Because you weren't told about a crack down the center of the shell casing.

When asked if you would've taken a refund, you say yes.

3 months have passed and you aren't getting any sort of refund from him.

We understand this.

I am still offering you a refund of sorts. You don't have the KOF 97 and the modded DC stick, or else I would've given you your refund and had you send me the items. Are you going to try and say you only wanted the refund from Kim?

BS. A refund is a refund. What are you going to do with this console? Fix it up? Mod it? Then sell it, of course. Hey man, I'm not asking for any of that (nor a replacement shell). I know the system condition. You have a chance to get rid of this (which is what you're pissed about in the first place) and wash your hands of the whole situation, while still making a profit.

Sure, sure. It's not the money that matters, it's the principal. Well how's this for a principal - You sell it to me, make a little extra money, and somebody gets this Neo for free and enjoys some great Neo gaming. That sounds like a winner to me. In the end you'll still not recommend K_K, and he'll still hate you. So, let's get past that and try to work out a deal now.

"Are you going to try and say you only wanted the refund from Kim?"

SG,

What is this? Where are you coming from? This has nothing to do with anyone but Will & I. I do NOT want a refund. I want Will to keep his promise/uphold his end of our transaction. This is HOW business is done. This has NOTHING to do with making money, losing money, breaking even, etc...

Yes, I planned on modding/reselling this unit down the road. That is what I do.

I am NOT pissed off at Will personally, I am disgusted that he would act like this (in public may I remind you) & STILL have followers/buyers AFTER BLATANTLY ADMITTING that he is GLAD I GOT FUCKED! He has said this twice now.

How on EARTH can you people stand up, trust & continue doing business with a SELF-ADMITTING SCAMMER? He gets PLEASURE out of SCREWING people over! What other reason do I have to list in order for you other members to stop dealing with him?

I am touched that your willing to purchase this damage neo off of me & give it away. Your a very kind fellow :)

[JHendrix]

God this is dumb.

It's not wrong to make a profit by modding Neo's and selling them.

KPJ really had no reason for being upset over getting a working $30 home system, even with a giant crack in it. Problem is, there was some dishonesty there, Kim even admitted that (read the first post). He offered a fix and didn't deliver. Between not stating the condition of a VERY beat up system and not delivering on a fix he said he would he's in the wrong here.

It's NOT wrong for KPJ to keep the system, find a new shell, mod it, and sell it for a nice big profit.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Excellent point.

Kenny, you should take him up on that.

It's a solution, and if you consider it a refund, you'd be getting more over all than you paid, factoring in the amount you probably got for KoF 97 and the DC stick.

Seriously, kid, how much is enough?

EW,

This may be my last response to your ignorant posts. Your still not getting it.....

This isn't about getting my money back. This is about finishing a deal that Will promised to make good on. I did NOT sell the stick, it was given away. The KOF97 was also a wash.

This is not about profit. And maybe once you can see past your clouded stereotype of me, we will see eye to eye.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
I do NOT want a refund.
[/B]


Originally posted by Kenny Boy
But yes, I would give back all his stuff for a refund.

C'mon man, either you want one, or you don't. You don't have the other two items. Here's your chance to unload the system for more than you paid for it.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by JHendrix
God this is dumb.

It's not wrong to make a profit by modding Neo's and selling them.

Problem is, there was some dishonesty there, Kim even admitted that (read the first post). He offered a fix and didn't deliver. Between not stating the condition of a VERY beat up system and not delivering on a fix he said he would he's in the wrong here.

It's NOT wrong for KPJ to keep the system, find a new shell, mod it, and sell it for a nice big profit.

Amen, someone understands!

[Kpj]

Originally posted by SonGohan
C'mon man, either you want one, or you don't. You don't have the other two items. Here's your chance to unload the system for more than you paid for it.

SG,

I do NOT have the other items any longer, so a refund is IMPOSSIBLE.

This has NOTHING to do with PROFIT! I want what was promised by Will. I KNOW this ISN'T going to happen, so there is no possible solution.

I made this post SOLEY to inform others of his SHITTY-ASS BUSINESS PRACTICES & IMMENSE PLEASURE of FUCKING people over (self-admittance)!

He is pond scum....

[SML]

Originally posted by SonGohan
If Kenny will take me up on the $50 offer, I'll gladly turn around and give it away to a random person on this board that'll actually play it.

HELLO.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
SG,

I do NOT have the other items any longer, so a refund is IMPOSSIBLE.

This has NOTHING to do with PROFIT! I want what was promised by Will. I KNOW this ISN'T going to happen, so there is no possible solution.

I made this post SOLEY to inform others of his SHITTY-ASS BUSINESS PRACTICES & IMMENSE PLEASURE of FUCKING people over!

He is pond scum....

Hey man, this isn't about K_K anymore. You've said not to deal with him.

Fine, I'll consider it.

However, right now I'm considering doing a deal independant to you. I'm not trying to buy anything off of K_K. Right now you have a home system with a split down the middle. I'm offering you $50 for it. I'm merely stating the fact that you still come out on top in this situation of having a flawed home system.

I know you aren't about the money like everybody else would have you believe. I know you're a die hard Neo fan. I know you care about your customers. That's why I know you're more than generous enough to unload this system for cheap (still make a profit, but that doesn't matter in this situation) and make some kid out there you can't afford a Neo a happy camper. I know what kind of person you really are, and it's time for everybody else to see it too.

[Takumaji]

Originally posted by JHendrix
It's NOT wrong for KPJ to keep the system, find a new shell, mod it, and sell it for a nice big profit.

No, it's not really wrong, just not cool.

IMHO.

Neo karma's gonna get you all guys, and then your big Ferengi ears won't help you. :smirk:

[jethrek]

Originally posted by SonGohan
Hey man, this isn't about K_K anymore. You've said not to deal with him.

Fine, I'll consider it.

However, right now I'm considering doing a deal independant to you. I'm not trying to buy anything off of K_K. Right now you have a home system with a split down the middle. I'm offering you $50 for it. I'm merely stating the fact that you still come out on top in this situation of having a flawed home system.

I know you aren't about the money like everybody else would have you believe. I know you're a die hard Neo fan. I know you care about your customers. That's why I know you're more than generous enough to unload this system for cheap (still make a profit, but that doesn't matter in this situation) and make some kid out there you can't afford a Neo a happy camper. I know what kind of person you really are, and it's time for everybody else to see it too.

Yeah, I mean, if he does break even...yeah, KK ddi something shitty but if he's not losing anything no reason to cry over it.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by Takumaji
No, it's not really wrong, just not cool.

IMHO.

Neo karma's gonna get you all guys, and then your big Ferengi ears won't help you. :smirk:

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you don't think capitalism is cool or the fact that I know what a Ferengi is and how big their ears are. :loco:

[c.t.h]

if you guys don't like kennys price, fine, don't buy from him. he isn't the only seller.

you can always mod your system yourself too, the mod isn't that hard.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
SG,

I do NOT have the other items any longer, so a refund is IMPOSSIBLE.

This has NOTHING to do with PROFIT! I want what was promised by Will. I KNOW this ISN'T going to happen, so there is no possible solution.

I made this post SOLEY to inform others of his SHITTY-ASS BUSINESS PRACTICES & IMMENSE PLEASURE of FUCKING people over (self-admittance)!

He is pond scum....

How many people got fucked over by Will in a transaction?

Can I get a show of hands?

Now, you can't return the items for a refund, that's your personal problem, not Kim's.

I'm not sure what's funnier; the fact that JHendrix knows what a farani is, or the fact that Kenny Boy and Drift King both don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"...

[Takumaji]

Originally posted by c.t.h
you can always mod your system yourself too, the mod isn't that hard.

Then why should one feel the need to ask for big $$$ in return for one of those non-hard mods? Because of a colorful shell? Gimme a break, man.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
How people got fucked over by Will in a transaction?

Can I get a show of hands?

Now, you can't return the items for a refund, that's your personal problem, not Kim's.

I'm not sure what's funnier; the fact that JHendrix knows what a farani is, or the fact that Kenny Boy and Drift King both don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"...

AND Takumaji....:oh_no:

BTW, Kenny bitching about Kim not saying the system not had a crack down the center is every bit as valid as you bitching that a seller didn't say his inserts were sunfaded.

[c.t.h]

because, people will pay that much.

supply & demand my friend

[broken]

To quote a wise man:

"Everyone in here likes cawk...except me"

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi How people got fucked over by Will in a transaction?

