Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign Countries

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/extra/P62115.asp

i ve read about this too in the paper about alot of jobs being
outsourced to India, mostly being IT jobs that others in those countries
would gladly work for half of what people get paid for them here.
i thought this was halfway relevant since USAA, a rather large
insurance company and one of the bigger businesses to have
its base here in texas is one of them, outsourcing call center jobs
and other jobs to mainly India.
i looked at some of the figures and they seemed pretty high for over the years.
especially for white collar jobs,
but it seems to be a trend for companies as many of them are
downsizing, and to be fair, havent resorted to these business
tactics yet but probably would given the savings of having to
pay their own workforce a fair market price here in the states
and for health care and all the trimmings of full time employment.

Dell is proof all by itself that this shit doesn't work.


Hmmm, USAA's doing this too?

*Looks for another insurance company*

Phoenix Down said:

Dell is proof all by itself that this shit doesn't work.

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Amen my fellow IT brother.

I've heard rumors, because of the many complaints the company I work for has lodged against Dell, that there are "big things" in the works to alleviate "all of the problems" their customers are having. They couldn't/wouldn't offer a time line, but I'm hoping it's damn quick.

I prefer emailing my requests to them now as I don't have to deal with the accents or the script reading they do. I just tell them what I've done to the system in an attempt to fix the issue, in anal detail, and a few hours later I receive an email "we're sending a part to the local rep." I don't have to deal with crazy accents, script reading or waiting on hold and still get shit repaired next day depending on when my email goes out.

So now not only can I not get a job in a factory to make enough money to get through college but I can also look foward to getting screwed after graduation. Fuck that shit.

Reality Check

Reality Check:

If you think it's going to change for the better, you're wrong.

This will continue to grow as there are more and more people getting college degrees in India that are willing to work for, oh, about 1/3 what you're making.

It's the problem with the educated 3rd world... Who knew? (I mean that seriously, no one really bothered to think what would happen when India, who's population will overtake China soon, started to turn out hundreds of thousands of college grads. Remember: that isn't a high percentage of Indians, but its still a really high number of cheap workers).

The thought is this: no one will complain when all big companies are doing it -and charging less because of it (hence, even complaining customers will go along. Since when do IT guys have any serious clout in the boardroom?). The businesses only look at the bottom line.

This has been going on for years. Almost all of your clothing is made my poor folks back east and soon your levi's will be made by the same poor people. Tommy Hillfiger and most anything you see at Dillards is made off-coast in Jamaica (Off shore, because the companies can side-step many regulations and employment rules that way).

I do enjoy toying with the strange accents on the other end of the phone line, often pulling out my thick southeren redneck white trash accent to tease them with.

Re: Reality Check

Bobak said:

The thought is this: no one will complain when all big companies are doing it -and charging less because of it (hence, even complaining customers will go along. Since when do IT guys have any serious clout in the boardroom?). The businesses only look at the bottom line.

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You got it.

In a capitalist society people ultimately don't care WHERE their stuff comes from as long as they can get it as cheaply as possible. Despite what the talking heads may tell everyone only a small majority really gives a damn if it was "made in the USA."

Sadly, I face the same thing with my current IT position. Although the outsourcing company they are working with typically does it in-house, in the States, it could go to India just as easy.

They are doing the reviews and cost calculations now along with other analysis, but the overall forecast is poor.

VIVA unemployment line!

Re: Reality Check

Bobak said:

Reality Check:

If you think it's going to change for the better, you're wrong.

This will continue to grow as there are more and more people getting college degrees in India that are willing to work for, oh, about 1/3 what you're making.

It's the problem with the educated 3rd world... Who knew? (I mean that seriously, no one really bothered to think what would happen when India, who's population will overtake China soon, started to turn out hundreds of thousands of college grads. Remember: that isn't a high percentage of Indians, but its still a really high number of cheap workers).

The thought is this: no one will complain when all big companies are doing it -and charging less because of it (hence, even complaining customers will go along. Since when do IT guys have any serious clout in the boardroom?). The businesses only look at the bottom line.

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Actually yes and no. This problem will grow but only until consumers start complaining and requiring higher quality service from these companies. It does not matter what you save by moving these jobs to a place with "cheap workes" if your customers fire you for poor quality/service.