LEGIT SvC MVS Cart?

Kid Aphex · Sep 29, 2003

I try to keep up with all the threads, but sometime a single post has all the information I'm looking for.

So, has there been ANY Discussion or reason to believe that there's going to be [or not going to be] a legit SvC MVS Cart?

Chime in, and thanks.

Decepticon · Sep 29, 2003

My reason for believing is the fact that it was released as a JAMMA PCB was to deter bootlegging however there are now boots and once the homecart comes out there will be more people making them so going through the trouble to produce more of the all in ones will be a bit pointless.

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

After talking with a few people, and getting their points of views, I've come to the conclusion that there won't be any MVS carts of SvC. Why? Because MVS carts are made with arcade operators in mind, that's it. Not the 0.0002% of people who have arcade setups in their house, or consolized MVS units. They've already given the product to the Arcade distributors, and coming out with an MVS months later seems kind of pointless from this viewpoint. After all, if you wanted the game you got the Jamma, there aren't many people that held out simply because it's not MVS. Arcade operators have plenty of cabs to put this in, so it's not a big deal.

The people with MVS setups in their home are basically fucked, because they're already releasing the "home" version for the people who want to play it at home. Sucks, I know

I had to think long and hard about all of this before I decided to get the MVS boot, because I sure as hell didn't want to get a boot of a product that would've came out a little later officially.

Amano Jacu · Sep 29, 2003

I was agreeing with all your post (yes, I don't think there will be an official MVS cart) til I read this:

SonGohan said:
I had to think long and hard about all of this before I decided to get the MVS boot, because I sure as hell didn't want to get a boot of a product that would've came out a little later officially.

Yet again, I'm being repetitive, but.... :rolleyes:

Sorry, there IS an official MVS release of this game, just as the "inconvenient" JAMMA board. And since it is not convenient for the 0.0002% of people, you are legitimated (after thinking hard and long) to rip the company and buy a fucking boot? :shame:

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

Amano Jacu said:
Sorry, there IS an official MVS release of this game, just as the "inconvenient" JAMMA board.

Sorry, to me MVS means multi video system, which seperated itself from regular jamma style games. I have a 2slot MVS, wherein I cannot play this particular MVS title.

Amano Jacu said:
And since it is not convenient for the 0.0002% of people, you are legitimated (after thinking hard and long) to rip the company and buy a fucking boot?

First of all, this thread isn't about me buying a boot, it's about why there isn't a legitimate MVS release. Honestly, I could really care less what anybody thinks about me having a boot. If SNKP came out with an MVS version, I would've bought it, simple as that. Also, I didn't buy the boot, I traded for it. I'll do whatever I want, and nobody is going to tell me any different, no matter how wrong they think I am. I'm not here to win any points with people who already hate the new SNK, bash new releases, and drone on about how it's "lost it's magic", then want to turn around and shit on other people who play roms/boots.

evil wasabi · Sep 29, 2003

Personally I think the boot is currently way too expensive (over $200), I'll wait for prices to drop... Then buy either the AES version or the bootleg MVS, depends on prices.

Metal Fatigue · Sep 29, 2003

Wow, I think people need to get over this shit already. Official MVS, ok well MVS to 99.99999% of other people is a cart, everyone who owns a MVS motherboard expects carts its that simple. This plugs into jamma this DOES NOT plug into the motherboard. So I personally think people should just accept this is a different and special situation. The board sucks, if SS5 is really on a cart then it proves it. Pirating slowed down? probably but that doenst necessarily mean there were better sales, they maybe didnt sell as much because of the board since many ops MAY have preferred carts? who knows, either way if the board did so well why would carts come back? I think that will be the answer or damn close to it.

Decepticon · Sep 29, 2003

I agree with SonGohan, it might run on the same MVS hardware but it is not MVS nomatter how you look at it.

MVS was the convience of swapping out carts, not motherboards. True it might take just a few seconds longer but that was the whole point to it in the first place.

If SNK decided way back when to release games as JAMMA boards and not carts I really doubt most of us would be around here today.

Thats what made them popular and that what made them money, sure they dont have to do it for us home users that make up a fraction of their userbase but they should do it for the rest of the people as well.

Again convience is what the MVS was pretty much all about.

Rot · Sep 29, 2003

This topic has been done to death man... I would love to buy a lovely MVS kit for my collection but it aint looking good...

I'll prob have to buy the AES sometime in the near future...

However, I've read all the arguments at the mo and it seems to me that the people who want to buy a boot will buy one no matter what anyone says....

And the people who won't well... they'll get the AES or the Jamma version...

