U.S. Economy Grows at Fastest Pace Since 1984 - Q3 GDP up 7.2%, best in 19 years.

TriShield

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So much for the far left parroting the claim that the economy is terrible.

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Economy Grows at Fastest Pace Since 1984

By JEANNINE AVERSA
Oct 30, 8:54 AM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - The economy grew at a scorching 7.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter in the strongest pace in nearly two decades. Consumers spent with abandon and businesses ramped up investment, compelling new evidence of an economic resurgence.

The increase in gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy's performance, in the July-September quarter was more than double the 3.3 percent rate registered in the second quarter, the Commerce Department reported Thursday.

The 7.2 percent pace marked the best showing since the first quarter of 1984. It exceeded analysts' forecasts for a 6 percent growth rate for third-quarter GDP, which measures the value of all goods and services produced within the United States.

The economy's recovery from the 2001 recession has resembled the side of a jagged cliff; a quarter of strength often has been followed by a quarter of weakness. But analysts are saying that pattern could be broken, considering increasing signs the economy finally has shaken its lethargy and is perking up.

Near rock-bottom short-term interest rates, along with President Bush's third round of tax cuts, have helped the economy shift into a higher gear during the summer, economists say. The next challenge is making sure the rebound is self-sustaining, they say.

Democrats, however, argue that the tax cuts contributed to a record budget deficit in the recently ended 2003 fiscal year and have done little to spur significant job growth.

Although the nation's payrolls grew by 57,000 in September - the first increase in eight months - the economy needs to add a lot more jobs than that each month to drive down the 6.1 percent unemployment rate, analysts have said.

The administration has argued that as economic growth improves, meaningful job creation will follow. Bush will be counting on that as he heads into the 2004 presidential election season.

In other encouraging economic news from the Labor Department, new claims for unemployment benefits last week dropped by 5,000 to 386,000, a sign that layoffs are slowing. U.S. workers' wages and benefits went up by 1 percent in the third quarter, up slightly from a 0.9 percent increase in the previous quarter.

Amid signs that the recovery is regaining traction, the Federal Reserve on Tuesday decided to hold a key short-term interest rate at a 45-year low of 1 percent. Super-low short-term rates may give consumers and businesses an incentive to spend and invest more, boosting economic growth.

Economists believe the economy will grow at a slower - but still healthy - 4 percent rate in the final quarter.

In the third quarter, consumers ratcheted up their spending at a brisk 6.6 percent annual rate. That was the biggest increase since the first quarter of 1988 and was up from a 3.8 percent pace in the second quarter.

Consumers in the third quarter spent lavishly on big-ticket items, such as cars, boosting such spending by a whopping 26.9 percent rate. And, they also spent briskly on "nondurables" such as food and clothes, which grew at a 7.9 percent pace, the strongest showing since the first quarter of 1976.

While consumers have been the main force keeping the economy going, there are more signs that businesses are starting to do their part.

Especially encouraging was the 15.4 percent growth rate in spending by businesses on equipment and software in the third quarter. That marked the largest increase since the first quarter of 2000 and was up from a 8.3 percent growth rate in the second quarter.

Sustained turnarounds in capital spending and in hiring are crucial to the economy's return to full throttle. Economists said business wants profits to improve and wants to be sure of the recovery's vigor before it goes on a spending and hiring spree.

The red-hot housing market, powered by low mortgage rates, also contributed to the strong showing on third quarter GDP. Investment on residential projects grew at a 20.4 percent rate, the biggest increase since the second quarter of 1996, and more than three times the 6.6 percent growth rate seen in the second quarter.

Federal government spending, which grew at a 1.4 percent rate, was only a minor contributor to GDP in the third quarter. Spending on national defense was flat. But in the second quarter, military spending on the Iraq war - which grew at a whopping 45.8 percent rate - helped to catapult economic growth.

A better trade picture in the third quarter also contributed to GDP growth.

But inventory reduction by businesses continued to be a drag on the economy and reduced third-quarter GDP by 0.67 percentage point. And a continuing reluctance by businesses to build up stocks suggest that executives remain wary of the rebound's staying power.
 

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I agree, the economy isn't terrible but needs lots of help. Out of all of the "things arent that bad" rhetoric, this was probablly the most on point statement.

"Although the nation's payrolls grew by 57,000 in September - the first increase in eight months - the economy needs to add a lot more jobs than that each month to drive down the 6.1 percent unemployment rate, analysts have said."

These guys know how to make things sound better than they really are. I remember about two months ago a financial guru was on CNN proclaming that the economy was BOOMING because investments were up. Until the umemployment drops and there's more job creation, then I wouldnt personally use a term like BOOMING, thats a bit misleading, IMO...
 

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I want to see the unemployment % first.... I am glad to see growth but personally, I have alot of unemployed friends who are having a hard time finding a job....
 

CraigPilecky

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The economy has been pretty bad. The fact that its looking up at the moment doesn't change that. Also its still got a long way to improve. But yeah this is a good sign. Lefties want the economy to improve also. :)
 

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lol.
"so much for the left..."

Christ, people are so ready to start political wars, I don't understand it. What has your political party done for you?

It's almost as stupid and as much a waste of time as system wars; figure out a way to bring people closer together, not further apart.
 

aria

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Not Surprising:

The biggest spikes in the economy always happen during times of war: (Ex: The Great Depression skyrocketed into the boom of WWII.)

I'm not certain I agree 100% with this ascertation:
"Federal government spending, which grew at a 1.4 percent rate, was only a minor contributor to GDP in the third quarter. Spending on national defense was flat. But in the second quarter, military spending on the Iraq war - which grew at a whopping 45.8 percent rate - helped to catapult economic growth."


I think it's still making an impact. Now that the invasion has shifted into occupation, all those rebuilding companies (American companies like Halliburton... see the todays news for more) are now pouring money and resources (thanks to Uncle Sam) into rebuilding Iraq.
 

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growth is easy , when yur at the bottom.
my 401k is up 33%, cuz the market was shit for a few years.
 

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Bullshit lie!

I am a college grad still without proper employment, and I have MANY friends (read: you have to count them with more than one hand) who are also without college level employment.
 

jefmcc

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If the economy is doing so well, I don't see it. Who is it doing well for? Corporate big wigs, that's who.

Jobs continue to be sent overseas, IT jobs to India and manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China.

People are getting laid off left and right in the US. Did we already forget that Detroit laid off 80,000 a month ago?
 

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the roker said:
Bullshit lie!

I am a college grad still without proper employment, and I have MANY friends (read: you have to count them with more than one hand) who are also without college level employment.

Bleh. You also live in a shit town that's basically dead since GM started to pull out. The only places in flint that are hiring right now are health care jobs, which is ironic because since flint's economy went to shit, no one can really afford it anymore ;)

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Jobs suck balls in my neck of the woods... So I'd say it's time to break out dem guns!

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