Puzzle Bobble 2 MVS cart
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you've made me very very happy dude! 
so there's still a chance it's a boot? 
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ResOGlas said:Don't stress it, bro. No one would bootleg a Puzzle Bobble 2 using official chips
It may still be a bootleg MVS game.......... I have owned Puzzle Bobble 2 and Bust A Move Agin several times and none of them have had Eproms.
I have also seen my fair share of bootleg games and there are many bootleg games with a mixture of original Toshiba or Sharp "C" Chips on the boards along with Eproms and/or Flash ROMS.
I just cracked open another Bust A Move Again cart I recenlty picked up after seeing this thread just to verify it was not a bootleg.
Take some pictures of your boards and post them if you can..... or email them to me and I'll post them for you.
- Anyone know if that bootleg fighters website is still up and running?
Robert Wallace said:It may still be a bootleg MVS game.......... I have owned Puzzle Bobble 2 and Bust A Move Agin several times and none of them have had Eproms.
I have also seen my fair share of bootleg games and there are many bootleg games with a mixture of original Toshiba or Sharp "C" Chips on the boards along with Eproms and/or Flash ROMS.
I just cracked open another Bust A Move Again cart I recenlty picked up after seeing this thread just to verify it was not a bootleg.
Take some pictures of your boards and post them if you can..... or email them to me and I'll post them for you.
- Anyone know if that bootleg fighters website is still up and running?
I know that there are many boots that have Toshiba or Sharp chips in them, but if they are indeed a boot, the NGH# on the Sharp/Toshiba chips won't match the NGH# of the game it's supposed to be. Easy example is the first boot I got swindled on. It's a Puzzle Bobble cart with eproms and Toshiba chips, but the NGH# on the Toshiba chips is for Art of Fighting 1.
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ResOGlas said:
Ok.......let me say it this way so you can understand.
I have personally owned and seen bootleg games with Toshiba Chips that did infact have the NGH# of the game.
The game I am talking about is a Metal Slug MVS game that I bought from Jessicasman7....aka....Jalphei.
There are other bootleg games that are the same way, not all of the C Chips were legit, there were mixtures of Eproms and original chips on both boards.
Yes there are original MVS games with Eproms but so this guy or anyone else is not confused.....just because you have a game with a few chips that do have the NGH # on them does not mean that the game is original.
Some people bootleg games and may include a few origial Toshiba Chips on the boards to fool the buyer into thinking......hey it has a few original chips on the boards so it must be legit.
The only way to tell if his game is legit or not is to see pictures of both boards....front and back.
Until then I would consider his game to be a bootleg. ***spelling edit***
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Robert Wallace said:Ok.......let me say it this way so you can understand.
I have personally owned and seen bootleg games with Toshiba Chips that did infact have the NGH# of the game.
The game I am talking about is a Metal Slug MVS game that I bought from Jessicasman7....aka....Jalphei.
There are other bootleg games that are the same way, not all of the C Chips were legit, there were mixtures of Eproms and original chips on both boards.
Yes there are original MVS games with Eproms but so this guy or anyone else is not confused.....just because you have a game with a few chips that do have the NGH # on them does not mean that the game is original.
Some people bootleg games and may include a few origial Toshiba Chips on the boards to fool the buyer into thinking......hey it has a few original chips on the boards so it must be legit.
The only way to tell if his game is legit or not is to see pictures of both boards....front and back.
Until then I would consider his game to be a boogleg.
I understand what you are saying completely, it's just that even you have to admit, that this is kind of odd. Original Toshiba chips mean that part of it is in fact the original game. This means that the bootlegger would have to sacrifice an official cart for, say, every 6 boots he makes. This scenereo isn't out of the question, but unheard of on my part. From what I understand, I though Japhei had his carts manufactured in Hong Kong? Back in the day when I got screwed by Caroles-Collectibles, the cart had a Hong Kong warranty sticker over one of the screw holes, so obviously Japhei hadn't opened it up. Once again, I'm not denying that you're right, just that it seems a little too troublesome on the bootlegger's part.
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Originally posted by ResoGlas:
I have a PBobble cart with the exact same chipset,and it is verified as "legit" by some of the most knowledgeable member on this board.
In fact,most arcade PCB's contain Eproms and they were all manufactured that way by their respective company.
I have a PBobble cart with the exact same chipset,and it is verified as "legit" by some of the most knowledgeable member on this board.
In fact,most arcade PCB's contain Eproms and they were all manufactured that way by their respective company.
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ResOGlas said:
Well I dont know or care where Jalphie gets his boots from..... there are many boots out there as I have described.
Why they do it is beyond me, too many scenario's to ponder, not really worth my time.....so this is all Im going to add to this post.
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one of the boards actualy has a EP1 and EP2 slot..... That's where the ep rom is on my kof 96.
from what I've gathered, if the game has ANY flash chips that match the ngh number it is a legit game.
reason being, a bootlegger would not be able to aquire those chips, and they wouldn't sacrifice an original just to fool buyers - back then, people didn't CARE.
so if it has the right number on at least some of the chips, I'd say its legit.
reason being, a bootlegger would not be able to aquire those chips, and they wouldn't sacrifice an original just to fool buyers - back then, people didn't CARE.
so if it has the right number on at least some of the chips, I'd say its legit.
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when it comes to boots, especialy ones that were released before people started collectiong MVS, most buyers (arcade operators) either didn't know that they were boots, nor did they care, as long as the coins kept dropping.
Now days it's all different tho, collectors drive a good part of the US coin op stuff... There is more money to be made on boots by fooling collectors.
Japhei makes a livingoff it, I hope SNKP throws his ass in prison.
Now days it's all different tho, collectors drive a good part of the US coin op stuff... There is more money to be made on boots by fooling collectors.
Japhei makes a livingoff it, I hope SNKP throws his ass in prison.