Can I get a show of hands?

Now, you can't return the items for a refund, that's your personal problem, not Kim's.

Slow One,

He may not have been dishonest before, but he is now. That is what I am pointing out.


I'm not sure what's funnier; the fact that JHendrix knows what a farani is, or the fact that Kenny Boy and Drift King both don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"...

Again, trying to put a different spin on this thread. I am amazed that people have any kind of respect for you. Your a very transparent person. Good luck in life buddy.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by c.t.h
because, people will pay that much.

supply & demand my friend

And because some people are to scared to open up a system and realize how easy it is to do. So pre-modded systems fetch a lot more money than non modded ones.

Kind of the same reason that a 3Ghz P4 Gaming machine with a high end video card from Dell costs $2G's and you can build the same thing yourself for about a grand or so.

Not everyone can do the work, or want to take the time to do the work. So they pay the extra money.

How is this so complicated?

[FeelGood]

lol.

You know what's really the funniest thing -

How Kenny Boy first came to ng.com with the fanfare that he'd mod systems more affordably than Arcade or JeffK - and what happened. From day one his spot was blown for being overpriced.

How much does it cost to add a LED light to the Neo? HAHAHA.

Poor Kenny Boy. Dragging Kim's name in the dirt as if he's Dion Dakis, just because he had a bad deal.

I've had bad deals with good people where I came out at a loss. They know who they are. I haven't brought their names out on the forums and ran them through the mud. Why? Because it isn't worth it. You came up short $35, a number created by you. Honestly, man, so what? That's a fucking hour's worth of work. Get over it.

It's funny how clearly you can see who the petty people are when a small insignificant figure like $35 is made into a big fucking deal.

[FeelGood]

Oh, and it is about money, because Kenny admitted that for $35 the situation would be okay.

But because he didn't get $35, he's crying.

Kenny, why not just ask your daddy to send you a check for $35? :spock:

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
lol.

You know what's really the funniest thing -

How Kenny Boy first came to ng.com with the fanfare that he'd mod systems more affordably than Arcade or JeffK - and what happened. From day one his spot was blown for being overpriced.

How much does it cost to add a LED light to the Neo? HAHAHA.

Poor Kenny Boy. Dragging Kim's name in the dirt as if he's Dion Dakis, just because he had a bad deal.

I've had bad deals with good people where I came out at a loss. They know who they are. I haven't brought their names out on the forums and ran them through the mud. Why? Because it isn't worth it. You came up short $35, a number created by you. Honestly, man, so what? That's a fucking hour's worth of work. Get over it.

It's funny how clearly you can see who the petty people are when a small insignificant figure like $35 is made into a big fucking deal.

Slow One,

This was only brought up in public due to KK's broken promised' replies. I would never had aired this if he would have kept his word & been a real man.

If I am dead-ass wrong with my complaint/accusation, why hasn't Will posted a response? :D

Your a complete idiot Charlie, still can't believe Shawn has appointed you a moderator :drool:

[JHendrix]

Heh, the thread got moved back.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by SonGohan
I know you aren't about the money like everybody else would have you believe. I know you're a die hard Neo fan. I know you care about your customers. That's why I know you're more than generous enough to unload this system for cheap (still make a profit, but that doesn't matter in this situation) and make some kid out there you can't afford a Neo a happy camper. I know what kind of person you really are, and it's time for everybody else to see it too.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Oh, and it is about money, because Kenny admitted that for $35 the situation would be okay.

But because he didn't get $35, he's crying.

Kenny, why not just ask your daddy to send you a check for $35? :spock:

The $35 that I requested (and that Will AGREED to reimburse me) would have gone towards a different shell.

Your grabbing at straws buddy, it's pretty obvious. Why not make a joke about my mother next :)

I do have a sister too ;)

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
EW,

This may be my last response to your ignorant posts.



Too bad, eh.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Too bad, eh.


Originally posted by JHendrix
Heh, the thread got moved back.

The jokes on you, EW :drool_2:

[Takumaji]

Originally posted by JHendrix
AND Takumaji....:oh_no:

That Ferengi quote wasn't directed towards you in case you haven't noticed.

Since when are we that touchy, eh?

And...

Why is it that you always come up with that capitalism thingy everytime others obviously try to cash in ppl's passions/hobbies? Isn't it enough that we have to pay outta our asses for all that official stuff we buy everyday, does it have to be like that in a damn fan scene as well where ppl are supposed to help eachother out because of respect and love for something like a vg system? Yes, nobody forces us to buy one of those things, but it ain't that easy.

Why is it that ppl like Supergoose will stop spreading infos about SG mods and stuff like that? Because they want to make sure that none of those guys who turn anything into a biz rips off their docs and infos that were meant as a non-profit way of spreading info about such mods. Because these ppl love what they do.

And that, my friend, is worth more than a dollar. Reducing all and everything to a question of supply and demand is not the way to go.

IMO of course.

[FeelGood]

I don't know man. People are seeing how petty and childish you are over $35. God forbid someone sells you something that isn't up to your standards and you run their name through the mud - unless of course - they pay you $35.

Nice racket.

[Soilwork]

ok ok ok

I see the problem now.

OK kenny

I'll give you $50 + $35 for that system in a new shell.

[kernow]

Pimpin' aint easy

But it sure is fun'
But it sure is fun'

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by Takumaji
That Ferengi quote wasn't directed towards you in case you haven't noticed.

Since when are we that touchy, eh?

And...

Why is it that you always come up with that capitalism thingy everytime others obviously try to cash in ppl's passions/hobbies? Isn't it enough that we have to pay outta our asses for all that official stuff we buy everyday, does it have to be like that in a damn fan scene as well where ppl are supposed to help eachother out because of respect and love for something like a vg system? Yes, nobody forces us to buy one of those things, but it ain't that easy.

Why is it that ppl like Supergoose will stop spreading infos about SG mods and stuff like that? Because they want to make sure that none of those guys who turn anything into a biz rips off their docs and infos that were meant as a non-profit way of spreading info about such mods. Because these ppl love what they do.

And that, my friend, is worth more than a dollar. Reducing all and everything to a question of supply and demand is not the way to go.

IMO of course.

DUDE why don't you take my little joke completely out of context!

EW made a little joke about how it was funny that I knew what a Ferengi was, so I added in "AND Takumaji!" like as in you knew too so I'm not alone in my loser Star Trek knowledge.

And on top of that my whole first post on the Ferengi issue was a joke anyways. :p

I'm not even going to bother arguing the capitalism in hobbies thing, because I'll always think its fine and how the world works, and you'll always think it's wrong.

PS. What's extra funny is not only was the thread moved back, but it was given a Sticky too. :tickled:

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
I don't know man. People are seeing how petty and childish you are over $35. God forbid someone sells you something that isn't up to your standards and you run their name through the mud - unless of course - they pay you $35.

Nice racket.

This isn't over $35, it's over principal & the protection of others. If only ONE person stays away from KK & his items, then I've accomplished something.

All you have done is make yourself look silly & hypocritical (as always my friend). I didn't run Will's name thru the mud; he did it all himself.

I didn't know it was ethical to break promises & go back on set transactions. BTW, this isn't about a product not meeting my "standards", this is about a gigantic blemish that was PURPOSELY withheld. Not to mention, it was acknowledged once the scammer was caught in his tracks.

If this crack isn't such a big deal, why don't you swap shells with me? :smirk:

[FeelGood]

You mean that if Kim could afford to pay you $35, and did pay you, you'd still tell everyone he's a "scammer"???

You are the only person to ever get the short end of the stick with Kim. How does that make him a full fledged scammer?

You're ridiculous.

I mean, you've sold bum shit before, as I know from one member, so, by your logic, that means you ALWAYS sell bum shit now.


Originally posted by Kenny Boy
This isn't over $35, it's over principal & the protection of others. If only ONE person stays away from KK & his items, then I've accomplished something.

All you have done is make yourself look silly & hypocritical (as always my friend). I didn't run Will's name thru the mud; he did it all himself.

I didn't know it was ethical to break promises & go back on set transactions. BTW, this isn't about a product not meeting my "standards", this is about a gigantic blemish that was PURPOSELY withheld. Not to mention, it was acknowledged once the scammer was caught in his tracks.

