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Mike
12-21-2003, 06:54 PM
:mad:

Ok lads, I have only had to make 2 other posts in the entire 3, almost 4 years that I have been on neo-geo.com about bad buyers/sellers. I have been lucky.

However- we have a new nOOb buyer to look out for!

His handle is:

NintendoSpy

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NintendoSpy A.K.A. Andy Miller A.K.A.

andy_wwf57@yahoo.com

agreed to purchase the following:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=74162&referrerid=8

And after much long deliberation when I had taken the time to explain in full detail about the system, exchange of pictures and other such NooB questions such as:

What is a BIOS?
It's a U.S. system, so what is it's default language?
What does a language switch do?
ect...ect..

Andy decided that he would purchase the neo:

"I want to buy it, do you have any games to sell also?"

Upon the agreement to sell and purchase, I get the following email:

"Can I send you a depost, and then you send me the system? Then after I get it I can send you the rest of the payment?"

:eye: :eye:

After pondering this, I decided that since he was a nooB, and seems really interested in the neo I would cut him a deal and accept partial payment now, followed by the remainder of the payment and then I would ship. Andy agreed:

Andy Miller wrote:
> > > sounds good Mike, I can send the $100 this
> > weekend,
> > > I'll let you know when I do. Then, next Friday,
> > I'l
> > > send the remaining $205. When you receive that,
> > you
> > > send the system, is that correct? Are you okay
> > > waiting until next weekend to get payment?

This weekend I returned to discover 2 new emails in my inbox:

"Is the system US by default?"

And -

"I think you're charging me too much, $300 seems like a
lot, I thought the BIOS chip was installed, but now
that I know it's not. It seems a bit steep, are you
willing to negotiate a little bit, because after
looking up what similar systems go for, I think this
is a little bit high."

Are you kidding me? How many times did I tell you that the language switch was NOT activated? 4 Times?

HELL man...

LOOK AT THE ORIGIONAL DESCRIPTION!


Because I tried to do a Noob a favor, I missed out on selling the system to 2 other people. Get your shit together Andy, or this community will eat you up and spit you out.

Then he posts me as a bad seller....:lol:

:very_ang: :very_ang: AVOID :very_ang: :very_ang:

SnkChef
12-21-2003, 07:12 PM
Now thats some bullshit.Sorry to hear that Mike,he has some stuff in the everything else selling forum.I should spam his thread.

SHO
12-21-2003, 07:29 PM
so you only received $100 so far?

thats terrible man.

shouldn't accept partial payment........

noob are not trustable....although i'm one too :tickled:

but i do sell stuff on ebay.... no post until payment!

Mike
12-21-2003, 07:30 PM
I DIDN'T EVEN RECIEVE PARTIAL PAYMENT!

If it does arrive, I'm sending it straight back!

Ghost-Dog, presented by TervisŪ
12-21-2003, 07:31 PM
Sorry to hear you had a problem Mike, but I think most people here know you are rock solid in your deals.

Mike
12-21-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Ghost-Dog
Sorry to hear you had a problem Mike, but I think most people here know you are rock solid in your deals.

Thanks for the props Ghost-Dog, but what you say is not true
according to Nintendospy's last email:

"No, I'm not a noob. I have all the money, I don't
wanna be ripped off by someone like you. "






:eek_2:

SnkChef
12-21-2003, 07:43 PM
:lol: :lol: Then why buy the system in the first place??Didnt you get enough pics to agree to buy it???Wat an idiot!!!!!:lol:

Ghost-Dog, presented by TervisŪ
12-21-2003, 07:49 PM
This is your description, right?


"Neo Geo Home System U.S.
Mint console. Comes complete with near mint box and all packing materials. All origional documents are included. Includes 2 like new Old Style sticks. Styrofoam packaging and all plastic baggies are included.

System is in mint cosmetic shape. A language switch has been installed(by previous owner) but has not been activated.

$270.00 (shipping by UPS - around $25 for shipping)"

A minty AES with box, styrofoam and two old controllers? With a language switch? That's a very reasonable price, so I don't see what he was complaining about..

