Component Out on NGH???

Galford Forever · Dec 14, 2003

I was thinking about this. We have the S-Video mod for the NGH, why can't we do component? Isn't component essentially the same as RGB? I think I had heard that once. So why hasn't a mod for this popped up? It would certainly seem much more useable than S-Video. Component is much more widespread a standard now than S-Video. Is it possible? And if so, sign me up.

norton9478 · Dec 14, 2003

componet isn't widespread at all in the USA... Ask a TV salesmen at best buy.... He won't know what your talking about.

Talen · Dec 14, 2003

It's more than possible. Why bother with a mod though? So much extra mess and it requires a new chip to be installed. Get a rgb -> component transcoder and use that for all your systems with rgb but no component out.

RVF400 · Dec 14, 2003

yeah but component is only on high end plasma tv's. thus it ain't worth it, its very easy to mod too, its essentaly rgb but with 3 phono plugs one for each colour.

kc · Dec 14, 2003

http://www.keene.co.uk/system/keene.htm

scart to componet

scart to s-video

Talen · Dec 14, 2003

RVF400 said:
yeah but component is only on high end plasma tv's. thus it ain't worth it, its very easy to mod too, its essentaly rgb but with 3 phono plugs one for each colour.

It's on almost every $250+ set here. And it isn't rgb. It's YCbCr, an encoded rgb signal, but yeah, the same idea.

Thanks, kc. I lost the URL for that, but that's exactly what I was thinking of.

RVF400 · Dec 14, 2003

wow really!, well for once you americans can have a decent picture!, the death of s-video!

norton9478 · Dec 14, 2003

I won't pay more than $150 for a tv set.

Yodd · Dec 14, 2003

RVF400 said:
yeah but component is only on high end plasma tv's. thus it ain't worth it, its very easy to mod too, its essentaly rgb but with 3 phono plugs one for each colour.

Incorrect. This lack of knowledge that is Component video (in the US) is typical. Though RGB is a form of Component video, in the US it certainly is NOT straight RGB.

Component video in the US can be found on many entry level tv's these days starting from 20 inch models and up. Although S-video (and of course the cheeze composite) is still far more common, each and every year component inputs are showing up on more and more tv's.

And Component is NOT the same as RGB.

I made a post about this a year ago (nearly to the day, too) in a S-video vs Component question here in Tech Support:

Component:
Seperates the video stream down to 3 channels.
A Luminance channel (da Black and White), a R-Y channel (Red minus luminance) and a B-Y channel (Blue minus luminance). Then these signals are decoded and the Green is calculated. Because RGB are the three primary colors we can take the luminance channel along with red, and blue, and then calculate what green is.

kc said:
http://www.keene.co.uk/system/keene.htm

I dunno about that. Since its a UK seller, and it doesn't mention if the output signal is NTSC or PAL, I would be hesitant to purchase it. Plus you would have to deal with a goofy Scart to 3 RCA jack cable versus using your own standard Component cables.

A better choice would be
THIS. It converts Scart RGB to the 3 RCA style Component jacks. Plus its less expensive. Dunno how the quality compares, though I am thinking of ordering one.

Yodd · Dec 14, 2003

kc said:
http://www.keene.co.uk/system/keene.htm

Those two are NOT the same units.

The bottom unit does stereo audio and I assume encoding to S-video and what appears to be composite.

The top unit is a Scart to Scart RGB to component device.

Talen · Dec 14, 2003

norton9478 said:
I won't pay more than $150 for a tv set.

That seems like a very odd comment for someone on a neo-geo board. :spock:

BarfHappy · Dec 14, 2003

That seems like a very odd comment for someone on a neo-geo board.

nope, he needs the money for carts ^^

RVF400 · Dec 14, 2003

so is component superior to rgb?, surely not, since a true rgb cable seperates through 21 pins, the component is only 3 seperate leads, any links to comparison images?

nubulous · Dec 14, 2003

RVF400 said:
so is component superior to rgb?, surely not, since a true rgb cable seperates through 21 pins, the component is only 3 seperate leads, any links to comparison images?

Nah, I think RGB is a ways ahead of component, especially for video games. However, I haven't seen RGB through a regular TV set, so I can't make a direct comparison.

norton9478 · Dec 14, 2003

what exactly is componet....??

I always thought it was rgb with the sync encoded into the R+G+B

RVF400 · Dec 14, 2003

you gotta check out my RGB im getting out of my MVS, its fucking incredible, im using a 24k gold 21 pin scart cable of real high quality straight to my t.v, its gotta be the best neo picture anyone has, just wanted to know if this component was any better, obviously not so im gonna keep my setup as it is

Yodd · Dec 14, 2003

RVF400 said:
so is component superior to rgb?, surely not, since a true rgb cable seperates through 21 pins, the component is only 3 seperate leads, any links to comparison images?

For stuff like the Neo, I would assume RGB is probably slightly better. But I would imagine it would be difficult to tell the two apart if they were compared.

Then again, since we don't have straight RGB here in the US on our TV's, I can't say for sure.

Reznor007 · Dec 14, 2003

A true arcade RGB is only 4 pins. Red, Green, Blue, and Sync. Any pins above that are for grounds or other signals.

I seriously doubt anyone could tell the difference between component and RGB.

Also, component is going to be more and more common on US TV's as it is the standard HDTV connection.

Edit-For what it's worth, the Gamecube video chip internally generates a component video signal, not RGB.

Galford Forever · Dec 14, 2003

Thanks for the informative replies guys. And I'd say that component video is pretty wide spread. A lot of the entry level TVs have it now. Unless you're looking for something below $300, chances are that it has component video on it nowadays.

I currently use an X-RGB2+, but I'd like to be able to hook up my Neo to a TV from time to time. That convertor looks nice, but $100 is $100. Maybe I'll eventually get something like that, but I'm not willing to shell out that kind of cash for that right at this moment.

Anyway, thanks guys

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norton9478 · Dec 14, 2003

Blehh... just another monkey wrench.......

Doesn't really matter, I won't blow big money into a tv anyhos until I can get one with VGA input for under $200 with a minimum screen size of 20"

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