If this crack isn't such a big deal, why don't you swap shells with me? :smirk:

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
You mean that if Kim could afford to pay you $35, and did pay you, you'd still tell everyone he's a "scammer"???

You are the only person to ever get the short end of the stick with Kim. How does that make him a full fledged scammer?

You're ridiculous.

I mean, you've sold bum shit before, as I know from one member, so, by your logic, that means you ALWAYS sell bum shit now.

If KK would have reimbursed me OR replaced the broken shell, this post would have not been created.

He has ADMITTED to this accusation OPENLY in HIS OWN THREAD! WHAT OTHER PROOF DO YOU NEED?

If I had sold "bum" shit (as you say), has every right to contact me.

[kaos]

Originally posted by Takumaji
Why is it that ppl like Supergoose will stop spreading infos about SG mods and stuff like that? Because they want to make sure that none of those guys who turn anything into a biz rips off their docs and infos that were meant as a non-profit way of spreading info about such mods. Because these ppl love what they do.

And that, my friend, is worth more than a dollar. Reducing all and everything to a question of supply and demand is not the way to go.

IMO of course.

mine too...

I dont wanna say anything about this discussion

I entered just to BUMP this
should be the way it goes
not only for Neo & Geo

laters

[wolvie]

coom by ya my lord,
why cant we all just get along.

[Takumaji]

Originally posted by JHendrix
DUDE why don't you take my little joke completely out of context!

EW made a little joke about how it was funny that I knew what a Ferengi was, so I added in "AND Takumaji!" like as in you knew too so I'm not alone in my loser Star Trek knowledge.

And on top of that my whole first post on the Ferengi issue was a joke anyways. :p


Heh, okay, my bad.

* wipes glasses

[FeelGood]

the fact that the guy didn't contact you and moved on is because he's not a petty guy. He took it as a lesson learned - that he himself wouldn't deal with you again. He's not going around calling you a scammer to the world.

That's what you're doing, and it makes you look like an idiot.

Aaron Lewis and Japhei were scammers because they affected so many people.

Even with Tim Tews, people didn't believe at first that he was a scammer until a lot of people stepped up and started to offer stories of how they were gypped.

But here it's just you, running your mouth like you can speak for the world. You got a bad deal. Doesn't make Kim a scammer. Just makes you unlucky.

[shir0]

I'll go in half with songohan if he'll let me keep the
neo. :drool_2: Hey, Gohan'll get 25 dollars back.

Later

shir0

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Wow the plot thickens


No. nothing thickened. it was posted at the begining, you just missed it.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
the fact that the guy didn't contact you and moved on is because he's not a petty guy. He took it as a lesson learned - that he himself wouldn't deal with you again. He's not going around calling you a scammer to the world.

That's what you're doing, and it makes you look like an idiot.

Aaron Lewis and Japhei were scammers because they affected so many people.

Even with Tim Tews, people didn't believe at first that he was a scammer until a lot of people stepped up and started to offer stories of how they were gypped.

But here it's just you, running your mouth like you can speak for the world. You got a bad deal. Doesn't make Kim a scammer. Just makes you unlucky.

I kindly posted in KKs selling thread; asking if he had received my emails & the status of our transaction. From there, he turned ugly & started to cuss.

HE blew this out of proportion, HE promised me a fix & DIDN'T deliver, HE is the BAD person here & HE dragged his OWN name in the mud by showing NO respect for a transaction that took place.

And to top it all off, HE willingly ADMITTED to all this in his thread. Would an honorable, trustyworth business person do this?

Your simply an idiot, that's why your not grasping this concept. :smirk:

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
the fact that the guy didn't contact you and moved on is because he's not a petty guy. He took it as a lesson learned - that he himself wouldn't deal with you again. He's not going around calling you a scammer to the world.

That's what you're doing, and it makes you look like an idiot.

Aaron Lewis and Japhei were scammers because they affected so many people.

Even with Tim Tews, people didn't believe at first that he was a scammer until a lot of people stepped up and started to offer stories of how they were gypped.

But here it's just you, running your mouth like you can speak for the world. You got a bad deal. Doesn't make Kim a scammer. Just makes you unlucky.

So KyokugenStar isn't a scammer cause he only ripped off one guy...

[Xander Crews]

Originally posted by JHendrix
So KyokugenStar isn't a scammer cause he only ripped off one guy...

I wasn't around for that deal, but from what I thought he didn't have any other sales besides that one. Am I wrong?

[SHO]

This is one hell of a fast growing thread

Honestly...

Who hasn't bought something and attempted to sell on at a higher price? ok may be some seriously havent

I admit.. i have... bought something cheap... sell on for more...

this is how the world turns around

No one forces Kim to sell it cheap!

The point is... the item was not accurately described!

I can sell you a neo for $20 that doesnt work and no chance ever for it to work again! sorry forgot to tell you!

No one will buy it even if it was $20

end of my story!

keep on the arguement! :buttrock: very entertaining :D

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by SHO
No one will buy it even if it was $20


Sorry, Kenny has stated he'd buy it for $35 for the shell.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by JHendrix
So KyokugenStar isn't a scammer cause he only ripped off one guy...

J,

EW must have a pending transaction with Will. Why else would he be sticking up for him?

I am glad that other people see how phony Charlie is....

My offer still stands Slow One. Send me the top shell of your AES unit & I'll send you this nice "Grand Canyon" version :tickled:

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by lithy
I wasn't around for that deal, but from what I thought he didn't have any other sales besides that one. Am I wrong?

If I'm not mistaken the guy is some big old collector in Germany who got in some magazine cause his collection was so big or something.

I'm pretty sure he had a good amount of deals here, and if not there's some German message board he posts at and has had deals there (I think it was Tak who pointed this out - god it was a long time ago).

[SHO]

Originally posted by SonGohan
Sorry, Kenny has stated he'd buy it for $35 for the shell.

i was just using it as an example to make a point... if you get what i'm saying... not exactly saying selling a neo for $20

never mind... i dont want to flood this thread...one hell of a fast growing thread :buttrock:

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
lol.How much does it cost to add a LED light to the Neo? HAHAHA.

:(

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
So KyokugenStar isn't a scammer cause he only ripped off one guy...

In a way, yeah, he isn't. Because how many people has he scammed since? But the fact that the whole operation was orchestrated like that and the deal snared him over 1600 euros made him a villian to be sure.

This is like comparing shoplifting to grand theft. You get KoF 97, a modded DC stick, and a system, albeit cosmetically damaged but still functional, for $180. That's not a scam. A scam is when you end at a loss. Not when you still come out on top.

[c.t.h]

Did Kim say the system was in good shape? I mean, how was it described....

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
In a way, yeah, he isn't. Because how many people has he scammed since? But the fact that the whole operation was orchestrated like that and the deal snared him over 1600 euros made him a villian to be sure.

This is like comparing shoplifting to grand theft. You get KoF 97, a modded DC stick, and a system, albeit cosmetically damaged but still functional, for $180. That's not a scam. A scam is when you end at a loss. Not when you still come out on top.

Nice logic. Theft is theft & a lie is a lie. Going back on your word/promise is just icing to the cake.

So I assume we will still trade shells? :drool:

[RAINBOW PONY]

I would just like to say I agree wholeheartedly with Kenny here.

Evil Wasabi, all you posted here was complete bullshit, you are in the wrong, and you know it. You just lost all respect I ever had for you, and I believe a lot of other users here have as well. Siding with a scammer who admitted he is a scammer is a very stupid thing to do.

I have nothing to say about Kim that hasn't been said a hundred times over already.

And I don't know what you people are saying about Kenny gouging prices, all I know about that is Kenny has NEVER done that with me. I've had multiple transactions with his, and he's never highballed or gouged anything I was buying from him. He is an honest, reliable seller, in short, everything Kim is not.

Oh, and mad props for those Neon Consoles! I'd seriously think about buying one if I didn't already have a Cab. :D

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
J,

EW must have a pending transaction with Will. Why else would he be sticking up for him?

I am glad that other people see how phony Charlie is....

My offer still stands Slow One. Send me the top shell of your AES unit & I'll send you this nice "Grand Canyon" version :tickled:

Why the hell would I want to send you anything?

For one thing, I hear you like to send bum shit out, which makes you like a scammer yourself.

For another, my system is mint and modded with a debug bios. Why should I take the broken system you have for my perfect system? That just doesn't make sense.