BIG
12-21-2003, 08:00 PM
Sorry to hear about this,Mike.

I think $300 for a boxed and complete system in excellent condition is more than fair.

I did a trade with this guy a few months back,and what I got in return,was an experience similar to yours.

What I got was a game that was in worse condition than described. The poor packaging job didn't help,neither,as the game suffered more damage while in transit.

I thought to myself "No biggie,this isn't the end of the world".

A few weeks later,he posted a negative feedback about our trade in one of my threads,stating that I sent him a defective game,trying to flip the script.

Now,I'm the bad guy..go figure :rolleyes:


Avoid this POS like a plague...

You have been warned.

Alex0916
12-21-2003, 08:07 PM
I always knew something was fishy about him. Never did trust a spy a Nintendo one at that.

norton9478
12-21-2003, 08:26 PM
IT's funny he only wanted to send partial payment... Becuase he asked for refs and they were outstanding.

Mike
12-21-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by norton9478
IT's funny he only wanted to send partial payment... Becuase he asked for refs and they were outstanding.

Yea...I forgot about that.

Mike
12-21-2003, 08:47 PM
I would have NEVER agreed to it, but imagine if I had sent him the system and then he changed his mind about how much he thought I was over-charging?

I would have been screwed.

:mad_2:

galfordo
12-21-2003, 08:55 PM
Hey Mike,

Sorry to hear about your deal going sour - if you say that nintendospy is a shitty trader then I'd have to take your side by default.

norton9478
12-21-2003, 09:45 PM
When I first started on the forums... I was in talks with another user to sell them a supergun..... They scoffed when i told them they would at least have to put my materials cost up front. But it worked out because I later found that they didn't have the cash to buy something else.... I woulda gotten screwed.

That's why in all cash transactions, I ask for the full fee up front.

KaedesBlade
12-21-2003, 09:54 PM
Nintendospy added to my block list.

rimm_rs
12-22-2003, 01:05 AM
Mike,

I agree that sucks. You're a REALLY good guy. Glad nothing shipped...

I am running the MS5 preorder campain and this guy CAN sign up (as can ANYONE), but he will have to send payment 30 days before in full or he will NOT be included.

-Ryan

BlackSpy
12-22-2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Alex0916
I always knew something was fishy about him. Never did trust a spy a Nintendo one at that.

There is nothing wrong with spies, you'll not find a blemish on me as a buyer or a seller.

This guy sounds like a comedian though, I've had plenty 'buyers' like him lately.

Soilwork
12-22-2003, 08:58 AM
Thanks for the heads up as I was checking out some of his selling threads as it was.

jp2k4
12-22-2003, 02:24 PM
Yeah, I had a problem with nintendospy too. He asked me to hold some games for him that I was selling cause he was going to get back to me the next day.Of course he never got back to me and after sending him a pm he said he didnt want them anymore. Thats the least he could have done was let me know that he didnt want them anymore, I had people interested in them that moved on because I was holding them.:very_ang: :very_ang: :mad_2: :mad_2:

nintendospy
12-22-2003, 05:35 PM
^I told you I wasn't interested. Total Bullshit.


I'm a bad person?, that's why I have flawless feedback at IGN (in sig) and here so far (refs in sig). Mike, you sold the system before you received my e-mail confirming me sending payment, I tell you I'm mailing $100, you say "I found someone to pay all of it at once". BS. You may have a good reputation, and that's why you're getting the benefit on the doubt, but you were wrong here, not me.

nintendospy
12-22-2003, 06:02 PM
My IGN feedback in case you're not registered at IGN:

"fast payment, friendly, great trader. thanks again "

"Awesome trader, I traded him for some PS games and they arrived quick and were MINT.
Thankssssssss "

"great buyer. Received payment very quickly. Very nice guy and easy to communicate with. Felt comfortable during the entire transaction. Wish all trades would go this smoothly = ) "

"great trader, stuff got here in matter of days, notice you've changed your icon"

"Great trader, sent MO as soon as he recieved it. Hope to do business with you agian man. "

"Very fast payment and always in communication. Mailed out money order same day I mailed out package. Super duper IGN user over in this hizzouse. "

"Excellent trader. Sent the game and the money very quickly. Everything arrived as described.
Highly recommended."

