a stunning realization

I was talking with a co-worker and complained about how someone accused me of being a neocon, and she asked me:

Do you like giving your money away away to the poor and unfortunate and too lazy to get off their asses?

No

Do you like more laws?

definitely not.

Do you like government micromanagement?

No.

And then she told me I was therefore a conservative.

Well, that is only conservative ideals. They do change, look at Arine. He had accept some Liberal ideals to get elected. When it comes down to it most people are just moderate.

You are a liberal for thinking that you are a conservative.

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... or is it?

"Shiiiiiit, I'm just a revolutionary waiting for a revolution."

MD20XX / Storm Rider

That sounds more like me.

I'm all for the law of the jungle being the only law.

MegaDrive 20XX said:

{NOTE: Sarcasm}
... or is it?

"Shiiiiiit, I'm just a revolutionary waiting for a revolution."

MD20XX / Storm Rider

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Just because you answered no to those ???s doesn't mean you are for the extreme opposite.

Not wanting to give money willy nilly to people who choose not to work is not really conservative- it's more smart and pragmatic.

Not wanting big government? Once again- doesn't automatically make you conservative.

More laws? More laws about WHAT?

From what I've read of your views over the years Charlie, I'd say you are fairly liberal.

I'm sort of liberal, sort of independant and sort of Orwellian science worshipper. But I swear I'm no conservative.

A revolutionary waiting for a revolution?

Haha, that's a good one.

...and what's your excuse for just sitting on your ass?

Takumaji said:

A revolutionary waiting for a revolution?

Haha, that's a good one.

...and what's your excuse for just sitting on your ass?

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I'll laugh to that. *The reason however, stems more frome the fac that the nation is so huge and the fever pitch/platform of several thousand ppl in one area is insignificant compared to the other million or more who still go about doing things as they normally would. Which is why a boycott of a product or services just doesn't work like it once did. Back when an entire community all were effected the same cause everyone worked for the Steel Mills or whatever... revolutionary change was possible. But today on one square block no three people do the same thing... thus you've got spread out ppl of link minded interest, but with one dude an Airline Pilot... another a Jaintor... another a Banker... another a Soldier etcetera.... it's too vast. Thus the settings for a Revolution (be it non violent or armed) are not there yet. There has to be enough of an out cry and ppl willing to do something en masse as one cognitive unit, then and only then is Revolution an option. If it were a smaller nation, and ppl were being killed unjustly or something, ala' Hussein's former regime... then ppl are more willing to take drastic measures.

Thus I'd better clearly define myself as a "Survivalist" first (be it Rural or Urban) and a "Revolutionary" second. *But with the way things are getting in certain circles, it could happen, and if it does I'll be there already prepared.

MD20XX / Storm Rider

MD, I don't really want to derail Charlie's stunning realization any further, but sorry, a revoluationary waiting for a revolution is a silly paradoxon, nothing more.

One can have revolutionary opinions, but most of these self-proclaimed revolutionists are just shallow word artists that want to break down the old system to build an ever uglier one while totin' the same status symbols of World, Inc. like any other careless, superficial consumer out there. It's all just blah.

Survivalist, Junglist, Revolutionary, etc..etc.. ...personally, I wouldn't want to be labelled as one of them because I simply don't believe in this kind of hedonistic symbolism that often is a mere disguise for some ppl's anti-social and careless way of life.

That is, in short, why I think that a waiting revolutionary should either go and start a damn revolution or crawl back under his stone.

Takumaji said:

That is, in short, why I think that a waiting revolutionary should either go and start a damn revolution or crawl back under his stone.

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Dully noted.

*Still I'm going to go on living with my beliefs, more or less living the same existence as any other person... but when the shit hits the fan (and it will in some regard or another) while everyone else is out looting and making fools of themselves... I'm going to be grinning from ear to ear and say: "Been waitin' all my life for this shit." A good point you've made however... Something for me to think about. *But old habbits die hard.

Thanks for the heads up!

MD20XX

Sounds like you're like most people in the cosmopolitan lifestyle -socially liberal/fiscally conservative.

EvilWasabi said:

That sounds more like me.

I'm all for the law of the jungle being the only law.

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Walking around in nothing but a thong.

Just call me Tarzan, and I'll call my mate Jane.

Oheeoheeoh!

If I beleive in harvesting criminals for their organs, does that make me neo-Chinese?

That PRC is so fucking cool.

The only true way to be conservative is to like Bill O'Riley and to always try to trump people by bitching about Bill Clinton.

neobuyer said:

If I beleive in harvesting criminals for their organs, does that make me neo-Chinese?

That PRC is so fucking cool.

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rotflol

bokmeow said:

Oheeoheeoh!

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I've always wondered how to spell that. Can't say it though.

It's funny that a thread should so recently pop, as I've actually discovered the exact same thin about myself (although through different means, i.e. I'm doing a course in contemporary political theory as part of my degree). Pretty funky shit cos all about totalitarian regimes tellin' people what to and when to do it, 'big brother' and all that shit (what can I say, I've no faith in the human species nad believe that order must forced upon humanity to acheive a half decent society, people mustn't be allowed to live their own lives or chaos will reign. Pretty contradictory veiw points considering that I'm a very chaotic person).

But I'm a nice guy really, I want people to be happy, I just dont they can reach such a state without the proper guidence.

I really hope a havn't come across as a nazi, cos believe me, thats physically impossible. Plus which, I love jews (and their big noses).

All those political questions always put me in the very very far left for some reason.

Having no organized government isnt that far fetched is it?

I side on the conservatives on several issues, but if the reason to back these issues boil down to 'The Bible says it's immoral' then I have serious issues with it. There's polygamy in the bible but He never seems to speak out against it. I'm all for the 'this is wrong, and we shall prove how it is wrong because we shall have a hearty debate to discuss the merits and demerits of said issue in terms of social mores and the survival of humanity.'

Subscribing to soundclips and some hot topic reforms boils down to lobbying the voters that have the most buying power and the people that aren't disenfranchised.

EvilWasabi said:

I was talking with a co-worker and complained about how someone accused me of being a neocon, and she asked me:

Do you like giving your money away away to the poor and unfortunate and too lazy to get off their asses?

No

Do you like more laws?

definitely not.

Do you like government micromanagement?

No.

And then she told me I was therefore a conservative.

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Like giving away money? No, think it is necessary? Yes

Like more laws? No, think more laws can be necessary? Yes

Fan of governmental micromanagement? No, think that is sometimes what is needed? Yes