Anyhow, I don't have any pending transactions with anyone. Unlike a lot of the members of the site, I never vouch for someone because I'm dealing with them. I vouch for people because I believe they are good, and contribute something to the site.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
In a way, yeah, he isn't. Because how many people has he scammed since? But the fact that the whole operation was orchestrated like that and the deal snared him over 1600 euros made him a villian to be sure.

This is like comparing shoplifting to grand theft. You get KoF 97, a modded DC stick, and a system, albeit cosmetically damaged but still functional, for $180. That's not a scam. A scam is when you end at a loss. Not when you still come out on top.

Ok so we're now arguing semmantics. Kim isn't a scammer, he's a "villian".

This is still no different than you posting about some seller who doesn't mention his carts are sunfaded, or that guy on ebay who sells tons of neo stuff from Japan where the games aren't always in top condition.

The point is to let people know that you won't deal with them for such and such a reason, and that they might want to consider doing the same thing.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by c.t.h
Did Kim say the system was in good shape? I mean, how was it described....

Here are his exact words:

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan

"alright kiddies here's the deal, since i'm going into the suprergun route, i'm selling off my aes junk. for cheap, my loss is your gain yadda yadda. so here's what i got
AES BUNDLE!!!!
neo geo home system-$99+shipping
kof97(jap)good shape, will have pics later-$65
modded dc/neo arcade stick-$60
this stuff is all in great working condition, been playing it for over a year now, and was bought from neo bomber man so you know it's good; just gimme your money."

Gosh, no mention of the crack in his listing, that's soooo weird...... :spock:

[Average Joe]

Has anyone seen my pants?

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by DARK_ANDY
I would just like to say I agree wholeheartedly with Kenny here.

Evil Wasabi, all you posted here was complete bullshit, you are in the wrong, and you know it. You just lost all respect I ever had for you, and I believe a lot of other users here have as well. Siding with a scammer who admitted he is a scammer is a very stupid thing to do.

I have nothing to say about Kim that hasn't been said a hundred times over already.

And I don't know what you people are saying about Kenny gouging prices, all I know about that is Kenny has NEVER done that with me. I've had multiple transactions with his, and he's never highballed or gouged anything I was buying from him. He is an honest, reliable seller, in short, everything Kim is not.

Oh, and mad props for those Neon Consoles! I'd seriously think about buying one if I didn't already have a Cab. :D

LOL...

OK, now I feel better about this whole thing. Dark Andy has sided with Kenny. ROTFLOL.

[Xander Crews]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
Here are his exact words:

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan

"alright kiddies here's the deal, since i'm going into the suprergun route, i'm selling off my aes junk. for cheap, my loss is your gain yadda yadda. so here's what i got
AES BUNDLE!!!!
neo geo home system-$99+shipping
kof97(jap)good shape, will have pics later-$65
modded dc/neo arcade stick-$60
this stuff is all in great working condition, been playing it for over a year now, and was bought from neo bomber man so you know it's good; just gimme your money."

Gosh, no mention of the crack in his listing, that's soooo weird...... :spock:

Well it does work...

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Ok so we're now arguing semmantics. Kim isn't a scammer, he's a "villian".

This is still no different than you posting about some seller who doesn't mention his carts are sunfaded, or that guy on ebay who sells tons of neo stuff from Japan where the games aren't always in top condition.

The point is to let people know that you won't deal with them for such and such a reason, and that they might want to consider doing the same thing.

Nah dude, I asked Hisashi first if the cart was sunfaded and he said no. Big fucking difference.

Also, I didn't say Kim is a villian. You did. I also didn't say he's a scammer, Kenny did.

But Kenny sees him as a scammer, I don't.

And, Kim hasn't said much at all in this thread. Wonder why? It's all been Kenny boy...

[RAINBOW PONY]

I don't side with Kenny, per se. I side with the people who are scammed, and you are standing on the other side of the line.

Go ahead, keep defending an admitted Scammer, and see how many friends you have left after this scuffle.

I'm now just wondering what other crap you going to spout, just to defend a Liar ( proven ), a Scammer ( proven ) and a Con Artist ( proven ).

[beelzebubble]

this stuff is all in great working condition

this is open to interpretation.

[bulletnyourass]

Just when I think things can't get any worst around here, something like this happens. Everyone is pissed because Kenny sells items above what they feel is warranted. I have seen Mega Neos in the Neo Store for sale and they are even more than buying one from Kenny (and yes the ones in ther Neo Store were modded by Kenny). People actually buy these things on Ebay and they set the price because they are in a bidding war with each other. Would I like to see some lower prices? Yes. Would I like to get some good deals? Yes. That is nothing to be upset about. If no one buys his items at the asking price, he will lower prices. Since he hasn't lowered prices, that means that no one is too upset about them. If you don't agree with Kenny's prices there ARE alternatives. When I got into the Neo I couldn't afford to get one of Kenny's modded Neos..let alone one of !Arcades!. I bought my system unmodded off of Ebay and had JMKurtz do my mod work for me. That is what you do when you cant afford or don't agree with someones asking prices.

The fact remains. Kim_Kaphwan entered into a deal with Kenny for an AES System and failed to mention that there was a 'HUGE SPLIT" down the middle of the system. This is something that should have been mentioned. I can see if it was something minor like a sticking reset button, non working volume slider, or faded logo. We are talking about a SEVERELY CRACKED top shell. I would have even been able to accept a broken cart slot door. The amount of money he (Kenny) paid for the package is irrelevant. So what if you think it's a good deal. It would have been a good deal had Will openly stated in his selling thread that there was a Crack through the top half of the shell.

When Kenny received the system, Will said he would give Kenny some sort of reimbursement (cash or top shell). He even said he would make some attempt to phenagle some cash since he had already spent the money to buy some harmonicas. He (Will) even stated that was how he received the system from NBM..BUT...that NBM informed him of the condition before he bought it. Couldn't he had given Kenny the same courtesy? How much more time and effort would it have taken to type: Top portion of AES case is split down the middle.... or... Case has cosmetic damage!? This would have given Kenny the opportunity to ask further questions about the system to find out the extent of the damage.

I know alot of you don't like Kenny. Whether you agree with his business practices or not, doesnt give someone the right to CHEAT him in a deal. It bothers me that so many of you think it's okay because Kenny has made alot of money off the forums, that he can afford to be scammed. The comment was made that he sold bum stuff in the past to members. All I can say is that when I have bought carts from Kenny, they were lower then their Neo Store counterparts in similar condition. Kenny has even emailed me to make sure that the game arrived and that I was satisfied with it. Yeah he makes a profit. He'd be a fool not to. No one does work for free. Yes, I can probably do the "simple mods" but I have no electronic or soldering skills so it would behoove me to take my system apart and start tinkering with it.

The bottom line is Will made a deceptful selling thread. He is a well known member of the forums. He knows what is to be expected out of a selling thread. The amount of scams and bad deals that go on in these forums are getting larger daily. Whether he had 1 bad deal or many of them, he should be dealt with like any other bad seller. Because he (Will) is such a good freind to so many people here this thread was originally moved to the war room. There are alot of people taking his side strictly because he IS their freind and/or they don't like Kenny. If any of you had ended up in the same situation (and dont say you wouldn't), you would have been pissed the minute you opened the box and saw that system. So far as asking for pics; I would like to beleive that if I bought from any of you long time members that posted here (EW, BB, JHendrix,Kenny..etc) that if you had a selling thread you would have automatically put in the thread that there was a CRACK/SPLIT/Cosmetic Damage to the Shell.

Let's not be HYPOCRITES! Wrong is wrong whether Will is your freind. Personally, I think this has been one of the lowest displays of character I have seen from any member since Florian selling his MINT COLLECTORS (gamers conditioned) CARTS. How can someone say, " I'm glad you got fucked over in our deal!", and you all come out to defend him. He's openly admitting that he know he screwed Kenny over. I don't know Will.I've never dealt with Will. I have nothing personal against Will. This transaction was nothing but shady and the rest of you that thinks this is funny or well deseved for Kenny is truly fucked in the head. This is telling members that if you have freinds here you can scam any unliked member and it will be okay. That shit is as wrong as 2 left shoes!

Phillip

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Why the hell would I want to send you anything?

For another, my system is mint and modded with a debug bios. Why should I take the broken system you have for my perfect system? That just doesn't make sense.

I thought you said that this "crack" wasn't something to lose sleep over. If so, you should have no problem trading shells with me. Since your a person of hig values & integrity, you should be a good samaritan & help out a member in need.