PERSONALLY, I think ... buying/trading a boot sucks!!! I never have knowingly and I never will... I just wish those people who've brought a boot... or will would just STFU! :angry:

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

rotphungte said:
I just wish those people who've brought a boot... or will would just STFU!

Why? It's not like we're selling them. Does it really anger you that much that people talk about owning boots? Even so, many of the people who own this boot (such as myself) only own it because it's not available on traditional MVS format, and this is the only boot that we own.

Either way, I'm positive Kid A. didn't want the thread to degrade into the pile of crap it is now, especially getting sidetracked on something that doesn't even pertain to the original question at hand. Funny how the people who hate the boots are the ones who're so quick to want to talk about them, and then want everybody else to 'stfu'.

Rot · Sep 29, 2003

SonGohan said:
Why? It's not like we're selling them. Does it really anger you that much that people talk about owning boots? Even so, many of the people who own this boot (such as myself) only own it because it's not available on traditional MVS format, and this is the only boot that we own.

Either way, I'm positive Kid A. didn't want the thread to degrade into the pile of crap it is now, especially getting sidetracked on something that doesn't even pertain to the original question at hand. Funny how the people who hate the boots are the ones who're so quick to want to talk about them, and then want everybody else to 'stfu'.

It's not that Songohan man! I usually never put my nose into anything like this...

It's just that if you wanted to buy/trade a boot then man... it's upto you. I aint fussed about what you personally do man... it's a free world my friend.

It's just when you start saying stuff like you don't care about owning a boot and stuff... then that makes me a bit miffed... like prob a lot of people here...

The REASONS maybe valid why there isn't a MVS release, and yes I agree that I think it was a poor decision not too release this game as an MVS cart.

BUT WHATEVER the reasons man... I think it would've been best for one and all just to state the reasons and not say that you got the boot when you know that it's really sorta flame bait...

I mean... you could've just given the reasons Songohan matey and left it at that...

Just my 4 cents...

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

I'm a bit 'miffed' that this thread has become what it currently is because of my last sentence in a decent sized post. People will own boots, people will play roms, people will download mp3s. It really is pointless to argue/debate/fight about it.

Rot · Sep 29, 2003

SonGohan said:
I'm a bit 'miffed' that this thread has become what it currently is because of my last sentence in a decent sized post. People will own boots, people will play roms, people will download mp3s. It really is pointless to argue/debate/fight about it.

Yeah... I agree with you there matey!!

On all counts... I feel that there's a market out there for this stuff and there always will be. No point whingeing too much...

Well, Laters Songohan matey!! You get good at it man... and I'll let you whoop my sorry ass when your ever in Manchester UK...

However, I'd own you at the Slugs man... :tickled:

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

Who knows, I may be around that area some day with all the traveling my wife's job does. There's only one way to settle this - and that's a match between Kim and Mars People

Rot · Sep 29, 2003

SonGohan said:
Who knows, I may be around that area some day with all the traveling my wife's job does. There's only one way to settle this - and that's a match between Kim and Mars People

Mmmmmmhhhh! Ok...

Look me up if you're ever here in the UK...

Manchester is getting to be a cool city... I'll show you around so you don't look like TOO much of a tourist :tickled:

Amano Jacu · Sep 29, 2003

SonGohan said:
I'm a bit 'miffed' that this thread has become what it currently is because of my last sentence in a decent sized post. People will own boots, people will play roms, people will download mp3s. It really is pointless to argue/debate/fight about it.

Sorry, I don't agree with that, I don't see this discussion as "pointless". Whenever somebody says he's got the boot or is trying to justify it or whatever, I will expose my reasons for thinking this is not right, in an effort to let people know about this and think it before doing the same.

I know most of my words will be in vain and I will get flamed, but I'm used to it.

I agree with rotphungte, it was you who brought the topic yet again, with that sentence. I won't tell you to just STFU, that's up to you to say it or not, but then don't start with "this shouldn't be discussed here".

I'm not going to discuss again about what is is "MVS" and what it is not, or just how lazy is not to swap a board instead of a cart, etc. Been here, done that.

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

Amano Jacu said:
Sorry, I don't agree with that, I don't see this discussion as "pointless". Whenever somebody says he's got the boot or is trying to justify it or whatever, I will expose my reasons for thinking this is not right, in an effort to let people know about this and think it before doing the same.

Why do you think people care? Do you actually think you are going to enlighten people? You're just wasting your time with what people have already made their minds up about.

Amano Jacu said:
I agree with rotphungte, it was you who brought the topic yet again, with that sentence. I won't tell you to just STFU, that's up to you to say it or not, but then don't start with "this shouldn't be discussed here".