EDIT:You can also talk to any of the people in my sig I've done deals with, I am a good person to do business with.

Mike
12-22-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by nintendospy
^I told you I wasn't interested. Total Bullshit.


I'm a bad person?, that's why I have flawless feedback at IGN (in sig) and here so far (refs in sig). Mike, you sold the system before you received my e-mail confirming me sending payment, I tell you I'm mailing $100, you say "I found someone to pay all of it at once". BS. You may have a good reputation, and that's why you're getting the benefit on the doubt, but you were wrong here, not me.

Wrong again asshole!

I told you:

"Dude.....at this point you are wasting my time. I am going to sell the system to someone that can pay for the system at once"

I never sold the system, and I never told you I did. Infact, I am looking at it right now.

You are a liar and someone that nobody on this board should do business with.

Why send $100 when you just emailed me saying that you have all the money!

Keep those lies comin'.

And look what we have here! Another unsatisfied person that you have dealt with.

It's time for you to leave neo-geo.com

:angry:

nintendospy
12-22-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Mike
Wrong again asshole!

I told you:

"Dude.....at this point you are wasting my time. I am going to sell the system to someone that can pay for the system at once"

I never sold the system, and I never told you I did. Infact, I am looking at it right now.

You are a liar and someone that nobody on this board should do business with.

Why send $100 when you just emailed me saying that you have all the money!

Keep those lies comin'.

And look what we have here! Another unsatisfied person that you have dealt with.

It's time for you to leave neo-geo.com

:angry:

You never told me you were going to sell it to someone else, I never lied to you, and I'd send $100 so I know that I'm not gonna get ripped off, which has been done here on this site a few times.

Mike
12-22-2003, 07:08 PM
No. You are still trying to lie.

I told you that I wouldn't have shipped you the system until you made the full payment.

How would you sending $100 first, then the rest later on before I shipped the system prevent you in any way of getting ripped off by me? -which would never happen.

It's over man. Just stop. You are making it worse.

Liquid Snake
12-22-2003, 07:47 PM
Must be some miscommunication here and there.

Nintendospy and I had a great transaction.

Hopefully you two can solve the problem soon

bokmeow
12-22-2003, 07:47 PM
Ohhhh...... when you mentioned 'Andy Miller' I knew I saw that name from SNK-Capcom.com. He contacted me about Wonderswan games that I had for sale, but after 2 email follow ups he completely ignored my emails. I'm glad I didn't move on his selling thread now. Thanks for the heads up Mike.

nintendospy
12-23-2003, 03:58 PM
thanks LS, and bokmeow, I don't remember contacting you. Mike, by sending $100, I could verify you received that, then send the rest, instead of you saying you never received my $300. It's something small, but it would've helped prevent me getting ripped off.

SHO
12-23-2003, 06:10 PM
what is the point of sending partial payment anyway?

the buyer will still have to send the same amount

can the buyer not just keep the 1st payment in the account and then send it together?

nintendospy
12-23-2003, 06:12 PM
^you must mean paypal, I pay with money orders, I don't have Paypal.

You can send partial, then you can verify they received that, then send the rest, it makes sense to me to do this with large transactions.

Mike
12-23-2003, 10:15 PM
You are a fucking moron.

What sense does that make?


If I were going to rip you off (which I have never done to anyone) why would I settle for $100?

You are trying to put up smoke and mirrors. It won't get you far.

You are to be AVOIDED.

In every post you make on this board about buying and selling, I will post a link to this thread.

joe_higashi19
01-09-2004, 02:52 PM
Mike i think your right this nintendospy is deff a asshole lier and would have screwd you in the end but not all noobs are bad.