I also can't believe I was able to stump you. WOW, with your almighty intelligence, one would think a peasant like me couldn't get the better of you

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
Here are his exact words:

Originally posted by Kim _Kaphwan

"alright kiddies here's the deal, since i'm going into the suprergun route, i'm selling off my aes junk. for cheap, my loss is your gain yadda yadda. so here's what i got
AES BUNDLE!!!!
neo geo home system-$99+shipping
kof97(jap)good shape, will have pics later-$65
modded dc/neo arcade stick-$60
this stuff is all in great working condition, been playing it for over a year now, and was bought from neo bomber man so you know it's good; just gimme your money."

Gosh, no mention of the crack in his listing, that's soooo weird...... :spock:

HELLO

That home system for sale for $99 with no mention of the crack? So basically Kenny talked him down from $225 to $180 for those three items.

Fuckin-a, if I bought that Neo for $100 and I had no idea it had a crack like that in there I'd be hella pissed.

Kenny is just lucky he didn't loose out on a lot more money.

[galfordo]

Yarghhh ..... I'm staying out of this one.

:oh_no: :oh_no: :oh_no: :oh_no:

[BaaL]

Originally posted by Takumaji
That Ferengi quote wasn't directed towards you in case you haven't noticed.

Since when are we that touchy, eh?

And...

Why is it that you always come up with that capitalism thingy everytime others obviously try to cash in ppl's passions/hobbies? Isn't it enough that we have to pay outta our asses for all that official stuff we buy everyday, does it have to be like that in a damn fan scene as well where ppl are supposed to help eachother out because of respect and love for something like a vg system? Yes, nobody forces us to buy one of those things, but it ain't that easy.

Why is it that ppl like Supergoose will stop spreading infos about SG mods and stuff like that? Because they want to make sure that none of those guys who turn anything into a biz rips off their docs and infos that were meant as a non-profit way of spreading info about such mods. Because these ppl love what they do.

And that, my friend, is worth more than a dollar. Reducing all and everything to a question of supply and demand is not the way to go.

IMO of course.

So you are saying that if you had a copy of Kizuna Euro you wouldn't try and get 10k plus for it? Or, by extension, that if you happened across a copy of Metal Slug at a garage sale for $25 you would kindly inform the seller that it is worth a couple thousand? Supply and demand in not some vague concept that is imposed upon us by the Gov't, its is simply the logical extension of what happens when people try to get the best deal that they can. But as this is getting WAY off the topic...

With all the post that I have been reading regarding bad sellers and the overall lack of ethics and trust on these boards, I find it a bit incredulous that people would be defending K_K for actions that are completely UNTRUSTWORTHY and degard the community as a whole. When it comes down to it, the only thing that buyers can count on is that the person that they are buying from is a trustworthy person whose description of the item is accuarate. Everytime someone breaks that trust it just makes everyone a bit more cynical and, in the end, drives the prices up because the people with sterling reputations can charge more because they end up getting a monopoly on the market.

EW tries to defend K_K by saying that Kenny Boy just got unlucky on a deal. Now I don't mean to flame you personally EW, but if that is your defintion of unlucky then english must be your second language. Unlucky is finding out that there are a few more scratches on the cart then was described; omitting the fact that the case is split COMPLETELY in half is an outright lie. Trying to defend K_K by observing that this is his first scam is a bit weak. After all, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. The only thing that keeping quite does is encorage and allow more of the same behavior. I, for one, would like to say Thank You to Kenny Boy for letting us know the way K_K conducts business. I would have hated to find out that he does not like me by getting a cart that had been chainsawed in half.

[RAINBOW PONY]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
I thought you said that this "crack" wasn't something to lose sleep over. If so, you should have no problem trading shells with me. Since your a person of hig values & integrity, you should be a good samaritan & help out a member in need.

I also can't believe I was able to stump you. WOW, with your almighty intelligence, one would think a peasant like me couldn't get the better of you

Well, point, set and match.

You just talked yourself into a corner, Wasabi.

I'm going to love to read how you're going to squirm out of this one.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
I thought you said that this "crack" wasn't something to lose sleep over. If so, you should have no problem trading shells with me. Since your a person of hig values & integrity, you should be a good samaritan & help out a member in need.

I also can't believe I was able to stump you. WOW, with your almighty intelligence, one would think a peasant like me couldn't get the better of you

Yeah, a crack on a $99 system, haggled down to $54 after the $225 was dropped to $180.

Fuck man, just for parts that's an excellent deal.

Why didn't you ask for a pic, anyways? or more details?

How long have you been in this business? Are you fucking retarded?

Everyone that has ever bought from me has asked for pictures or details. Lots of details. I can't believe you didn't.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by DARK_ANDY
I don't side with Kenny, per se. I side with the people who are scammed, and you are standing on the other side of the line.

Go ahead, keep defending an admitted Scammer, and see how many friends you have left after this scuffle.

I'm now just wondering what other crap you going to spout, just to defend a Liar ( proven ), a Scammer ( proven ) and a Con Artist ( proven ).

Dude, you didn't see the emails that led up to the "I'm glad your ass got scammed" line. You're just a fucking tool who's only seen Kenny's side. Go back to your nintendo 64 wrestling games.

[RAINBOW PONY]

Oh, okay. so if someone doesn't follow each and every procedure in a sale, it's allright to get scammed! Hooray, Wasabi rewrites logic and common sense! The world implodes as a consequence!

Well, at least with this topic I can whittle down the amount of people I'd consider buying/trading/selling with.

[c.t.h]

"great working condition"

it works great right?

whats the issue, he never said it was a collectors piece.

slap some duct tape on it :o

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Yeah, a crack on a $99 system, haggled down to $54 after the $225 was dropped to $180.

Fuck man, just for parts that's an excellent deal.

Why didn't you ask for a pic, anyways? or more details?

How long have you been in this business? Are you fucking retarded?

Everyone that has ever bought from me has asked for pictures or details. Lots of details. I can't believe you didn't.

First off you can't just say the price on the system was $54, more like $84 if you distribute the savings accordingly.

Second it doesn't matter if he got a good deal or a bad deal (he did come out ahead if you asked me), but if another member didn't do a package deal and got that system for $100 they'd have been SCAMMED.

That's the whole point of bringing this up!

[RAINBOW PONY]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Dude, you didn't see the emails that led up to the "I'm glad your ass got scammed" line. You're just a fucking tool who's only seen Kenny's side. Go back to your nintendo 64 wrestling games.

I've already heard Kim's side, vie all the posts he made. I don't give a single shit what he made via PMs, or any other form, what he does HERE is all that matters to me. THIS shows his true colors, I don't care if he sends freaking flowers in his PMs, he is a scamming asshole ON THESE FORUMS.

Oh, and thanks, but I'd rather get back to my MVS Cabinet and play some ROTD, or perhaps I'll hook the Hyper 64 back and play some FFRB. Hmm, I might just go into the other room and play some Crossed Swords on the CDZ.

Meanwhile, keep digging that hole.

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by SonGohan
I know you aren't about the money like everybody else would have you believe. I know you're a die hard Neo fan. I know you care about your customers. That's why I know you're more than generous enough to unload this system for cheap (still make a profit, but that doesn't matter in this situation) and make some kid out there you can't afford a Neo a happy camper. I know what kind of person you really are, and it's time for everybody else to see it too.

[Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew]

I'm still waiting to see a hot pink system.

I'd pay $800 for that, although I'm sure there are at least 10 other idiots lined up to pay more.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by JHendrix
HELLO

That home system for sale for $99 with no mention of the crack? So basically Kenny talked him down from $225 to $180 for those three items.

Fuckin-a, if I bought that Neo for $100 and I had no idea it had a crack like that in there I'd be hella pissed.

Kenny is just lucky he didn't loose out on a lot more money.

No, I didn't talk him down.

Later in his post, he offered the package for $190 shipped.

Kpj

[gmw]

I don't know K_K at all, but I find this thread completely off the wall. I've done a few deals with Kenny Boy, and sold to him as well as traded with him. He's never been anything but a courteous, honest, and excellent dealer. I can't understand this hostility towards him based on his prices - has anyone examined the Neo Store lately?

Prices in the Neo hobby have been ridiculous all across the board in recent years. Kenny's hardly to blame for this. I'm sure that anyone who has bought from him, traded with him, or sold to him will tell you that he's a great person to deal with.