Get real, my whole post was the reasoning behind why there won't be an MVS cart, with a little side comment (one sentence) about my boot. Leave to to everybody else to concentrate on that one sentence to let the drama explode. My post wasn't about "hey, I got a boot, look at me!", so don't turn it into one.

Amano Jacu said:
I'm not going to discuss again about what is is "MVS" and what it is not, or just how lazy is not to swap a board instead of a cart, etc. Been here, done that.

Then why are you even saying anything in the first place? Really, your posts in this thread are redundant. Everybody knows what you think, and nobody asked for your opinion on something that wasn't even the target for discussion (ie: my post was about why there isn't an MVS cart, not about my boot). I didn't offer to sell, trade, or give it away. Nor did I speak about how the game played, what options where in it, what I traded for it, or anything else of the nature, so what's your problem? The fact that I own the boot, or the fact that I have a reason why I own the boot? Either way, if you have something to say about the thread topic, then say it, but don't throw the topic off track with your self-righteous ramblings of something everybody else already knows.

Amano Jacu · Sep 29, 2003

Sorry buddy, this is a public board, this forum is called "General Discussion", and I will talk of whatever I want. If you don't like my posts, don't read them, don't quote them, don't discuss them, etc.
Let's settle this like it is.

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

Sorry, I can just use your argument against you and tell you how worthless your posts are, because it's general discussion.

Kid Aphex · Sep 29, 2003

The reason I created this thread was basically as an "update"

I know all of your opinions on whether or not you THINK its coming out on MVS cart format...this thread was basically to gather information from a select few who possibly knew more, SOLID information as to whether or not it was going to happen. Basically, as a summary for those who don't have the time to wade through this collective.

Hell, I read almost every post on these boards...and even I was in the gray area on this subject.

...

In other news, I have to agree with Wes here. Amano, this is the fourth of fifth thread I've seen you derail just for the sake or arguing. It's tiring for the community. Why come into the thread and start preaching the what-nots of MVS format? Nobody cares.

Your argument, "this is general discussion, I can say whatever I want" is not valid. Either you're an ignorant prick who just wants to derail threads an act like an asshole....or you're too stupid to understand the concept EVERY person who participates in a forum should know: stay on topic.

Please, anyone else who may have any information on an MVS cart drop some knowledge.

Fygee · Sep 29, 2003

Whether or not they're making the MVS cart, I wish they'd just come out and say whether or not they will be, so all this speculation will stop.

Personally I don't see why they couldn't produce a couple hundred MVS cart kits. They've made most of the money they're going to make on the JAMMAs, and now they could make a little more from the hobbyists and arcade operators that are holding out because of the JAMMA format. Preventing bootlegs is no longer an excuse to keep making JAMMAs, since bootlegs are already out.

Amano Jacu · Sep 29, 2003

OK, I say I don't want to discuss anymore and then you both take the opportunity to flame me even more. Who is derailing now? I know I'm falling in the provocation. I wouldn't have even bothered posting here if it hadn't been for the original "unfortunate" sentence by Wes. Whenever somebody says that he is got the boot, I will make a small comment. Ignore it if you want.
I know I preach in the desert and people will do whatever they want, but I'm just expressing my opinion.

Come to chat later if you want to continue talking.

Yodd · Sep 29, 2003

Where is Spinmaster X with a little "Everyone likes cock.." comment?

I have mixed feelings on the MVS boot. But that doesn't really matter. In the end I think Mugenmore™ cut their own throats on this one. They could have released the MVS cart already and cutoff the boot sellers that are only selling to people who don't want the Jamma board. These aren't people that want a cheap cart to stick in a cab and to try and turn a profit. They just want to be able to play this game at home on their home MVS setups.

If you look at the going price of the boot MVS cart (around $200?) and then the going price of the Jamma board (around $300ish?), there really isn't a whole hell lot of savings going on. With the cost reduction of going to just cart from the entire Jamma board, I imagine they could easily be selling legit MVS kits of SVC for around $200 or $250.

But, no, the powers that be decided to screw the rest of the community. Its not like making it an entire board really stopped pirating or even slowed it down that much. Sure, delayed it a bit.

Makes you wonder how many more legit SVC's would have been sold if it was in an actual MVS cart form?

the binary c0de · Sep 29, 2003

anyone know where I can get some roms?

SonGohan · Sep 29, 2003

the binary c0de said:
anyone know where I can get some roms?

I'll sell you some, but let's make sure it's okay with Amano first.

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