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Arcademan said:

I've already mentioned I'm the official world record holder on 1943. Other great achievments include going through all the levels of SideArms and UNSquadron on one credit and scoring 1 million on a factory-set Sinistar

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what is your high score on 1943? You know it's not really the world record if it's not higher than the Japanese Gamest record...

1 million on Sinistar though?? sweet merciful crap.

I had an interesting shooting-game experience this weekend. There's a pool hall around here that has Strikers 1945 III, which is obviously one of my favorite shooters EVER now. So I stop by there to play a couple games, because while emulators might be nice there's no substitute for the real thing. I walk in and find that someone left a credit in the machine. On that free game I managed to beat the 1,144,700 score I left on the machine around two years ago with a score of 1,198,200. I was already satisfied.

I went off to play something else, and when I came back there were these two guys playing through the game. They seemed to enjoy the game, but weren't very good at it... using a lot of continues. One of them stopped playing while the other just kept continuing through to the end. Around the time he finally beat the boss on 1-8, he left the machine. I suck bad at the second loop so I just suicided his last ship and started a new game.

So, I'm playing it again. One of the guys that was playing watches me play, and when I beat the 1-1 boss I heard him say "Whoa, Technical Bonus" and called his friend over. "This guy is tearing it up!"

That guy asked me a lot of questions about Technical Bonus, medal chaining, all that stuff. He asked me what happens at the end of the second loop and I said "I dunno, I've never tried to go that far, I only play the game on one quarter. I can finish the first loop most of the time at least". He obviously couldn't believe that. And so I played on.

What a perfect time to finish the first loop on one life.

It was my best performance ever on the first loop. After destroying the last boss he said "Duuuuuuude! Props!" and gave me a high five. It was such a great ego boost hearing him tell someone else "I thought I was pretty good at this game when I could finish it on 5 credits, and this guy fucking does it on one life!"

(too bad I ended up completely fucking up 2-1 and lost all four of my lives there. )

it was so great to see people who genuinely appreciated shooting game skills. I NEVER run into people like that around here.

And that is my story for the week.

My highest score on 1943 is 2,947,360...1 million points higher than the next highest posted score as tracked by the Twin Galaxies Intergalactic Scoreboard. The reason for such a high score? There is a 'hidden' point icon on the end of all of the battleships worth 100,000 points and that's all I can reveal about it. When I reported and verified the high score way back in 1988, a programmer from Capcom asked me how I got such a high score. I told him and he verified the 'trick' I found.

Arcademan said:

My highest score on 1943 is 2,947,360...1 million points higher than the next highest posted score as tracked by the Twin Galaxies Intergalactic Scoreboard. The reason for such a high score? There is a 'hidden' point icon on the end of all of the battleships worth 100,000 points and that's all I can reveal about it. When I reported and verified the high score way back in 1988, a programmer from Capcom asked me how I got such a high score. I told him and he verified the 'trick' I found.

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Okay... well, according to the list I have, the Gamest record for 1943 is 3,701,310. And there are two recordings at the MAME Action Replay Page that are over 3 million. 2,947,360 is still a great score though! Just not the "true" world record now. It's certainly better than me, I can't beat the last battleship.

The 100k spacemen are completely random, I think?

So can anyone post examples of monitors (Maybe from
stores like Best Buy etc...) that I can buy?
It has to be a LCD or Plasma but that can be set
horizontally and vertically for shooters...
At my work there's a bunch of NEW ViewSonic Flat LCD monitors,
I may take one of those, but I need advice here.

xtoo_short20x said:

So can anyone post examples of monitors (Maybe from
stores like Best Buy etc...) that I can buy?
It has to be a LCD or Plasma but that can be set
horizontally and vertically for shooters...
At my work there's a bunch of NEW ViewSonic Flat LCD monitors,
I may take one of those, but I need advice here.

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xtoo_short20x said:

So can anyone post examples of monitors (Maybe from
stores like Best Buy etc...) that I can buy?
It has to be a LCD or Plasma but that can be set
horizontally and vertically for shooters...
At my work there's a bunch of NEW ViewSonic Flat LCD monitors,
I may take one of those, but I need advice here.

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I would recommend getting an LCD that has a 16ms refresh (these are fairly new; most tend to be 20ms or slower) and has a built-in pivot for an easy tate mode.