Fact of the matter is, sure, $190 for all that stuff is a good deal, but that doesn't matter. No matter how good a deal it is, K_K misrepresented the deal completely and that sure as hell isn't exactly a surface scratch on that home system. It's the responsibility of the seller to represent his items to the best of his abilities, and if the buyer isn't fully satisfied, then it's refund time. That's how selling and trading communities work.

There is no logical defense for what K_K did, and smearing Kenny with a bunch of nonsense about him not playing games (who gives a shit?) is absurd.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
First off you can't just say the price on the system was $54, more like $84 if you distribute the savings accordingly.

Second it doesn't matter if he got a good deal or a bad deal (he did come out ahead if you asked me), but if another member didn't do a package deal and got that system for $100 they'd have been SCAMMED.

That's the whole point of bringing this up!

Even at $84 - you have the power supply that Kenny would probably sell off for $30+ and then the fully functional motherboard to use in case, god forbid, a system dies and he needs a mothboard replacement.

How much do systems with all the hookups cost usually anyways with shipping in the US?

I mean, I don't know what I'd expect if I paid $500 for a Grand Vega television. What do you think you'd get?

Maybe you'd ask a lot of questions first... Maybe ask for pics...

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Even at $84 - you have the power supply that Kenny would probably sell off for $30+ and then the fully functional motherboard to use in case, god forbid, a system dies and he needs a mothboard replacement.

How much do systems with all the hookups cost usually anyways with shipping in the US?

I mean, I don't know what I'd expect if I paid $500 for a Grand Vega television. What do you think you'd get?

Maybe you'd ask a lot fo questions first... Maybe ask for pics...

So it's Kenny's fault for not asking for pics, but it's definitely not Kim's fault for having a completely misleading description for his item?

What a crock...

You seem bent out of shape that Kenny still got a good deal. But the whole friggin point is that Kim sold an item while not mentioning a major defect. That's why this was brought up.

Because of that, a lot of people won't deal with him now.

[bulletnyourass]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Even at $84 - you have the power supply that Kenny would probably sell off for $30+ and then the fully functional motherboard to use in case, god forbid, a system dies and he needs a mothboard replacement.

How much do systems with all the hookups cost usually anyways with shipping in the US?

I mean, I don't know what I'd expect if I paid $500 for a Grand Vega television. What do you think you'd get?

Maybe you'd ask a lot of questions first... Maybe ask for pics...

EW,

I understand what you're saying as far as him being able to salvage the system and still being ahead in this situation. The problem is, that crack in the case should have been mentioned. Kim has been here long enough to know what info needs to be placed in a description. He also agreed to some form of reimbursement (shell replacement or cash). He didn't fulfill his end of the deal. I know you do not get along with Kenny..but, even you must admit that if Kim agreed to a reimbursement, that he shuold fulfill it regardless of if the person is Kenny or someone else. Otherwise anyone who reads this is going to think that as long as I only get over on one person it's okay.

Phillip

[NGT]

This is a hilarious......

First, he gets a deal on the system

Second, the system comes with this huge crack in it

Third, the deal does not get fixed

Fourth, he tries to expose the seller to help others and get the seller back

Fifth, the seller shows no remorse

Sixth, people come in and bash on the buyer because of what he intended to do with the system

Seventh, those same people try and gilt him into selling them the crack system for cheap after he said he didn't want to sell it a number of times.

Eight, I come in here and just start busting up laughing at the stupidity in general...... while feeling sorry for kenny a little bit because I know how it feels to buy something from somebody and have been not told that part of it is broken or missing

And last, both people will probably lose business in general because of this thread


:loco:

[Soilwork]

Time to put a lock on this thread.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by SonGohan
Time to put a lock on this thread.

Probably a good idea, so long as it stays "Sticky" for a while. :p

[Soilwork]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Probably a good idea, so long as it stays "Sticky" for a while. :p

Doesn't matter to me. I've dealt with Will before and everything went smoothly. From the email communication to the pics that were sent, he came through shining. I would not hesitate to deal with him again.

[FeelGood]

Hold on there, John,

You know what kind of gamer Kim is. He's a gamer - not a collector.

Wouldn't you then ask first before getting too far into a deal with him?

I mean, you never know if that crack just wasn't a big deal to Kim and he could live with it.

He omitted a large detail - did he lie about it?

He sold it as working, not as near mint.


Originally posted by JHendrix
So it's Kenny's fault for not asking for pics, but it's definitely not Kim's fault for having a completely misleading description for his item?

What a crock...

You seem bent out of shape that Kenny still got a good deal. But the whole friggin point is that Kim sold an item while not mentioning a major defect. That's why this was brought up.

Because of that, a lot of people won't deal with him now.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Bulletnyourass
EW,

I understand what you're saying as far as him being able to salvage the system and still being ahead in this situation. The problem is, that crack in the case should have been mentioned. Kim has been here long enough to know what info needs to be placed in a description. He also agreed to some form of reimbursement (shell replacement or cash). He didn't fulfill his end of the deal. I know you do not get along with Kenny..but, even you must admit that if Kim agreed to a reimbursement, that he shuold fulfill it regardless of if the person is Kenny or someone else. Otherwise anyone who reads this is going to think that as long as I only get over on one person it's okay.

Phillip

Kim said he would give money back, and I'm sure at one point he meant it. But there's something you should know - Kim is a bum. He doesn't have money coming in from Daddy like Kenny Boy. Even if he wanted to refund $35, he it would be pretty tough.

So when Kenny started crawling up his ass over the money and Kim gets pissed off, you think the deal is going to end smoothly?

I have no sympathy for Kenny there. Sure, he's entitled to $35 if Kim said he would, but the way Kenny handled himself here is totally immature and I'd be afraid to deal with him seeing how he dealt with Kim.

[SHO]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Kim said he would give money back, and I'm sure at one point he meant it. But there's something you should know - Kim is a bum. He doesn't have money coming in from Daddy like Kenny Boy. Even if he wanted to refund $35, he it would be pretty tough.

So when Kenny started crawling up his ass over the money and Kim gets pissed off, you think the deal is going to end smoothly?

I have no sympathy for Kenny there. Sure, he's entitled to $35 if Kim said he would, but the way Kenny handled himself here is totally immature and I'd be afraid to deal with him seeing how he dealt with Kim.

I'm sorry we do not look into people's back ground before we do trade or do business!

I have no idea Kim is a bum... and i'm sure all the newbies here does not know that either!

I am sincerly sorry that "I did not know Kim is a bum!"

and next time any body want to trade or buy from me

please ask about my family... my family income... how many bro sis i have... what age i am... what school i went to...

i am very very very very sorry for not giving these information

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Hold on there, John,

You know what kind of gamer Kim is. He's a gamer - not a collector.

Wouldn't you then ask first before getting too far into a deal with him?

I mean, you never know if that crack just wasn't a big deal to Kim and he could live with it.

He omitted a large detail - did he lie about it?

He sold it as working, not as near mint.

Whether he's a gamer or a collector it doesn't matter.

He omitted a large detail. It's misleading, it was wrong.

That's why he himself offered to fix the problem. He said it was wrong himself.

So first he messed up and then doesn't follow through with the fix he said he would.

I don't like dealing with people who leave out "large details" as you so eloquently put it. I don't like dealing with people who say they'll fix a problem they admit exists, and then never follow through on it.

I had no problems with Kim, I thought he was a stand up guy with good taste in music, but when you read what happened and all I see is him say how he won't follow through on this, and admit he was wrong in the first place - well I'm shocked because I thought he was better than that.

What's worse is you're defending him because you hate how Kenny makes money off the scene - legitly.

[SHO]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi

You know what kind of gamer Kim is. He's a gamer - not a collector.

Wouldn't you then ask first before getting too far into a deal with him?

I mean, you never know if that crack just wasn't a big deal to Kim and he could live with it.

He omitted a large detail - did he lie about it?

He sold it as working, not as near mint.

i am also sorry i forgot to ask what kind of gamer kim is!

so so so sorry... i am a fool... forget to ask these questions

[60Bucks]

Fucking jealous bitches what the fuck does this have to do with KB's business, sales, cash, who he fucks and who sucks his dick?

It has to do with the FACT that this motherfucker never even told him shit about that disaster of a fucking piece of shit neo. So fucking what if he got kof97 ect... HE PAYED FOR IT

Jealous fucks

[Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Kenny makes money off the scene - legitly.