I did extensive research on the neo befor getting into a deal with dojosky and the more i read about the neo the more i wanted one so i bought a big package deal from him no feedback to my name except my gametz and ebay which in my opinion dont count since they arnt this site.

I had to pay 1/2 by money order and 1/2 via paypal but both payments were sent before recieveing neo bundle and in timelly manner.

He was happy i was happy and since ive done a few more deals with rarehero and am selling/sold a dc bundle on here and i hope to to stay and do buisness with more neo members in the future.

Whilst keeping a blemish free record and all thid diatribe so you know was just to point out not all noobs are shit.

P.S. i am very sorry this happend to you. As for nintendospy leave fuck your ign feedback as i said befor this isnt ign and quit giving us noobs a bad name you asshole.:very_ang:

bokmeow
01-09-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by nintendospy
thanks LS, and bokmeow, I don't remember contacting you.

I didn't think you would, since you DIDN'T REPLY to my emails.

Liquid Snake
01-09-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by joe_higashi19
Mike i think your right this nintendospy is deff a asshole lier and would have screwd you in the end but not all noobs are bad.

I did extensive research on the neo befor getting into a deal with dojosky and the more i read about the neo the more i wanted one so i bought a big package deal from him no feedback to my name except my gametz and ebay which in my opinion dont count since they arnt this site.

I had to pay 1/2 by money order and 1/2 via paypal but both payments were sent before recieveing neo bundle and in timelly manner.

He was happy i was happy and since ive done a few more deals with rarehero and am selling/sold a dc bundle on here and i hope to to stay and do buisness with more neo members in the future.

Whilst keeping a blemish free record and all thid diatribe so you know was just to point out not all noobs are shit.

P.S. i am very sorry this happend to you. As for nintendospy leave fuck your ign feedback as i said befor this isnt ign and quit giving us noobs a bad name you asshole.:very_ang:

WTF are you talking about?
Your post has nothing to do with this thread............:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Darklighterx
01-09-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Liquid Snake
WTF are you talking about?
Your post has nothing to do with this thread............:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
He's just saying that n00bs are not always bad, which we already know of course.

joe_higashi19
01-09-2004, 05:24 PM
:lol: what he said

sorry if i made you mad liquid snake.

nintendospy
01-09-2004, 07:31 PM
I have deals going on right now with Kiselgof and rimm_rs, I am not a bad person, this is crap.

evo7_31
01-09-2004, 08:21 PM
You're a spy from nintendo, that's bad enough!! :lol:

wolvie
01-09-2004, 11:47 PM
not that any of this is my biz but,
nintendo spy is useing a psuedo scam tactic by trying to be a victum,
im not saying that he is a scam, maybe things should have been handled differently.

like i have read before-just my opinion, i could be wrong.

broken
01-09-2004, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by wolvie
not that any of this is my biz but,
nintendo spy is useing a psuedo scam tactic by trying to be a victum,
im not saying that he is a scam, maybe things should have been handled differently.

like i have read before-just my opinion, i could be wrong.

Speaking from experience, are we?

Liquid Snake
01-10-2004, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by joe_higashi19
:lol: what he said

sorry if i made you mad liquid snake.

I hear you, my friend.
Sorry for the quick temper

joe_higashi19
01-10-2004, 03:32 PM
Eh..No harm done Snake..

AND

as Broken said..

You should know a scam when you see one arron um,,, i mean wolvie!:smirk:

xzibit190
01-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Mikes a great guy I bought my Candy Cab with him and wrote him a check and took the cab right then and there and he trusted me not to right him a hot check. I dont like how hes callin him an asshole in my post either


Originally posted by nintendospy
I never said B.I.GPSYCHE was a bad seller, he just sent me a cart that I had problems with. Mike on the other hand, simply put, is an asshole.I have many references here on neo-geo.com as well as other sites, but that's okay. Thanks anyway.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76999

thats just bullshit calling him an asshole for something that sounds like he just got mad cause he was giving mike the run around and mike said forget it and sold his product to someone else that wasnt giving him shit.