I would avoid plasma for gaming, since they are prone to burn-in and aren't well suited for videogames.

Radiant silvergun is my new crack, for years i was like shooters are meh. I started cheating with an action replay and realized shooters are not meh , it was more of me sucking so bad they were not fun. Now that i'm an omega cheater I can't stop playing it .

BBH said:

1 million on Sinistar though?? sweet merciful crap.

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Funny but true story about Sinistar. The place I played it all the time was kind of frustrating me...I was dying way too fast on that game however over a period of time I was passing many waves in it. Then the owner of the arcade showed me the setting on the game...he had it on HARDEST!!!

Played a factory-set game and found that I could cruise through it easy. Went to another game room when I hit the 1 million score, then found out that arcade had a contest that gave the first person to break a million $100 cash!

Too bad I did it one week after the contest. Still, the arcade gave me $25 in tokens which to me at the time was as good as money

BTW this was before anyone found out the "win 255 free ships" bug in the game

BBH said:

Okay... well, according to the list I have, the Gamest record for 1943 is 3,701,310. And there are two recordings at the MAME Action Replay Page that are over 3 million. 2,947,360 is still a great score though! Just not the "true" world record now. It's certainly better than me, I can't beat the last battleship.

The 100k spacemen are completely random, I think?

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Well, it WAS 15 years ago since I posted that score

In theory, if you play a straight game without finding any hidden powerups and objects, you can score roughly 2,000,000 points. Finding all of the mounds and strawberries and barrels can jack up the score quite a bit. Also destroying the battleships causes an explosion in which four pieces fly up and are worth 10,000 each. The spaceman isn't a random thing. It's based on the order that the turrets and guns are destroyed on a ship (It's been so long I don't have a clue WHAT the patterns are...15 years, remember?)

As long as you don't destroy more than 70% (I think) of the battleship, you'll have to redo the level which you can rack up a few more points too. Holding down the A button after a level gives you a hidden weapon full charge but man, you don't want that lame-ass shotgun

Baseley09 said:

Nice to see someone with sense, people are usually blinded saying blah blah 2D Saturn blah. Yes for the fighters 100% Saturn, most other 2D titles are exactly the same, sometimes better or worse than Saturn, basically PSX is just as good for this, and there is more choice on the machine.PSX gets too much bad presss, unfounded.

Never underestimate the power of the Playstation

Now go buy some cool import PSX stuff bitches.

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basely you are always the voice of reason amongst these foolish fanboys.
heres some amazing import psx shit that i've got.(shoot em ups ,beat emups puzzlers)

zanac x zanac
strikers 1945 2 (better than saturn)
donpachi( better than saturn)
kyuinn
harmful park
panzer bandit
gunners heaven
raiden dx
r-types
internal section
zoko gussun oyoyo
pastel muses
silhouette mirage (jap version is mebbes even betterthan saturn dont listen to the fanboys,avoid us version tho)
night raid
gradius gaiden
umikawase syuin 2nd edition

now any 2d fan who turns his nose up at stuff like this is a total plonker and thats just the games i've tried theres still loads for me to find .
you can usually pick most of these up for peanuts(not all obviously) as well if you know people in japan

Thanks for the kind words Baseley09.

prinsecharles said:

zanac x zanac
strikers 1945 2 (better than saturn)
donpachi( better than saturn)
kyuinn
harmful park
panzer bandit
gunners heaven
raiden dx
r-types
internal section
zoko gussun oyoyo
pastel muses
silhouette mirage (jap version is mebbes even betterthan saturn dont listen to the fanboys,avoid us version tho)
night raid
gradius gaiden
umikawase syuin 2nd edition

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Great list prinsecharles, reads like my PSX collection (+ or - one or two). Off the top of my head I'd also add Senkyu, Captain Commando, Toaplan Shooting Battle, Poy Poy and Rakugaki Showtime as well.