Selling conversions is legit?

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Whether he's a gamer or a collector it doesn't matter.

He omitted a large detail. It's misleading, it was wrong.

That's why he himself offered to fix the problem. He said it was wrong himself.

So first he messed up and then doesn't follow through with the fix he said he would.

I don't like dealing with people who leave out "large details" as you so eloquently put it. I don't like dealing with people who say they'll fix a problem they admit exists, and then never follow through on it.

I had no problems with Kim, I thought he was a stand up guy with good taste in music, but when you read what happened and all I see is him say how he won't follow through on this, and admit he was wrong in the first place - well I'm shocked because I thought he was better than that.

What's worse is you're defending him because you hate how Kenny makes money off the scene - legitly.

I wouldn't defend Kim if I didn't feel that the situation progressed to this level because of Kenny's demand for the $35.

I mean, if you think Kim was going to find a new shell, you'd be out of yoru mind. Where would he find one of those? Electronics Boutique?

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by buttasuperb
Selling conversions is legit?

I don't follow Kenny's buisness very much other than when he puts out some new mod. If he's still selling conversions and SNKP frowns on it that's his problem, but considering that Shawn and most other large Neo retailers have sold them in the past I'd say it was legit.

Now it's a different story, but I was just refering to the whole modding systems thing to be honest.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
Fucking jealous bitches what the fuck does this have to do with KB's business, sales, cash, who he fucks and who sucks his dick?

It has to do with the FACT that this motherfucker never even told him shit about that disaster of a fucking piece of shit neo. So fucking what if he got kof97 ect... HE PAYED FOR IT

Jealous fucks

LOL - jealous of what?

Q: Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?

A: People like Kenny Boy.

Now go fuck yourself.

[SHO]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
I wouldn't defend Kim if I didn't feel that the situation progressed to this level because of Kenny's demand for the $35.

I mean, if you think Kim was going to find a new shell, you'd be out of yoru mind. Where would he find one of those? Electronics Boutique?

i am also sorry people make promises they can't keep

i am so so so sorry people can't keep promises, it is all my fault people can't keep promises

[Halox]

Summary for those who didn't want to read all nine pages of the thread. Kenny Boy was fucked out right, Kim is a dead beat prick, and EW is defending him because of some vendetta agains Kenny.


Kenny Boy modded my home system for a much better price than was offered by the pricks at Arcade, who treated me like my name was Stanley. He was professional, friendly, and all of the mods were very well done, and all worked.

Kim lost all respect from me with his reply to Kenny, and while I've always respected EW, I am haveing trouble understanding why he has been spouting such BS about this. I understand where Kenny Boy is coming from completely, and while he did get a good deal, the item didn't come as described, and the seller was to much of a bitch to make good on his promise. It looks pretty cut and dried to me.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
I wouldn't defend Kim if I didn't feel that the situation progressed to this level because of Kenny's demand for the $35.

I mean, if you think Kim was going to find a new shell, you'd be out of yoru mind. Where would he find one of those? Electronics Boutique?

So it's Kenny's fault that he believed Kim when he said he'd find him a new shell for the system?

It's ok for Kim to lie about finding him a new shell, but Kenny's wrong for believing him?

Kim was in the wrong, he said himself he was. He said he was going to make it right, now he says "fuck you".

That's a problem wouldn't you say?

[60Bucks]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
LOL - jealous of what?

Q: Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?

A: People like Kenny Boy.

Now go fuck yourself.

Motherfucker if you dont got the cash you get no motherfucking hash

Go cry like a baby and stick to playstation or nintendo even haha

[BaaL]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Kim said he would give money back, and I'm sure at one point he meant it. But there's something you should know - Kim is a bum. He doesn't have money coming in from Daddy like Kenny Boy. Even if he wanted to refund $35, he it would be pretty tough.

So when Kenny started crawling up his ass over the money and Kim gets pissed off, you think the deal is going to end smoothly?

I have no sympathy for Kenny there. Sure, he's entitled to $35 if Kim said he would, but the way Kenny handled himself here is totally immature and I'd be afraid to deal with him seeing how he dealt with Kim.

The whole point of this thread is to warn people that K_K:

A: Has been know to BLATANTLY mislead people in his discriptions

and

B: That he does not follow through on his promises.

It's to bad for Kim that he is some sort of bum, but last time I checked I saw now mention on the forum rules that it is O.K. to lie and scam on a selling thread as long as the end result is to subsidize a bum.

Now you are suggesting that Kenny Boy is somehow "immature" because he let everyone know that K_K is, in fact, a bum and might need to scam in order to pull in a few extra bucks? How you can say that KB's posts are childish without making any mention to K_K's is beyond me, but then again you do appear to have a selective bias when posting on these threads. I would say that Kenny Boy did us a service. Thanks again.

[Liquid Snake]

Originally posted by JHendrix
God this is dumb.

It's not wrong to make a profit by modding Neo's and selling them.

KPJ really had no reason for being upset over getting a working $30 home system, even with a giant crack in it. Problem is, there was some dishonesty there, Kim even admitted that (read the first post). He offered a fix and didn't deliver. Between not stating the condition of a VERY beat up system and not delivering on a fix he said he would he's in the wrong here.

It's NOT wrong for KPJ to keep the system, find a new shell, mod it, and sell it for a nice big profit.

Agreed.

[SHO]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
LOL - jealous of what?

Q: Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?

A: People like Kenny Boy.

Now go fuck yourself.

I am so so so so sorry... we into neo games

i am so sorry i have money to burn

i am so sorry i am willing to pay high prices for my games

i am so sorry we dont know how to fuck ourself

and i am so sorry you prob have some high price carts too... and he was willing to pay for those... and the high price cart he bought has nothing to do with kenny

[MsPacBitchy]

Wow... some of you guys are real dicks.

Regardless of what you think of Kenny, he got screwed in a major way. Look at that crack! A DETAIL?

Kim/Will is a bullshit scammer with no balls and a fucking kazoo up his ass, blowing fart songs. :blow_top:

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
LOL - jealous of what?

Q: Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?

A: People like Kenny Boy.

Now go fuck yourself.

My god, so now it's Kenny's fault that Neo games cost a lot?

Have you even looked at the Neostore's prices? Much higher than Kenny's are at least as far as modded systems went when I was in the market for one.

Not that Shawn or Kenny or whoever the fuck can't charge whatever prices they want. They can charge those prices, and actually SELL at those prices because they can be trusted for quality, etc.

And this isn't even to just pick on Shawn, cause the man does a great job of running his store. He does have high prices, but when you deal with the best you pay the price for it. There are plenty of other reputable sellers out there who do the same friggin thing - and are just as justified in doing so.

[NGT]

Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?


Because they are made in low quantity, many are great games that not many people own, and they have always been sold when they first come out from between $200 and $325 or so.


:rolleyes:

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
Motherfucker if you dont got the cash you get no motherfucking hash

Go cry like a baby and stick to playstation or nintendo even haha

UM... $60

You know how many neo geo games I still own in better condition than you'd ever find?

You're a newb with no clue what you're talking about or who you're talking to, so I'll ignore your idiocy.

The prices of neo games have been high for a while. Gouging the already high prices isn't something you want to defend though.

[Kpj]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
LOL - jealous of what?

Q: Ever wonder why you need to pay so much for neo games?

A: People like Kenny Boy.

Now go fuck yourself.

Charlie,

Your ship has sunk. You have been exposed. You need to shut your mouth before you make yourself looking even dumber; which will be hard to top.

You are a poor, poor man. You don't even have the decency to defend the right party due to personal differences.

You must have alot of friends. Grow up....fast

[SHO]

i have no fucking idea why Evilwasabi is even defending him

he obviously has no brain power to anaylse this situation

at least most ppl here realise...just look at the bloody photo... if that was my neo i would cry

[SHO]

Originally posted by NGT
Because they are made in low quantity, many are great games that not many people own, and they have always been sold when they first come out from between $200 and $325 or so.


:rolleyes:

you are spot on my friend!

so neo store selling SSV for over $300... thats kenny's fault?

[BaaL]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
I wouldn't defend Kim if I didn't feel that the situation progressed to this level because of Kenny's demand for the $35.

I mean, if you think Kim was going to find a new shell, you'd be out of yoru mind. Where would he find one of those? Electronics Boutique?

