Discussion [article]: Signs show U.S. underestimated Iraq war

aria

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The reporter, a 13 year AP Military Correspondent, gives an interesting take on what's going on right now.

It's facinating to note, as the article points out, that the things that the US did prepare for (ethnic violence, oil fires, refugee camps) didn't happen. But a bunch of things they didn't expect (looting, insurgencies, not being adored by the population) did.

Personally, I think the Pentagon decided to take a gamble on what was more of a "best case" scenario and got a little burned. With that said, it should be noted that it was the Iraqi exile community (with its own personal ax to grind) that did heavy work to convince the Pentagon that "oh, the people of Iraq will love you when you liberate them from Saddam." Hmm... Sounds like someone was taken for a ride by a slick salesman.

Read the article and tell us what you think.

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Signs Show U.S. Underestimated Iraq War
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON - Wear and tear on tanks in Iraq is outpacing the Army's efforts to repair and resupply. The administration is scrambling to find thousands more troops by early next year. Stressed American soldiers are suddenly being given two-week vacations.

Five months into the American occupation of Iraq, there are growing signs that the Bush administration vastly underestimated what it would take to stabilize the country after Baghdad fell in early April.

Pentagon planners had not expected that such a large U.S. force, now totaling 130,000 troops, would be required for such a long period — more than a year it now appears, rather than weeks.

They won't acknowledge the miscalculation publicly, but recent developments make them obvious:

- Wear on tank treads and vehicle tires that has far outpaced the Army's ability to resupply them. Treads that normally are replaced once a year are wearing out in two months. Asked whether war planners had anticipated such heavy work for U.S. ground troops this long after the war, Gen. Paul Kern, the Army's materiel chief, said, "Some did, some didn't."


- The decision to require 12-month tours for all troops in Iraq, including reservists. When the 3rd Infantry Division and the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force conquered Baghdad in early April, those troops thought the war was over and they would be headed home in a matter of weeks. Instead they stayed for months, and their replacements will serve even longer.

- The disclosure this week by senior military commanders that they may have to take the politically sensitive step of calling up thousands more reservists for Iraq duty than was planned just weeks ago. A troop rotation plan announced in July included mobilization of two National Guard brigades. But that plan is being re-evaluated in light of continuing attacks on American forces and slow progress in getting other countries to contribute troops.

- The Pentagon's decision to begin granting troops a vacation break, leaves that began this week and are expected to increase in number.

"They planned to pull the troops out quickly," said Anthony Cordesman, a defense expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. That plan was based on what Cordesman called an illogical assumption that U.S. forces would be greeted almost universally as liberators, that political control could be handed over to Iraqis quickly and that there would be no insurgency.

"We never really had a nation-building plan," Cordesman said.

Pentagon planners did foresee some postwar difficulties. They were prepared, for example, to deal with a refugee problem, with acute hunger, with a torching of oil fields or with an explosion of ethnic violence — none of which happened.

What they did not fully foresee was the violence aimed at U.S. occupation troops and the other security problems that have hampered the reconstruction efforts and angered many Iraqis.

An early indication that the administration did not foresee a long and violent postwar period was a statement made by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Feb. 27, shortly before the war began.

"It's not logical to me," he told reporters, to think it would take as many troops to keep the peace as it would to win the war. The implication was that once Baghdad fell, U.S. forces could begin to draw down as Iraqis took over more of the security duties around the country.

It remains the plan to transfer security and other responsibilities to the Iraqis. But the looting and lawlessness that descended upon parts of Iraq immediately after Saddam Hussein fell — followed by increasingly sophisticated and deadly ambushes of U.S. troops — have prevented any substantial decrease in the number of American troops on the ground.

Some say it may have been beyond the Pentagon's capacity to anticipate these problems.

"Military operations, in my experience, rarely turn out exactly as you envisioned them, without having to make adjustments," said Steve Abbot, a retired four-star Navy admiral who was deputy commander of U.S. European Command when it ran the air war over Kosovo in 1999. "Clearly there have been major adjustments."
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EDITOR'S NOTE — Robert Burns has covered military affairs for The Associated Press since 1990.
 

Tehcno

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It's really too bad that it did have to happen like this too. I know too many people who are over there and too many people that have been over there as well. Hell, after my brother got married before he could hardly say "I Do" they deployed his wife over there. He has been married for about 6 month and only been with his wife for about 3 days.
 

gt6plus

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more proof that Bush and his entourage are a bunch of morons....
 

dullbuoy

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this is constantly being discussed on the new Bill Maher show on HBO. i watched the one with Wesley Clark as the guest and Clark basically said our government/military went to war without a post-war plan as if we would go there, liberate, the iraqi people will embrace us, and then we just leave and everythings fine and dandy....which isnt the case.
 

CraigPilecky

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This doesn't surprise me at all. Its to bad that this administaration values our soldiers so little as to put them in harms way without fully understanding the situation. Its even more disturbing that they did so based on false and missleading information. And even more troubleing that it seems they deliberately missled the public at large, or where themselves willingly missled.

I never anticipated the US being greated as liberators. I was against this war from the begining, but whenever people like me would speak out in the media they where shouted down, while their patriotism was called into question.

The thing is what do we do now? Its to late to just leave, and what were doing now isnt' working either. Getting hte UN into this is the best thing we can do. God what a mess :oh_no:
 

orochi_lubu

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damn. he's running this nation to the ground and ruin this great nation. one they have the home field vantage. two they have guerria (sp) warfare like tatics. three they have most of the world's oil. the ones that are suffering is are troops and are economy. i just heard recently that another company has to pink slip an x amount of workers. this bs has to stop. im sorry i usually avoid politics but i was never for bush in the first place and had a feeling this would happen. i apologize if i offended anyone with what i had to say. but geez this is just stupid. and to top it off that that jackass bin laden and his butt buddy saddam are just getting a kick out of all this. since when has are great nation become a joke to everyone else?:mad_2:
 

dullbuoy

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CraigPilecky said:
Getting hte UN into this is the best thing we can do. God what a mess :oh_no:

too bad we're not gonna get immediate help from the UN, since we told them they're doing a bad job of searching for WMD, went to war without their approval, and then we can't find the WMD's either.
 

aria

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dullbuoy said:
too bad we're not gonna get immediate help from the UN, since we told them they're doing a bad job of searching for WMD, went to war without their approval, and then we can't find the WMD's either.

It's because those godless commie UN bastards hid them. If they played fair we'd find them! USA! USA! USA! USA!
 
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