For shooter fans tho, Harmful Park is an absolute must to check out, same goes with Gradius Gaiden, Raiden DX, and Zanac X Zanac. I'd also say the same for TSBv1, but it's a bit tougher to track down. Kyuin is visually amazing, but I find the gameplay somewhat bland and lacking. Still need to pick up Night Raid

Lotsa pixellated 2D in that list, eh?

definitely i just wish more people sold games like these on ebay uk because no one checks for import psone games that much and the prices always end real low.buying from japan is best but you end up paying as much for the e.m.s as you do for the games themselves (if you live in uk anyways)
haven't really played kyuinn much but from the few levels i've played i had a laugh .
dedicated too much time to 1 credit the 1st loop of dodonpachi the last 2 months
i really want toaplan shooting battle but i play all mine on a chipped ps2 and i don't think it's meant to work on ps2s
someone said the same about gradius gaiden but the new psonebooks release works fine on mine

I don't remember who was asking, but Progear is really not too hard to find. The US version was only made on order, so there are quite few available. The non US versions are plenty available.

I would just ask PCB retailers if they can get it. Unfortunatly it is not a very popular US game. You should be able to find it for $350 or less.

Shapermc said:

I don't remember who was asking, but Progear is really not too hard to find. The US version was only made on order, so there are quite few available. The non US versions are plenty available.

I would just ask PCB retailers if they can get it. Unfortunatly it is not a very popular US game. You should be able to find it for $350 or less.

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Hmm, I've been meaning to pick this one up for some time as well. Less than $350 sounds pretty good, it's between this game or just springing for AvP, which I really want.

princecharles: your correct, TSBv1 won't run correctly on the PS2, it will play like it's in underwater mode (basically everything crawls along very slowly). I've been meaning to pick up a replacement PSone for that (kinda waiting for the screen & console combo to come down a bit in price). Also, iirc it's one of the later stages of Gradius Gaiden that the game has a problem with the PS2 (but from what you're saying it sounds like it was fixed for the PS books re-release... Have you played through the entire game without any problems?). I'll have to try that out with my copy (I got the first edition) next time I get back home.

Shapermc said:

I don't remember who was asking, but Progear is really not too hard to find. The US version was only made on order, so there are quite few available. The non US versions are plenty available.

I would just ask PCB retailers if they can get it. Unfortunatly it is not a very popular US game. You should be able to find it for $350 or less.

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I'm looking for an Eng version of course. Where?

IIRC, I think it was TRIEU who was selling a bunch of the US kits what seems like ages ago.

ST-V said:

IIRC, I think it was TRIEU who was selling a bunch of the US kits what seems like ages ago.

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The US Kit goes for about $600, no?

I am such a newbie - I don't really have many shmups to speak about.. I feel very over welmed by how many quality shmups are out there....

xtoo_short20x said:

The US Kit goes for about $600, no?

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Hmm, honestly, not sure exactly what price that kit would go for nowadays, maybe you can find someone who'd part with it at that price? I remember TRIEU had a Progear kit somewhat recently for around a similiar price, but I didn't look into it because the price was just too much for me at the time. Wish I could help you out there.

ST-V said:

Hmm, honestly, not sure exactly what price that kit would go for nowadays, maybe you can find someone who'd part with it at that price? I remember TRIEU had a Progear kit somewhat recently for around a similiar price, but I didn't look into it because the price was just too much for me at the time. Wish I could help you out there.

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Yes, it was $600. Lose boards probably go for $250+?

hows this Super Star Soldier Gamecube shooter?

i saw it at an import shop for $30

thanks all

abdul said:

hows this Super Star Soldier Gamecube shooter?

i saw it at an import shop for $30

thanks all

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Very good for $30 bucks. I did a review on this a while back. Use the search engine and you should find it.

Here you go:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35417&highlight=Star+soldier

thanks

gonna pick it up along with a boot disk tommorow

BUMP for a badass thread

So, lately I have been playing DoDonpachi Dai-Ou-Jou alot. Kind of gearing myself up for ESPGaluda, and what I have realized is this. I suck really really bad at shmups, but I love them nonetheless.

Do any of you guys find this game hard as well, or is it just because of my lack of teh skillz at shooters? I'm ok for the first couple of levels, but then the bullet patterns escape me. The screen seems to fill up faster than I can keep up with, and I just get outpaced by enemy fire, and end up trapped in a corner with nowhere to go. Watching the DVD that came with the game makes me feel even worse. The guy playing in that vid is sick! He combos into the 2000s, and I can't even get up above 800

Anyone else think the game is tough, or just me....?

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