I think you got to the root of the problem here. Its a pain in the ass look around and find a new case, especially in the light that you were not expecting to have to in the first place. If Kim didn't want to have to deal with this then he would have given an accurate description when he sold it. He would also not have made a promise to go find a new one after the fact. Kim created this problem, not Kenny Boy. Stop trying to defend the indefendable

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by BaaL

Now you are suggesting that Kenny Boy is somehow "immature" because he let everyone know that K_K is, in fact, a bum and might need to scam in order to pull in a few extra bucks? How you can say that KB's posts are childish without making any mention to K_K's is beyond me, but then again you do appear to have a selective bias when posting on these threads. I would say that Kenny Boy did us a service. Thanks again.

No, I'm suggessting he's immature because he's stating his experience as the fact for the future - that Kim will scam people. Sorry, but the world does not yet revolve around Kenny Boy.

Anyhow, the best service you can do for yourself is not simply avoiding certain sellers - but being more careful in dealing with people and asking for detailed descriptions and picture of anything you want to buy. Not like you'd buy anything from Kim in the future anyways - I mean, how often does he sell stuff?

[SHO]

I think we can gather that Evilwasabi doesnt like kenny boy

thats why he stands on the otherside!

[BaaL]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
UM... $60

You know how many neo geo games I still own in better condition than you'd ever find?

You're a newb with no clue what you're talking about or who you're talking to, so I'll ignore your idiocy.

The prices of neo games have been high for a while. Gouging the already high prices isn't something you want to defend though.

The reason the prices are so high right now is because there are only a few carts to go around for a huge amount of demand. Who wouldn't want a Metal SLug, Blazing Star or MotW? The great demand for the titles is what is driving up the prices, not Kenny Boy.

[60Bucks]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
UM... $60

You know how many neo geo games I still own in better condition than you'd ever find?

You're a newb with no clue what you're talking about or who you're talking to, so I'll ignore your idiocy.

The prices of neo games have been high for a while. Gouging the already high prices isn't something you want to defend though.
ok bitch 1st thing im might be a newb to this site but not to the neo 2nd thing i know who im talking to ''MY BITCH'' now get back on the street and make me some cash so i can buy some shit off KB :)

[BaaL]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
No, I'm suggessting he's immature because he's stating his experience as the fact for the future - that Kim will scam people. Sorry, but the world does not yet revolve around Kenny Boy.

Anyhow, the best service you can do for yourself is not simply avoiding certain sellers - but being more careful in dealing with people and asking for detailed descriptions and picture of anything you want to buy. Not like you'd buy anything from Kim in the future anyways - I mean, how often does he sell stuff?

The same argument could be made about Aaron Lewis; sure, he screwed some people in the past, but hey, maybe you will be lucky and get a good deal with him in the future. If you do not hold people accountable for their past actions then you basically give them a free ticket to do whatever they want.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by Kenny Boy
Charlie,

Your ship has sunk. You have been exposed. You need to shut your mouth before you make yourself looking even dumber; which will be hard to top.

You are a poor, poor man. You don't even have the decency to defend the right party due to personal differences.

You must have alot of friends. Grow up....fast

This isn't about personal differences. I'm defending Kim because he's my friend and I know he wouldn't tell you that he's glad you got scammed unless you drove him to it by being obnoxious.

There was a time he had every intention of paying you that refund, but you pushed him at the wrong time. Now you want to get sympathy for it.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
This isn't about personal differences. I'm defending Kim because he's my friend and I know he wouldn't tell you that he's glad you got scammed unless you drove him to it by being obnoxious.

There was a time he had every intention of paying you that refund, but you pushed him at the wrong time. Now you want to get sympathy for it.

Always act nice to the person who messed up your deal, because if you push their buttons at the wrong time they might not make the deal go right.

Bullshit.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
ok bitch 1st thing im might be a newb to this site but not to the neo 2nd thing i know who im talking to ''MY BITCH'' now get back on the street and make me some cash so i can buy some shit off KB :)

I'm sorry, but if you didn't notice, I was being pretty polite with you in that last response. I'm not in the mood for jokes after all the shit I've taken for speaking in defence of my friend.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by JHendrix
Always act nice to the person who messed up your deal, because if you push their buttons at the wrong time they might not make the deal go right.

Bullshit.

You could say that, but you know you're distorting the situation.

Fine, you guys can all go hate on Kim _Kaphwan now. I can't say I don't care, but you're all idiots.

[60Bucks]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
This isn't about personal differences. I'm defending Kim because he's my friend and I know he wouldn't tell you that he's glad you got scammed unless you drove him to it by being obnoxious.

There was a time he had every intention of paying you that refund, but you pushed him at the wrong time. Now you want to get sympathy for it.

''I'm defending Kim because he's my friend''


Ok now who would a lawyer defend? Your wrong and you know it.

[Halox]

EW, I don't really see as there was anything to defend. At least it is pretty clear to me that he screwed him straight up.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by BaaL
The same argument could be made about Aaron Lewis; sure, he screwed some people in the past, but hey, maybe you will be lucky and get a good deal with him in the future. If you do not hold people accountable for their past actions then you basically give them a free ticket to do whatever they want.

No - your mistake here is that you are using the plural.

If I hold Kim Kaphwan accountable to his past actions, then you can bet your ass I'd give him another shot.

Most of you are just rabble that likes to converge on any thread that includes the words scammer. Too bad though, because Kim isn't a scammer. He had a single bad deal and a ton of good ones. Have fun roasting him for it. I hope it makes you feel like real men.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
''I'm defending Kim because he's my friend''


Ok now who would a lawyer defend? Your wrong and you know it.

Please, God, why is it that every one of these kids against me can't distinguish between "your" and "you're"?

[SML]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
ok bitch 1st thing im might be a newb to this site but not to the neo 2nd thing i know who im talking to ''MY BITCH'' now get back on the street and make me some cash so i can buy some shit off KB :)

Hilarious, enjoy folding bills on the island.

[Halox]

But he has the opportunity to make the deal right, he has chosen not to. That is the problem in my eyes.

[SHO]

a bad deal is a bad deal

i can do lots of low cost good deal and fuck up 1 high value deal...

make sense?

[FeelGood]

I'm repeating myself, I know - he chose not to because Kenny pushed him the wrong way and got Kim to the point that he didn't care to fix the situation anymore.

[60Bucks]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Please, God, why is it that every one of these kids against me can't distinguish between "your" and "you're"?

Cuz ''YOUR'' BITCH sucks good dick and my hands are having touble typin :mr_t:

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by SHO
a bad deal is a bad deal

i can do lots of low cost good deal and fuck up 1 high value deal...

make sense?

lol - this was not a high value deal.

did you read the whole thing. Kenny Boy practically got that neo for free.

[Halox]

I understand. I just don't think that justifies it.

[JHendrix]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
You could say that, but you know you're distorting the situation.

Fine, you guys can all go hate on Kim _Kaphwan now. I can't say I don't care, but you're all idiots.

I'm not distorting the situation at all. Kim messed up, and because Kenny kept asking him about it and was getting annoyed Kim's now mad and won't go fix the problem he admitted exists.

I don't hate the man, if I hated the man I'd have gone in on all that bullshit KK & MD stuff, but I didn't. I thought the guy was pretty friggin cool, cause he always was back in chat when he was around and on the boards. But this shit is stupid, I don't care how much of an asshole someone is, if you messed up on a deal you fix it.

I figured he was man enough to do that.

[FeelGood]

Originally posted by 60Bucks
Cuz ''YOUR'' BITCH sucks good dick and my hands are having touble typin :mr_t:

Fuck it. You're toast.

[BaaL]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Please, God, why is it that every one of these kids against me can't distinguish between "your" and "you're"?

Please note this:


Originally posted by EvilWasabi
No - your mistake here is that you are using the plural.

If I hold Kim Kaphwan accountable to his past actions, then you can bet your ass I'd give him another shot.

Most of you are just rabble that likes to converge on any thread that includes the words scammer. Too bad though, because Kim isn't a scammer. He had a single bad deal and a ton of good ones. Have fun roasting him for it. I hope it makes you feel like real men.

You should profread your post before you start going on about grammatical errors.

[Nash]

Originally posted by EvilWasabi
Please, God, why is it that every one of these kids against me can't distinguish between "your" and "you're"?

that has been driving me crazy!

[Halox]

You should profread your post before you start going on about grammatical errors.

:eek_2: